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Post by Ianamus on Feb 4, 2017 18:54:45 GMT
Yeah, while I liked Dorians personality I found his backstory and personal quest to be very poor. Dragon Age was supposed to be a setting where same sex couples were generally accepted, women had more political and military power than in real life and so on. I was excited about finally getting gay companions, but then Dorians entire story revolved around how his family didn't like the fact he was gay- just like 99% of stories featuring gay men in mainstream media. I really admire Gaider as a writer, but it felt like Dorian was a way of vetting some of his own personal issues rather than writing something new and unique that fir the setting. What makes it worse is that the reason given was something like "I wanted LGBT people to feel that their struggles are represented". Not all of us grew up in conservative families or communities. When I told my parents I was bi they were completely fine with it- hell, my dad was head of the diversity and inclusion group at his workplace. Stories like Dorians don't represent me or my experiences at all. It's particularly annoying since bi and lesbian female characters don't seem to be shoehorned into these stories as often. Sera's personal quest and backstory was completely unrelated to her sexuality, as was Samantha's.
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 4, 2017 17:06:55 GMT
I think it's not an ideal solution for asexuals, but best what Bioware can do for them is to make the sex scenes optional (like Dorian) or to create some characters who have no sex scene (like Josephine, where it remained ambigous). You can't pander to every small group. I think it's better to have some companions who easily engage in sex and others who need to build up a relationship at first...this doesn't need the label demisexual though. I think the developers should stick with the three sexualities (homosexual, bi, straight) or make the characters playersexual... all other orientations can't and shouldn't be adressed directly in "each game", because it'd become too confusing and stretching then. As I said, you can make some characters ambigous like Josephine or the sex scenes optional, or you create some characters who want to build up a relationship at first before they engage in sex...it's not that difficult and doesn't need a label. Real asexuality works good with the Salarian, but I think there aren't enough resources to give us an asexual/demisexual/transsexual companion in each game. Not that I wouldn't want them to be included, but as I said: there have to be limitations resource wise. You can't make everyone happy. Because the list of sexualities gets longer and longer, and some day you'll have 100 different sexuality types. Personally I feel that when you go as far as specifically-labelled demisexual LI's you are stretching it really thin. I mean, ultimately everybodys sexual identity is unique, and we could all argue that we haven't been 'represented' in-game if we really pick apart how our individual approaches to sexuality and relationships work. The honest truth is that even the vast majority of asexual players simply wouldn't be interested in pursuing a romance in-game in the first place, so an LI catered for asexual players would be appealing to a minority of a minority. They should definitely have romances where sex scenes are optional or ambiguous, but I don't want a bucket list of every identity under the sun being checked off every game.
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 4, 2017 2:19:25 GMT
I don't think it's quite as bad as you're making out. Fenris and Anders both have clearly defined goals and opinions outside of romance, and their own agendas. Zevran was also very unconventional. And that's not getting into all of the great male characters who weren't romances: Loghain, Saren, Wrex, Varric... I think that's the point being argued here. Most of the great male characters aren't romanceable. I would have given up my left kidney to be able to romance Varric. Fenris made up for it, but man. For whatever reason, the romanceable males haven't had as much umph overall as the romanceable females. At least, that's my takeaway from this discussion. It only seems to be a problem with the Mass Effect franchise, Dragon Age and SWTOR are pretty much equal in this regard IMO.
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 4, 2017 1:56:59 GMT
From my friends, straight or gay, the main complaint I heard about Kaidan was he was boring. Their opinion, mind you.But yeah, I'm a fan of player sexual characters for best representation, but if not, then at least 'standard' or common Straight, gay or bi options. Shep should have been able to manmambo, gane one, for such players. That said... does make an interesting romance arc, from ME1 to 3 with Kai. Not saying GOOD, but a slow build can be sweet. That's the next problem with Bioware characters... Compared to their female counterparts, male romanceable characters always tend to be less extravert and more dependend on the protagonist. Female characters often have their own agenda and they achieve a lot of progress during the game, for example Liara who became shadow broker. Morrigan and Miranda are very independend and strong compared to Kaidan or Jacob. (And Kaidan was even better than Jacob. Jacob was the worst character ever). In SWTOR all romanceable jedi companions have been female. A Coincidence? I don't think so. But at least the Dragon Age team seems to improve. We finally saw it's possible to create a strong, independent male character with his own agenda (Solas). I hope we see more strong male characters in future Bioware games. I don't think it's quite as bad as you're making out. Fenris and Anders both have clearly defined goals and opinions, and their own agendas that they achieve progress on. Zevran was also fairly unconventional. And that's not getting into all of the great male characters who weren't romances: Loghain, Saren, Wrex, Varric...
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 4, 2017 1:42:45 GMT
I've never understood the view that gorier and more sexual always means better, or that something is better just because it's rated higher.
Especially in 3D animation, where those things always look terrible anyway.
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 3, 2017 13:38:58 GMT
This month has to make up for all the years we've been in the dark. Pssh, I know it won't, but don't tell me! For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure next month will
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 3, 2017 0:00:46 GMT
Peebee is growing on me somewhat. The more they reveal about her, the more I realize that she doesn't exhibit the traits that turned me off the other Asari squadmates, aside from the whole "blue space babe" trope.
I appreciated Sera for just how different she felt from everyone else. And for feeling somewhat like a real person. Real people can be prejudiced, and have weird ways of saying things and be inconsiderate. Even if my relationship with her was rocky at times I feel like she ultimately added to the game.
I trust that Peebee will be her own character, though. And I'm interested in seeing what they do with her.
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 2, 2017 23:28:36 GMT
Yes, it is. How is it any different to saying "Why would Columbia want to try to find new land across the sea when there are still so many unexplored parts of Europe/Asia/Africa"? Scale is incredibly important when it comes to exploration. What is more impressive, discovering a previously unknown America-sized landmass or an island a few meters across? Whether it's inculting or not doesn't change the fact that, for most people, grand explorations in far off places are more enticing and exciting than discovering a new plant in their back garden. Columbus wasn't trying to find new land though. He was trying to find a new way to India, which is in Asia. So he was looking for unexplored parts of Asia. There just happened to be an American-sized continent in the way. Which proves my point. Despite exploring a place others were exploring, he made one of the biggest discoveries in history(or at least the first to be credited for it). That applies to the exploring of the Milky Way as well. There can be an equally big discovery in the unexplored parts of the Milky Way. After all, look at all that was discovered in less than 1% of it. So all those famous explorers and pioneers who made smaller discoveries were just wasting their time, huh? That's what I'm getting from you. As I said, that is an incredibly insulting and repugnant attitude. Now you are the one who is using poor analogies. So discovering a new civilization in Andromeda is a huge thing, but discovering one in the Milky Way is the same as discovering a new plant in the back garden? I only used Columbus as my example because he is the person you brought up. We primarily learn about English and modern history at school here, so I admit to knowing next to nothing about him. There are plenty of examples of explorers prioritizing far-off places over exploring known continents and countries, though. Of course I don't think they were wasting their time- I'm just pointing out that, for most people, bigger is better and the more difficult something is the more exciting and interesting it is. That's an observation, not a personal opinion. The plant thing was just an extreme example to highlight my point that scale does matter in exploration. Obviously I wouldn't consider discovering a new species in the Milky way to have significantly less value than one in Andromeda. As someone else pointed out, an often overlooked factor is that the Council actively discourages exploration, with a complete ban on activating new Mass Relays, and the politics of the Milky Way obstruct any exploration on the level of the Andromeda Initiative in the Milky Way. Remember the Asari who suggested constructing new Mass Relays and was made a public joke? It's no surprise people like her would flock to the Andromeda initiative.
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 2, 2017 23:03:02 GMT
That's a poor analogy, as that voyage was far more similar to the Andromeda initiative in principle than exploring the rest of the Milky Way. It's simple human nature to want to push boundaries. I prefer holidays abroad because they feel more fresh and exciting, even though there are countless places I've never visited in the UK. No, it isn't. The Andromeda Initiative equivalent would be Columbus going to the Moon or Mars, exploring a whole new world rather than exploring an unexplored part of the one we are currently on. The only difference is replace world with galaxy. Just because something is smaller in scale doesn't make it any less remarkable or have less of a pioneering or adventurous spirit. To state that is does is quite frankly insulting to so many pioneers and adventurers. Yes, it is. How is it any different to saying "Why would Columbus want to try to find new land across the sea when there are still so many unexplored parts of Europe"? Scale is incredibly important when it comes to exploration. What is more impressive, discovering a previously unknown Australia-sized landmass or discovering an island a few meters across? Whether it's insulting or not doesn't change the fact that, for most people, grand explorations in far off places are more enticing and exciting than discovering a new plant in their back garden.
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 2, 2017 22:42:21 GMT
I've never bought that argument. It ignores the whole point behind the pioneering spirit. There is nothing pioneering or adventurous about exploring another part of the Milky Way. People are exploring new parts of the Milky Way every day. Mount an expedition to search another system and expand your knowledge of the MW from 1% to 1.000001% and you're not going to be getting any fanfares or even the slightest nod that you've done anything remarkable. Mount an expedition to make you the first MW resident ever to set foot in another Galaxy and that is a meaningful and exciting thing to do. By that logic, there was nothing pioneering or adventurous about Christopher Columbus' voyage since people were exploring new parts of the Atlantic Ocean every day. And yeah, he never got any fanfare or nods for his journey where nothing remarkable happened. That's a poor analogy, as that voyage was far more similar to the Andromeda initiative in principle than exploring the rest of the Milky Way. It's simple human nature to want to push boundaries as much as possible. I always prefer holidays abroad because they feel more fresh and exciting, even though there are countless places I've never visited in the UK.
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 1, 2017 22:29:05 GMT
I didn't realize there were private convo's, I'm only talking about what I read here on the forums. If they spoke about it privately and both had legitimate and differing leaked information then I'm sorry for assuming otherwise. It's difficult to know what's happening when some of this stuff is being talked about behind closed doors and some isn't. What happened was I had doubts about the guy (but wanted to believe him) so I messaged dave. He repeated what he knew, and then I messaged the other guy and told him our concern (I ended up trusting both). Both he and dave talked and confirmed what they both saw was the same. After that we all haven't talked. That's why I keep repeating it's all speculation. Don't want to get hopes up, but at the same time it's exciting what could actually be seen in less than 50 days now. I see. Thank you for clarifying.
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 1, 2017 22:23:32 GMT
Honestly they all blend together for me. I thought I was referencing Machiavelli's leak but apparently not. What happened is both guys might have heard from the same or a similar source and after they talked it seems they were both correct about what they saw, while one saw more than the other. That's why it's all speculation. Anything could have changed during development time and one of their sources could have made a mistake or was not a real source. I believe them when they said they trusted their sources. That's about it. Do you have link to that? I'm not trying to rain on anyone parade or be facetious, but from what I remember the whole thing looked like nothing more than a big misunderstanding. You want my private convos? I didn't realize that these private convo's existed, I assumed this was all here on the public threads. If they spoke about it privately and both had legitimate and differing leaked information then I'm sorry for assuming otherwise. It's difficult to keep track of what's happening when some of this stuff is being talked about behind closed doors and some isn't.
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 1, 2017 22:20:58 GMT
That "leak" was 90% some random guy misunderstanding Daveliams legitimate leak and 10% said random guy making stuff up on the spot. I do believe Jaal is a bi LI, but as far as I'm concerned there is no leak. Honestly they all blend together for me. I thought I was referencing Daveliam's leak but apparently not. All Daveliams leak showed us was that Peebee is a bi love interest and there is a male human dark-skinned LI for Scott who isn't Liam. There was nothing about Jaal. That seemed to be conjecture on the part of someone who read Daveliams leak.
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 1, 2017 22:18:10 GMT
That "leak" was 90% some random guy misunderstanding Daveliams legitimate leak and 10% said random guy making stuff up on the spot. I do believe Jaal is a bi LI, but as far as I'm concerned there is no leak. Well all 3 of us talked and no one was making anything up, but we'll wait and see. Do you have link to that? I'm not trying to rain on anyone parade or be facetious, but from what I remember the whole thing looked like nothing more than a big misunderstanding.
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 1, 2017 22:13:02 GMT
***Here be leak spoilers and all that jazz*** I believe the leak about Jaal being available for both Ryders. Liam I'm not so sure about, unfortunately, considering BioWare's track record. This could be the first time where both starting human squadmates are bi, but I dunno. That "leak" was 90% some random guy misunderstanding Daveliams legitimate leak and 10% said random guy making stuff up on the spot. I do believe Jaal is a bi LI, but as far as I'm concerned there is no leak.
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 1, 2017 14:51:05 GMT
She's probably just a background character who works on the Hyperion and appears on screen for less than a five seconds. Really not worth giving her this much attention.
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 1, 2017 0:00:16 GMT
I would love it if this time around some of the LI actually initiated talks about a relationship. 1000 x This! After DA2 and Anders, I'm not sure we'll get that though. It's a shame, really. I found Anders coming onto Hawke incredibly creepy, but only because he did it barely minutes after we watched him kill an ex-lover with his own hands. It's something that could work really well if handled better. Mass effect has come quite close in the past. Tali basically tells Shepard she likes him in ME2 with almost no prompt, as an example.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 31, 2017 23:21:10 GMT
Does this have any relation to that new IP they were making that was cancelled? The contemporary one with what looked like superpowers.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 31, 2017 21:41:31 GMT
I think one of the main issues is that it's a heavily story/character driven game. You can't show an hour of uncut single player gameplay without spoiling major stuff, and character designs change so much over the course of the game- I doubt they want to show off a huge number of unfinished art assets early like Inquisition did.
Ultimately I'm not too concerned. A lot of marketing seems to be more subdued recently, and after some of the huge over hyped flops that came out last year I prefer the more grounded approach.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 31, 2017 9:59:27 GMT
[...] That was one of the things that bothered me about Garrus romance, why does he feel attracted to female humans? female turians don't have tits, neither are so short, neither have lips, nose, etc, if he feels attracted to humans he should feel attracted to a male shepard as well. Think of it like this: how many straight male gamers found Garrus "attractive"? None, assuming they're straight. But many straight/bi females found Garrus attractive, and not just his voice. /shrug Just how sexuality works, I guess. I still really don't get that, particularly with the Turians. How alien does a species need to get before their gender, assuming the species even has them, becomes irrelevant?
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 30, 2017 20:01:24 GMT
Also, for the Salarians, Mordin and his apprentice's storyline proves that not all Salarians are of the same mind on the entire genophage issue. As for the cure... I mean BioWare could just pull some other way of curing the genophage out of their ass. They wouldn't even need to pull it out of their ass. Tank-breeding Krogan has been a thing since ME1.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 30, 2017 18:39:57 GMT
But could Liam be related to Anderson? A son of his sister, hence a different last name. "You know, my uncle David..." 7) Jaal as... well, being new species and so saves him, unless... he and the Angaran are the great great great great great great great great x50.000 times descendent of Javik or some Protheans refugees Didn't you hear? The Angara are actually the descendants of Quarian explorers who went through a malfunctioning relay. Over the last 600 years they have evolved to not need their suits, and Jaal is actually Kal'Reegar and Tali's great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandson. That's why they are being so hush about whether or not Quarians are in the game On a more serious note, I hope they don't go the route of making all the new characters have ties to old ones. It would feel cheap and overly referential.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 30, 2017 17:27:51 GMT
I've been pronouncing it somewhat similarly to "jowel" I guess. But I suppose it could also be pronounced like "jewel" or "j'all". He does look similar to Garrus, after seeing those images side by side. Hopefully Jaal will have compatible amino acid chirality, though. Also, in all seriousness I hope his personality and backstory aren't too similar to Garrus. I loved Garrus and Tali, but I don't want them to make Garrus 2.0 and Tali 2.0. My biggest concern with him at the moment is that he'll be too similar to Garrus and Javik. Especially after hearing what people are speculating is his voice.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 30, 2017 17:18:39 GMT
Crackseed @dacrackseed Saw the tweet about no planned crossplay - could this be re-evaluated? Lots of us would love option to play with friends. Aaryn Flynn aarynflynn It's not us, it's first party This sounds familiar Crossplay is incredibly easy to achieve, and Microsoft are happy to allow it between Microsoft computers and the Xbox. Unfortunately, Sony are very strict about this and don't like developers adding Crossplay between the playstation and other devices. Ultimately my company and many others decide than having crossplay between only two platforms is unfair and simply don't include it at all.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 30, 2017 16:20:30 GMT
At the moment, Scott and Jaal and Scott and Vetra.
I'd be happy with just those two, but I'm also hoping there are still some unannounced characters that will surprise me.
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