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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 10, 2017 13:37:24 GMT
The only problem is they won't write a m/m squadmate, just some crewmate or side character who's romances are worse and of a lower quality in every way and expect us to be happy with that. ME never cared for that if you look at how they do it. Kaidan was added during the last game due to fans, but for 2 games the only bi romance was an Asari. They just won't do what DA did. That's what I mean. People were very tired of waiting, got something with Kaidan finally, and then they took it away again. I don't agree with make Jaal bi, but I'm not surprised to see it at all.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 10, 2017 13:32:21 GMT
People just want playersexual characters. They don't care how believable that would be. Nuff said. :contempt: I say if they were written a certain way and the final results keeps them a certain way, it's done for a reason and should be left alone. I don't like Liam as a romance, but making him bi would also upset me because he was not written that way. The only problem is they won't write a m/m squadmate, just some crewmate or side character who's romances are worse and of a lower quality in every way and expect us to be happy with that.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 10, 2017 13:23:16 GMT
I didnt know about this!!! daaaaamn there goes my hypothetical goodie doer bro!Ryder :DD: Every news that I hear one step closer to Sara/Vetra to be my ultimate canon. You don't do the killing, you just dont stop an assassination. Wait there are people who feel bad about letting that happen? Everything gets better if you just don't interfere. Life on Kadara improves, as does your sex life.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 10, 2017 11:10:35 GMT
Sometimes I get bitter cause he talks to the other plebs more then me. My feels!!! I like to think Gil stays in Scott's room now and they make full use of that oversized bed a couple of times a day. An invite option would be nice. Sort of like iron bull's "do you have some free time" get some kissing and a ftb and then gil is shirtless in scott's room until the next time you visit a planet or nexus. I really like that actually. I can just imagine Gil chilling in Scott's room shirtless and lazy, watching a vid or something.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 10, 2017 11:00:57 GMT
Tbh there are quite a few things I'd like to ask if I felt there was any chance of getting an answer. The missing flirt, yes, tho I've kinda made my peace with it being gone. But also - where are the conflicts within the crew? It was once said that squadmates would disagree on things and you supporting one could alienate another. Perhaps related to that - why isn't it "very difficult" to complete all loyalty missions in one playthrough (this is also something the devs said would be a thing) and why aren't there any consequences for not doing LMs before post-game? I doubt anyone would seriously consider being unable to unlock a final tier ability a "consequence". It really seems like a lot of stuff was cut pretty late in development, which is a bit baffling to me cause it feels like it would have been pretty integral to the structure of the game by then, no? Perhaps this is why so often the pacing feels off? Exactly, it wasn't just the Jaal stuff that was cut. They talked a lot about how they "improved" the dialogue system, but I haven't seen any of this. The tone system is nice, but most of the time there are 2 (two) response options - what the hell is up with that? I don't think the fans cared much for it in ME3, why would they bring it back? And there were talks about some sort of agree/disagree mechanic, but there wasn't any of that either. Tge whole dialogue system seems pretty straightforward. Can you even have strained relationship with any of the crewmates, aside from Jaal if you kill Akksul or reject him? Seems like whenever I talked to anyone we just started liking each other, though I never even tried to get anyone to like me. Peebee was all buddy-buddy with me even though we hardly ever talked and she's supposed to be the ~lone wolf~ Oh, and I don't suppose you can actually "fall out of love" with anyone, like they said we could? Sorry for the salt ye guys, I guess I shouldn't have expected Bioware to keep their promises after ME3. Don't be sorry, these are really good points you are bringing up. What game were they talking about? Because we didn't get that one.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 10, 2017 10:08:15 GMT
Someone needs to asked the devs about it because what the hell? It sounds like the reviewers basically wrote about a different game than what we got, at least a different romance. Not cool. I actually asked Ian about the first flirt on twitter, before the recent patch, (wasn't trying to be difficult, just complemented the game and asked if they could fix his first flirt), didn't get any reaction. why do i have the feeling that #makejaalbi is involved in this But didn't that appear and take off after release?
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 10, 2017 9:51:22 GMT
You can apply that to anything romance related in this game. I'm just saying the "improvements to male romance options for Scott Ryder" could literally mean anything. I even saw one of the youtube channels (The know) saying it meant more options for us. (which is way unlikely, but many people read that to mean just that). It's an emotional blank check that people are left filling it in with any amount they pick, but there's no way to know if there's anything in the bank.
I get that everyone should keep expectations low, but it was anything but clear.
I get what you're saying. I was just thinking back to the terrible marketing for the game and how at release nobody knew any of the characters sexualities, even IGN didn't know, such a mess.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 10, 2017 9:43:15 GMT
Did anyone actually expect them to bring the voice actors in and record new lines just for patches? I though it was pretty clear from the start that the improvements to the m/m romances would be improving the romance scenes and fixing Reyes banter bugs. Maybe a tweak to the achievement as well. For people are acting so jaded and pessimistic those are some pretty unrealistic expectations. That's the issue. It wasn't clear at all what they meant. It could mean anything. You can apply that to anything romance related in this game.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 10, 2017 9:33:21 GMT
I really sympathize with you. I would gladly have a long distance relationship with my LI off ship in MEA2 so gay men and lesbian women could have quality, detailed squadmate romance options in that game. I'm willing to take a step back so others can have their fun space adventure with their fabulous, unique face model, gaylien (or badass female human) squadmate. You guys deserve it after all the shit you have been through these past 10 years. EDIT: so much hate for Liam!! I actually think he is cute! I'm gonna romance in my next playthrough. I think he is a sweetheart. Yeah, he might not be the smartest guy, but he is a loyal friend You don't need to loose some to we gain some if the ME team do their job, but damn your empathy is so lovely thank you Yes, Aurora, that's really really nice of you, we love you for that! But nobody should have to do that if ME does things in a competent manner. Thank you though!
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 10, 2017 8:55:41 GMT
Good morning! I need to catch-up, in the meantime somebody have posted this yet? I dont want to be a pain in the ass, but speculating its all what we get [Gent's, it's official: we've fixed Reyes dance scene - he will no longer dance at all! Also, we have no budget to expand anything so we just cut Jill out. Gil now has no personal "quest", but you no longer have to deal with Jill. And that's all. You're happy, right? #prettygoodbanging] :heh: "Gents, stop speculating. You're getting too close to the truth that we're lying to you again"
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 9, 2017 22:30:18 GMT
Salty Drell Out of the slab of Krogan Beef Mountain and into the Smooth Glorious Blue Angaran Chest Tits Fare thee well until the next time you wiggle out for air! Well actually, I wouldn't say I'm out of the slab of Krogan Beef Mountain, definitely not out in fact. Anyway bye again.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 9, 2017 22:22:07 GMT
Well this was a very nice visit. I think for now, yeah I'll just visit, I'll be back soon though. And @arshesnei, ok...maybe that beefy cage wasn't so bad, you're right it did keep me warm. Bye for now.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 9, 2017 21:56:49 GMT
My wishlist: A plot-relevant gay companion with good amount of story and romance content who is marketed at least decently and whose romance has nothing to do with his sexuality. I would also like a gay romance where the PC is the subject of chivalrous romantic gestures, and another gay romance where the PC is the one taking the role of the chivalrous romantic. And if there is explicit sex scenes, the gay scenes better not be FTB. Also 3 m/m romances would be dooope. Well, you just described heaven to me. Now how the hell do we get there?
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 9, 2017 21:48:51 GMT
I'm sorry...it sounds like I need to create another unholy abomination? Salty Drell hey, hey...I was helping you. I though since drell are lizards they needed the warmth.... wont mention that you're out of your beefy cage though....bad Angaran Drell...Oh no no no, I'm not going back in there... *backs away slowly* I just realised, this is why i was afraid to come back.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 9, 2017 21:40:56 GMT
Well well well, if it isn't you. Do you still get up to the same kind of trouble as before, when i was here? Of course not! I'm a dragon of class! I still haven't forgot what you did to me, it involved a certain set of abs...
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 9, 2017 21:37:06 GMT
Salty Drell They make Evfra romanceable, I'm gonna create a Ryder so fast just for him.... Ryder: Totally gonna make you love me so hard.... Evfra: *Emitting a disgusted noise* I'd rather love a fiend. Ryder: ....I would watch that. Evfra: ..... Evfra: Evfra: Get out. Well well well, if it isn't you. Do you still get up to the same kind of trouble as before, when i was here?
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 9, 2017 21:32:50 GMT
My account started here, probably 90% of my posts are on this thread. I dont mind seeing Jaal sex scenes here, i dont mind hearing all about Jaal here because after so long i didn't come here for Jaal, i came here for the people in the thread. So i don't know why it's so hard to come back here. You will always be welcome. Just know that. Thanks. I know i can count on that, but yeah, i don't know really.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 9, 2017 21:24:26 GMT
oh dammit. I can't deny that I've essentially left, not because of any of you, i still love everyone here, but i have my reasons. It's wishfulpickle by the way, if that name is remembered here. You are not forgotten. My account started here, probably 90% of my posts are on this thread. I dont mind seeing Jaal sex scenes here, i dont mind hearing all about Jaal here because after so long i didn't come here for Jaal, i came here for the people in the thread. So i don't know why it's so hard to come back here.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 9, 2017 21:15:02 GMT
Cool. My only input on this will be it's not everyone, A reminder to not judge a whole group for what certain people do (not saying anyone's doing that just important advice) And love the people who want to love, like me. I'm hurt by the many who left us. It's not a pain I can just push aside. I'll get over it someday. oh dammit. I can't deny that I've essentially left, not because of any of you, i still love everyone here, but i have my reasons. It's wishfulpickle by the way, if that name is remembered here.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 9, 2017 21:06:46 GMT
It's not everyone. Pretty much more and more people each day deciding they don't want bi Jaal and moving on. Not what I got in another thread today. Cool. My only input on this will be it's not everyone, A reminder to not judge a whole group for what certain people do (not saying anyone's doing that just important advice) And love the people who want to love, like me.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 9, 2017 20:58:59 GMT
That's not even the worst. I stopped going in when I literally saw one particular poster imply that Jaal fans were obviously homophobes. Sorry but different opinions don't make that so, it was really disheartening to see that. Are you serious?? Wow... just wow... It's not everyone. Pretty much more and more people each day deciding they don't want bi Jaal and moving on.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 9, 2017 20:49:37 GMT
So I know I've been touting realistic optimism. Here's my unrealistic optimism: Weekes, an ally and a member of the LGBT community, sees the complete shit show that is the MEA m/m options and vows to make sure that it doesn't happen in his game. So he purposefully makes sure that everyone gets the same amount of options from the beginning, this includes the same number of "full romances v. light romances" and the same number of "companion v NPC romances". This would be both equality AND equity, for those following along at home. And, to be honest, unless EA steps in and stops it from happening, Weekes and his team could very easily do this. Until I hear otherwise, I'm going to keep this as my north star for DA4. Yes, I have faith in Weekes, but not EA.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 9, 2017 20:43:20 GMT
Don't worry. It breaks, then reforms, then breaks, then reforms. I like to think we all love each other though, all of us.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 9, 2017 20:32:55 GMT
I finally caught up with this thread. Chris Evans pecs are the most memorable thing in the last 20 pages. Good man, you know what's important. *high five*
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 9, 2017 20:05:22 GMT
Doesn't even make sense either because a poor person losing 25% gives them far greater hardship than a wealthy person. Yaaaaasss come through Marxist shadeMarxism wooo?
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