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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 7, 2017 23:47:45 GMT
Well when you wake up, tell me which NPC you would want to fill this role, dammit! Uh. Avitus or Evfra for a slowburn, '' professional relationship develops into something bigger than both of you expected '' type of thing. Hard risk, high reward romance. Darling, you need your rest, gaylien speculation will be here still if you sleep.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 7, 2017 23:27:03 GMT
You've killed me, you've completely killed me with that, too cute.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 7, 2017 23:07:04 GMT
So sexy. Scientifically, this is the ideal man. You don't have to like it, but you do have to accept it.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 7, 2017 23:00:18 GMT
Emm, guys. Serious question for ya. I have eGuide and it says that I actualy can choose Evfra... (endgame spoilers) to be an Ambassador to the Nexus at the end of the game. I didn't get that option nor seen anyone got it. Does it was cut? ;_; I want old man for this job (and to hear him being pissed off about this just a little) so badly right now. It kinda make sense, he has his own cause to take care of, but still. It seems like it's a big unknown. Maybe it's really hard to achieve, maybe it was cut. Don't know, sorry.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 7, 2017 22:53:08 GMT
People are getting way too heated over the Gil shit. A lot of people are still disappointed in our options. Gil is going to get shit because we're stuck with him this game as an only main option and the idea of being stuck with him in a equal or nearly equal context next game also is just the worst for a lot of us. If you like him, then honestly, you're the lucky ones. You actually got something you wanted. It's not that I'm not happy for you, I just don't want this to dominate the gay romance scene indefinitely. It's not personal. I don't like Gil, but I think a lot of Gil fans are awesome people. I don't want some stupid grudge with any of the Gil fans. Most all of you are very cool and I'd rather we were chill. I just wish everyone didn't have to take it so personally. I really don't care if people hate Reyes and want to murder him, or if you actually did murder Anders and Kaidan. They're not real people. Everyone has different taste. I don't get why some people are so insistent that was have to accept Gil or that we can't just know he's a miss for us. I think it's totally valid if you can't forgive Reyes for lying and know he's not your type of romance. I'm not going to keep yelling you down on it like "BUT YOU'RE NOT A WRITER YOU DON'T KNOW". I'm sure you know what you like. Everyone just wants to get some content they enjoy in the next game. Not everyone will. Congrats to whoever does, good luck next time to whoever doesn't. I don't see why it needs to be more dramatic than that. This all just really makes me lean more towards wanting a new protagonist when at first I was leaning towards keeping Ryder. It would dodge a bullet if they could just start from a clean slate and not go so overboard this time. 2/2/2 in the main cast, everyone gets at least one squad and one main cast, ship romance. IMO, looking like the best choice at this point. it sucks if most people here act like gil personally murdered their dog. i'm also not insisting that people should accept gil, i'm aware he will never be to everybody's taste. it's people acting like gil is some incredible disaster that can only be corrected by introducing another character, but that means bioware is not taking responsibility for their mistake, they're just doing fan service to make us shut up. i actually agree with many criticisms here and no, i'm not satisfied with gil as an option, especially not in this state, but he is the only gay option we have and bioware needs to treat that with respect. again, i understand if you find gil inherently repulsive, extra content will probably not make it better, but that does not mean that giving him proper treatment won't make him a viable option for many other players. besides, this situation is not about "can gil be salvaged" but it's "gay option, no matter who or what needs to be treated with respect and not like an afterhought" I think it's more that people hate Jill's involvement in the whole situation, honestly i just feel really sorry for Gil.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 7, 2017 22:10:06 GMT
Professionals writers are the people that wrote Gil like he is written and let him be released in the state that he is in, I don't know why you are giving them so much credit? Unless the writer was forced to create the character Gil is now and his work was monitored by some filthy EA executives who think they know better than a professional writer. um, then why you demand gayliens and why you call yourself a fan if you think writers are doing such shit job? gil does not suffer from inherent flaws in design, he suffers from lack of polish and pacing. There's also a major lack of content, just adding that in.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 7, 2017 18:31:49 GMT
Welcome to the salt mines ! Heigh ho it's off to work we go to break our backs under the crippling weight of disappointment and crushed dreams :sob: *Throws you a pickaxe* Here you go friend, get to work mining salt if you want.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 7, 2017 16:04:46 GMT
@princeenigmatic Thanks. And I'm glad to see you're still around. The mod team has been incredible and patient with me throughout all of this. They are an awesome bunch. Good to see you Natashina, hope your husband will be okay.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 7, 2017 13:15:18 GMT
How much do you think the Mass Effect team hates the Dragon Age team right now? It's like when a parent says, "why can't you be more like your brother?" Lol. Honestly? All jokes aside, I do wish the Mass Effect writing team will do much better the next time around. That being said, I'm hoping a good portion of them are thinking "Never piss off the gays again. NEVER piss off the gays again." I honestly hope they're fucking terrified, but they're probably not. They probably don't like us even more and will try this again.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 7, 2017 12:48:07 GMT
Uhhh no, you can stay and have them too, why not? I will just invite Jill to come over *shuts down communications* Don't bring that devil here, are you crazy? Keep her away from the gayliens!
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 7, 2017 12:44:44 GMT
*closes door* I forgot to mention there's no escape from this family buddy. Get comfy. Okay okay what if I give you Bi Evfra, gay Avitus and Bi Kandros... will you open the door Uhhh no, you can stay and have them too, why not?
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 7, 2017 12:33:20 GMT
*closes door* I forgot to mention there's no escape from this family buddy. Get comfy. Fml I hate you all. Love you too you moody jerk!
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 7, 2017 12:29:42 GMT
But it's cute. We're a family you can't deny it! *hugs* I'm gonna find a sugar daddy, because you daddies are lame and gay. This family sucks. Dick. Quite literally. BYE. *closes door* I forgot to mention there's no escape from this family buddy. Get comfy.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 7, 2017 12:26:51 GMT
I think it's pointless to discuss over others opinions, yeah we can do wishlists but that's it, because Bioware Montreal is going to do whatever they like in the next game, and this sounds so fucking cheesy but we need to stick together versus this problem That IS cheesy. How dare you. But it's cute. We're a family you can't deny it! *hugs*
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 7, 2017 11:20:55 GMT
I dedicate this page to a lost Star Wars game that we never got, Star Wars 1313.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 7, 2017 0:50:31 GMT
But SAM sees what you see, feels what you feel. Aren't you essentially having a threeway with SAM involved whenever you have sex with anyone? He goes into "privacy mode" I saw a funny tumblr post saying he always tells you to go see Reyes because he has a crush on it. "You like him because he called you fancy..." Yeah, while on Kadara SAM just randomly said to me with no explanation "You should visit Mr Vidal". Maybe he does have a crush on him.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 6, 2017 22:18:32 GMT
If I've learned anything about this fandom it's that if you create it, at least one of us wants to bang it. -looks guilty- *looks at picture of Yahg, then also looks guilty*
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 6, 2017 21:45:10 GMT
Here are my Jill memes if other memers can add there's feel free, if not just spam me links and I'll add them this thread moves really fast I'll add my inspired creations in a sec. Once I actually get the game working again. Been looking at a black screen for several hours now since Origin installed the new patch. I think it might be karma for being a gay guy dissing a gay romance option. No you should be gaining good karma for doing that, because it's an unacceptable gay romance option.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 6, 2017 18:09:33 GMT
Wow, guys have you seen the new patch difference? The eyes are very important, so if you fuck up the eyes the whole face looks weird. I'd say this is quite an improvement.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 6, 2017 14:44:58 GMT
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 6, 2017 13:36:58 GMT
Same here, got a hobby for astrophysics and I've just been trying to ignore that very scientifically inaccurate black hole. Don't look, just don't look at it... So I take it you loved the time travelling human book-shelf plotline from Interstellar, huh? The time dilation was extreme but still made sense, they handled that black hole quite well until he actually went into it, then it just went crazy yeah.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 6, 2017 12:53:20 GMT
It's moments like this when I'm grateful that I'm an enormous noob when it comes to physics and astronomy . #spacemagic Haha having the opposite problem here. I've been sighing a lot with the descriptions of several planets atmospheric conditions in the Heleus Cluster (to be fair, the OT had this as well, if to a lesser extent). Same here, got a hobby for astrophysics and I've just been trying to ignore that very scientifically inaccurate black hole. Don't look, just don't look at it...
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 6, 2017 10:52:48 GMT
Bringing that tweet liked by Mike Gamble again it's pretty interesing he liking this tweet when the user didnt even mention him, interesting Ofc they have queerbaited us before, so this means nothing. Interesting nothingness, but interesting regardless Maybe Mike Gamble just liked the concept of it, but it's not actually happening.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 5, 2017 23:22:30 GMT
My name is Scott Ryder Prince E I like chocolate... ...cats... ...and men. The Holy Trinity. My three favourite things... Sorry I'm bored Good to see you Prince. And that's a pretty good trinity.
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Post by Salty Drell on Apr 5, 2017 21:46:18 GMT
"Improvements to male romance options for Scott Ryder" I'm happy to read this but this needs to be a new squad member available from the early part of the game. Anything less is discrimination in both the societal sense and the legal sense as far as I understand it. Bioware is selling a product and probably the most important feature of that product is character interaction. It's their tagline: "Characters first". Romance in their games is indisputably a core part of that interaction and a huge selling point when it comes to marketing the game experience to their players. The problem is, however, that the experience for gay men is nowhere near equivalent to that of straight and lesbian players both in quantity and quality of content but they are selling it for the same price. They have so far refused to provide an equal experience to me as a player based on the fact that I am a gay man. Now because this product has artistic merit, the legal waters are murky but to me, the "goods" in the sense of "goods and services" that I received when I paid for the game are of vastly inferior quality to what a straight person recieved. It doesn't matter that the product is identical because the experience is not and that is what they are selling. But lets put that aside and focus on Bioware's social responsibilty to include both substantial and meaningful gay content in their games. Is this a responisbility they have to shoulder? Do I have a right to demand they make games that include such content? Not really, because like I said earlier, the game has artistic merit and that shouldn't be forcebly compromised. I support the right of any writer to write the stories and characters they choose. But choosing to exclude gay men from experiencing the deep and exhaustive character romance interactions, that can only be achieved when the playable character romances a squad member who is with you throughout the entire 100+ hour journey, Bioware is sending the message that we are not valued as players. If this were another company whose history of LGBT+ inclusion was questionable or non-existent, had they not made public proclamations regarding their commitment to diversity in gaming and if they were not the poster-child; the vanguard if you will, for inclusivity in interactive media, this would not hurt as much as it did. What message does it send to the rest of the industry when even Bioware tries to sell the threadbare state of Scott's male romance as "inclusion". More importantly, what message does it send to young gaymers when they look to play a game that lets them be who they are and find that the "best" the industry has to offer, the very developer who claims to value them, respect them and promises to treat them equally, decides that they are not worth the time, money and effort it would take for them to enjoy their games in the same, equal way that straight players do. But let's, for a moment, take all the law and politics out of the discussion and just focus on how I personally felt playing the game. I can tell you in one word how I felt: heartbroken. But also empty, excluded, angry, betrayed and very, very stupid for trusting Bioware to make me feel as though I matter as a player. I felt rejected, both metaphorically and literally by Liam and then Jaal; and then confused when my Ryder was suddenly standing in a room with the pair of them - Liam shirtless and Jaal completely nude - while Scott just stared blankly like an idiot. This was tone-deaf at best and cruel at worst, and it was then followed by another shirtless Liam scene. All the while, I was trying to make the most of five or six 60 second conversations with Gil only to find out that suddenly we're having a baby. OK, I'll play along. Next conversation, Gil starts talking about the final Archon fight and the baby and my Ryder responds by saying that all he could think about during the fight was the little one on the way; the one that I only found out about 20 seconds ago. It was a fitting end to the most shallow and sloppy romance that I have ever experienced in any Bioware game. I audibly WTF'd and shut it down. So that's my take on the situation as it stands. I know a new character is resource intensive. I know it may be difficult to implement but I really hope they do. Making superficial changes to the already existing options and promising to do better next time will not do. I've already waited five years for this game and I really don't feel like waiting another five (so basically a decade) for another m/m squadmate romance and besides, if you tell me that, I won't believe you. Why would I? The ball's in your court guys. A really well put together and great post. I agree with everything here, well said friend.
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