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Post by Dirk on Jan 16, 2019 9:53:27 GMT
Ubisoft's first comment on the situation: When asked by Kotaku about this development, Ubisoft sent over an e-mailed statement. “We strive to give players choice whenever possible in Odyssey and apologize to those surprised by the events in this episode,” the statement said. “Without spoiling it, you will engage in an important relationship as part of a set story. The motivation behind this relationship is yours to explore in game and will be reflected in your character’s story arc. There is one episode left in Legacy of the First Blade which will tie your character’s actions together.”kotaku.com/assassins-creed-odysseys-latest-dlc-has-a-romantic-endi-1831784459Quite a significant change from their previous statement given around the game launch... Nothing left to say but
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Post by Dirk on Jan 15, 2019 11:32:11 GMT
Fair warning to all other LGBTQ members here who play Assassin's Creed Odyssey: avoid the newest DLC like the plague. I've heard that Jill from MEA sent her regards with the baby stuff in the newest DLC. Luckily I just have the base game.
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Post by Dirk on Jan 12, 2019 23:35:51 GMT
In my previous post, I did some statistical calculation to see which demographic cares more about race in romance options. The previous result was that, from caring about race the most to the least, Now with twice the data points, it looks like there has been a big change in the ranking. Doing the same calculation as in my previous post, I get this new result (again from caring about race the most to the least). Raw values under the spoiler Higher coefficient of variation (CV) means race matters more. PC/LI pair | Previous CV | Current CV | m/m | 0.20 | 0.23 | m/f | 0.28 | 0.15 | f/f | 0.10 | 0.06 | f/m | 0.22 | 0.25 |
So what changes over the span for a week? - In m/m, dwarf LI is getting less popular compared to other races, leading to a jump in the ranking. - More m/f people seem to come around liking the idea of dwarf LI and qunari LI. - f/f crowd continues not giving shit about race. It almost looks like there is no preference at all! - In f/m crowd, there is a surge in preference in elf LI and human LI which helps f/m to reach the top of the ranking.
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Post by Dirk on Jan 12, 2019 9:52:05 GMT
there's apparently a mod to take them all xD I've got Beast, Ifan, and Lohse. Gosh they feel like family. I love them so much Assuming I can find the willpower, I'm gonna go with Ifan, lizard dude and Fane. It'll be a real sausage fest. ... assuming they all have sausages. I suggest against taking Red Prince with you (and strongly against romancing him). He will spend half of the game day dreaming about, lusting over, and chasing to have sex with a particular woman. Take the dwarf instead.
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Post by Dirk on Jan 6, 2019 14:30:37 GMT
So here’s a follow up question for the thread: Which was your single favorite romance option in a BioWare game and why? And, if the character is bisexual, what gender was your PC? For me, it was Kaidan with MShep, which I explained a few pages earlier. A major character in the story; emotional and believable dialogue; they weren’t afraid to show genuine affection between two men (likely because it was dialogue written for FemShep, but, hey, I’ll take what I can get); and on a superficial level, he’s hot and his voice is sexy. Kaidan/MShep for pretty much the same reasons. I also like that he has control over his life and does not ask me to solve all his personal problems. I feel he is more stable, mature, and trustworthy than other m/m romances in Bioware game. Really he is a type of guy I would marry in real life. And yes he is incredibly hot and it does not help that his face model is super hot and also gay!
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Post by Dirk on Jan 6, 2019 14:07:55 GMT
It's great to see that you have returned gaycaravaggio From what I've gathered here, it looks like f/f romance could do with less fluff while m/m romance could do with more. I suppose we can make a trade deal and send it to Bioware haha Regarding "forced diversity," I don't really think it is an issue at all. Just give everyone great romance options and I will be happy.
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Post by Dirk on Jan 4, 2019 18:44:36 GMT
Very interesting data so far. So, I could not help doing some simple statistic and calculating the coefficient of variation(CV) based on race for each gender pair (PC and LI). In human words, the numbers below essentially show how much race matters for each m/m, m/f, and so (0 means race does not matter at all, 1 mean race absolutely matters). PC/LI pair | CV | m/m | 0.20 | m/f | 0.28 | f/f | 0.09 | f/m | 0.26 |
Please take these as a grain of salt since the sampling size is small. It looks like f/f does not have strong preference about races while m/f has the strongest preference. I'd have thought m/m would have the strongest preference since we did have some varied responses in the romance thread.
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Post by Dirk on Jan 4, 2019 0:13:24 GMT
also forgot to say this: Welcome back caladrius and dhalion . I am very happy to see you two return here!
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Post by Dirk on Jan 3, 2019 23:18:27 GMT
It's not for me, but I support your campaign! I also agree that Fenris is a twink. And, frankly, Zevran is a little twink-y as well. Which is probably why they are the least attractive m/m options (looks wise, at least) to me. Elf design in DA (where they are shorter, slimmer, and hairless), just skew twink so if we got any elf options, they'd likely hit this "type".
One interesting thing in reading this thread is how varied the requests are for the m/m options compared to the requests for the other options. For M/F, we mostly hear "traditionally attractive" and "human or elf". For F/F, we mostly hear "warrior", "butch", "strong and tall". I can't actually think of many F/M requests, right now., other than some general appreciation towards the fish guy from Shape of Water.
But for M/M, we get "twink elf mage", "KISA", "human", "dwarf or qunari", "werewolf", "femme", "butch", etc.
It's clear that some people will be disappointed with what we get in DA4. Hopefully that doesn't lead them to wanting to burn the place down. And, also hopefully, it demonstrates to Bioware that they can take a risk with a "non-traditional" option or two.
I think there will be less disappointment if there are more than just two m/m options. In ME and DA games, there are at most 2 m/m options (except for MEA where bi Jaal was added later), meanwhile straight male players get many more female LIs in ME games, and there are 4 LIs for straight female player. So, I think it's a good time that there should be 3 m/m options or, Maker forbids, 4 but that seems very unlikely. I remember when Bound By Flame came out someone here posted an email from Spiders saying they wanted to include the LGBT audience in their next game. (@daveliam was that you?) I'm glad they did, but it's too bad they couldn't do gender select too. Hopefully they'll keep getting more inclusive. I think Spiders has potential and I'm keeping an open mind to Geeedfall, although I don't want to set myself up for disappointment. lol Yep, that was me. I reached out them through the forums and a community manager on staff at Spiders replied and said that they recognized that they dropped the ball on including s/s romance in Bound by Flame and that they would rectify that in their games going forward. And then the very next game was Technomancer which, as others have pointed out, did include a s/s romance for the male PC (but didn't have gender options for the PC unfortunately). I'm expecting Greedfall to do better. I feel like they are "Baby Bioware" in that way. Like where Bioware was back in the ME/DA:O years. They have confirmed that there will be gay romance(s) for both male and female PC in Greedfall. They said that they won't go all bi approach and there will be 5 companions. So, I think we may get 1 or 2 m/m option in that game. I know it's not the same but isometric classic rpgs have been giving me the gay content I deserve (DOS2 and POE). I wish those games could have the content that modern rpgs have though, I would definitely DIE to see Tekehu with present graphics from an AAA game company and sweet animations
Just say Ekera and I'm dead I posted a list of games I'm waiting and Greedfall is one of them for sure. The Waylanders (heavily based on DAO gameplay) too since it's a spanish indie company and I hope my people can make me feel proud, they have lgbtq devs and the lead writer for the characters and romances is a bisexual woman, and lgbtq romances are already confirmed (long wait till 2020 though ) cant wait since DAO is my favorite DA game. Oh yes! I am surprised by how great Ifan romance in DOS2 is so far even though he is not a KISA, and I can't wait to experience that sweet dwarf romance! I am quite curious about Fane's romance as well since he seems to be the most plot relevant and he is a skeleton. It would be interesting to bone him. I guess it's lucky for us that there are 4 m/m romances in that game that are quite varied, but it is unfortunate that there are only 2 female options. I would not mind if Red Prince were to be Red Princess instead.
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Post by Dirk on Jan 3, 2019 8:14:49 GMT
I have no preference on the skin color of the gay KISA because I would already be very happy if there is even one! Though if he can transform into werewolf then that's a bonus point.
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Post by Dirk on Dec 29, 2018 14:32:59 GMT
I mean, everyone is entitled to their opinion on what they find attractive, but there have been loads and loads of human love interests, while I've been waiting patiently for eighteen years (nineteen in a few days!) for a dwarf. Can I not have one dwarf after all this time? Is that an unreasonable thing to want? After nearly two decades, I don't even care which dwarf. I will cheerfully accept Oghren. It's not like there won't also be humans to romance for all the people who are not into dwarves.
In addition, most of the people asking for a Qunari are asking for a woman, which is not something we've seen before either. Surely all the lady Qunari fans deserve a love interest who can bench press them into the sun?
I think the audience is definitely ready for dwarf romance, considering some people seem to like a chance to romance Harding. 18 years is a long time and I hope you get dwarf romance this time. And yeah since we had a male Qunari LI, I think it is a fair game to have a female Qunari this time! In fantasy, I definitely prefer non-humans over humans if given the choice (ESPECIALLY if the player character is forced to be human)... though there are some human LIs I really like (Morrigan, Isabela, Dorian). Part of that is novelty, as in, this is something you'd never get to experience in real life, so why not here? And part of that is that qunari are huge (and sexy), elves are lithe (and sexy), dwarves are strong (and sexy). Lolol no shame. Same! I generally prefer non-human LI though I don't mind humans much. Which leads to... Without relying on tropes - I'm hoping for a strong and silent type, a warrior with a drive to help others. Seemingly harsh, but kind and devoted, when romanced. Preferably a human, but at this point I'm just hoping it's not an elf. If it's a Rivaini raised among the Seers - he could absolutely despise the Vints for twisting magic so far from what he knows. Cue him hating everyone from Tevinter in the party, with Mae slowly convincing him that they're not all like the blight. Also, he's a werewolf and basically Derek Hale Plz Bioware, that's like a totally reasonable request, especially the werewolf part. OH YES! Co-signing this! Werewolf KISA (or KIFA as in my title) LI is the thing I have been wanting the most. And I feel a bit robbed after reading that Hawke was supposed to be a werewolf companion and so possibly an LI.
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Post by Dirk on Dec 29, 2018 3:48:12 GMT
Welcome back sandalisthemaker ! It's good to see you here I am quite optimistic about romance in DA4 right now. I really hope Bioware learns from their mistakes in MEA.
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Post by Dirk on Dec 28, 2018 23:44:40 GMT
So who want a scaled one romance? We know nothing about them but I hope they are not all savages and all the info we got is dwarf propaganda Yes, yes, yes! hmm an example
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Post by Dirk on Dec 28, 2018 13:02:45 GMT
Another wish: I would like to be able to have conversations with the LI and other companions when we are out exploring whenever we want like in DAO and DA2. For very important conversations and cut scenes, those can happen in specific areas like in a camp or a stronghold.
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Post by Dirk on Dec 28, 2018 0:27:02 GMT
My personal wish is a gay KISA. It is one kind of romance that I have not really experienced. I don't care much about race. And I don't want the gay romance to have the homosexuality drama like in Dorian. I think I have enough of that. I would like to see some LIs making move on you as well. It should not be blatant or aggressive like "You're hot, lets fuck." There should be many options to respond to that as well such as gently letting them down, not-so-gently letting down, and accepting; basically giving enough options for people to roleplay. One last thing I want to see in DA4 is that Bioware should be more transparent on which LIs are available to whom when it comes to marketing before launch. I don't want to go through what they did for MEA launch again. the closest thing to a Punisher-like love interest I have seen is Hancock from FO4, I love my ghoulie boi I dont know men, we are going to wait a lot til we'll see actual info and that drives me nuts lol hopefully other rpgs release info to endure this madness Hancock is lovely. I think I romance all the guys in Fallout 4. I expect DA4 to be out around 2020. Not sure if that is an optimistic view. So yeah it is going to be a long wait. Meanwhile I am romancing Ifan in Divinity 2. His flirt is very cute which Bioware could learn a thing or two from it. About RPG, The Outer Worlds is coming next year but there is no romance.
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Post by Dirk on Dec 25, 2018 1:09:11 GMT
I've played D2 for about 400 hours and plan to continue playing it. I am looking forward to Anthem as well. While I adore and enjoy D2, there are aspects of Anthem that sound really great to me:
- Matchmaking in activities. I depend on my clan for Nightfalls in D2 but my clan is a casual one so not many people are very active, so matchmaking would have been nice. I still don't get why escalation protocol does not have matchmaking either.
- Armor stats not tied to the cosmetic customization. This is one of the things I want the most. I really dislike it when in D2 I had to wear some ugly pieces of armors just for the stats.
- Bioware's style of story telling. D2's lore has such a great potential but its presentation and delivery are rather lacking. The world of Anthem so far is interesting, and I hope Bioware gets the story right.
- Flying and vertical gameplay just look so great!
- No pvp. I actually don't mind the idea of pvp, but what I would dislike in D2 pvp are that the balance in pvp and pve are tied and that certain progression is tied to pvp (Ace of Space quest for example).
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Post by Dirk on Dec 22, 2018 23:33:56 GMT
Anyone want to guess the expected ratio of human to nonhuman LIs? 4 humans, 3 non-humans. As much I as I love non-human LIs, I still expect that most people still prefer human LIs and Bioware will have to satisfy those. Though I hope I can romance non-human ones!
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Post by Dirk on Dec 21, 2018 19:26:05 GMT
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Post by Dirk on Dec 19, 2018 23:40:31 GMT
This sounds fun!
Introduce Photo-Mode: 15 Support min/maxing of builds without rerolling: 10 Fix Frostbite sound bug: 11 Pets/drones that fly with you: 12 30+ hours of story gameplay in Fort/Strider: 12 Fix Frostbite Menu-dimming bug: 10 Gear upgrade: 10
Clarification: suppose you have a gun you really like, but as your power level increases, that gun is now under-leveled. Rather than grinding and hoping for RNG to drop that gun again, there should be ways to upgrade that gun to your current power level. For example, you might be able to dismantle your gun to get its blueprint and then craft it to your current power level. Or you could spend resource to upgrade it at the forge.
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Post by Dirk on Dec 11, 2018 22:05:25 GMT
I don't mind too much a totally separate pvp mode. By totally I mean (drawing examples from Destiny 2)
- No locking progression behind pvp modes. In D2 to get certain weapons some pvp objectives need to be completed. Just let me get these items from pve activities.
- Separate balancing. A weapon being too strong solely in pvp mode should not get nerf in pve mode.
In competition mode, there should not be direct interaction between players in opposite teams. D2 almost has a good idea with its Gambit mode. In Gambit, two teams of four compete in two separate but identical arenas. There are waves of a.i. enemies in an arena. The job is to kill these enemies, collect things they drop, and deposit those things in a bank. When a bank is fully filled, a big bad guy is summoned and whichever team kills it first wins. I like this type of competition where your skills at killing enemy a.i. are tested against another team's. The problem is, in addition to this mechanic, that there is an invasion mechanic where a player can invade the opponent's arena and that's where the fun ends.
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Post by Dirk on Dec 11, 2018 1:36:03 GMT
I really hope there won't be any pvp. I play Destiny 2 and pvp aspects are really annoying especially when certain progression is locked behind pvp activities.
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Post by Dirk on Dec 11, 2018 1:22:04 GMT
So, according to the TVTrope page on DA2 (not the most reliable source I know), Hawke was originally intended to be a companion and werewolf! I think it would be cool to have a werewolf companion in DA4. There could be interesting comparison/discussion between them and Solas or some cheesy puns and jokes about wolves.
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Post by Dirk on Dec 11, 2018 0:58:16 GMT
Some lore regarding her most of you already know (sorry for small image):
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Post by Dirk on Dec 11, 2018 0:35:13 GMT
Okay, I'm going for things we've never had before, and want to avoid past tropes at all costs. 1. A good mage, preferably female. Perhaps someone who escaped from the Qun, a really gentle girl who happened to be 8 foot tall would be kind of adorable. Please, I'd like us to have just one mage who doesn't have some creepy ulterior motive. bi-romance 2. A female Warden, any race. Her personal quest could link to the whole Warden sub-plot that was hinted at in DA:I. f/f romance 3. An older male soldier, not a templar. Perhaps he knew Krem and recalls helping him escape. He's not necessarily loyal to his government and willing to join our cause (whatever that may be). m/m romance 4. An escaped slave, but not a mage, and an elf. I know we had this in Fenris, but we're actually in Tevinter now, and it would be curious to see maybe a slave who worked for a noble family like Dorian's. We've only had Dorian's (pretty gross) side of that story, where he claimed slaves were no better than free poor folk. So I'd like to see the other side of the argument (if you can call it that). Either gender? ace 5. A dwarf from the Coterie, probably a woman. straight 6. Another dwarf, a man, but a scholar. And he is not "feminized" because he's a scholar; he is a typical-looking dwarf, broad-shouldered, thick hair and beard. Perhaps he's older. And of course he can fight. His research is somehow vital to the plot. straight I don't think we should really have more than this. I feel like DA2 had the perfect number of companions; I also like the all-bi aspect, but I'm pretty sure BioWare aren't going back to that. With my romance picks, I tried to go against past tropes, though, oops, I made both dwarfs straight which is odd. But y'all know I'm all for no straights whatsoever in the party ;D Make the straights the boring ones who never leave the castle lmao I'm also all for non-binary characters, for any of the above. Same with trans. Wonderful list! I would be very interested in getting to know the daddy male soldier #3. Such character and romance is what I have always been looking for. The bi mage without ulterior motive is nice as well. As much as I love Anders and justify his actions, I could do with less explosive kind of relationship with a mage. The escaped slave is also a good one. I really want to see Dorian's viewpoints regarding slavery challenged. Actual ace representation is nice as well.
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Post by Dirk on Dec 10, 2018 21:49:58 GMT
I want to romance a demon. It would be interesting to see how dating and sex work in the fade.
Also pride demon in DAI is kinda cute.
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