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Post by Ryzaki on May 8, 2017 2:37:39 GMT
It helps that Dorian himself says he's not interested in making nice with his abuser and asks to leave. All you have to do is respect his feelings and head for the door. ...Still pretty awkward to be standing there the whole time, though, you're not wrong. Yeah except the options are more like "let's go Dorian." instead of letting him choose for himself. I just wanted a more hands off approach option.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 8, 2017 1:12:24 GMT
This is why pushing them to make up always felt off to me. Even as a friend or lover, it'd be crossing a line to do that considering the context. And if the Inquisitor by that point is just Dorian's boss, then it's even more inappropriate. Yep everyone else's personal issues either have some influence on their job (in the case of Cullen his ability to do said job, Cole's a potential threat until you resolve his issue), the Inquisition itself (Blackwall, Sera, Bull) or the greater narrative (like Cassandra's seekers, Varric's girlfriend releasing red lyrium). Dorian's meanwhile is purely personal so it feels awkward as hell to intervene.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 8, 2017 0:25:18 GMT
Ugh I hate the Dorian conversation choice because I wanted a "I'm leaving you two deal with this and I'll see you back at Skyhold." choice. Being forced to stay there was just so awkward and the the biggest do not want choice in the game. Everyone else I could see why Quizzy was helping them make the decision (and I will always love that Cassandra actually has a "You have to make this decision." choice) but Dorian and his dad? Why am I even being put on the spot?
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Post by Ryzaki on May 3, 2017 22:50:51 GMT
In my Opinion yes. Dorian is just Gaynst and Bull's another promiscuous bisexual who only talks about how much he loves banging the ladies while you date him, he also never hits on the Inquisition, well he does once when he's drunk, meanwhile he basically flirts with anything that moves. All the romantic scenes with him revolve around sex too. Sure somethings were cut from Kaiden's but it actually felt like a real relationships and I just vastly enjoyed it more than what DA offered. I actually didn't play ME1 until after 3 (oops) but I still prefer it. At times, seeing both my romance run with IB, in which he seemed totally uninterested until he suddenly showed up in Quizzy's bedroom, and then watching him mercilessly hit on Dorian in the next game when I romanced neither of them, it actually felt like some writer found the Dorian/IB relationship much more interesting than the IB/Inquisitor one. I liked Iron Bull as a character and his romance is funny and certainly original with its sub/Dom undertones. But I don't know if it really felt like a romance that would stand the test of time. Idk, maybe it doesn't have to be, not everything is the One True Relationship. But considering he and Dorian seem to be pretty serious at the end if you let that run its course, I was actually kind of jealous for my Inquisitor, lol. The relationship between Shepard and Kaidan felt more like two people actually in love, with a serious, long-shared history behind then. I kind of hate the IB/Dorian ship because of this so much. Like why was all the effort put into that ship and almost none of it in his romance with the Inquisitor? It's so backwards. Isabela and Fenris managed to have a relationship just fine without it overshadowing their romance with Hawke.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 3, 2017 19:44:15 GMT
? Isabela has different dialogue with a male yes but she doesn't hide her attraction to women whatsoever when you're playing MHawke. Anders main issue was skipping over mentioning Karl. Really? Shit, I might be misremembering that I could have sworn that MHawke was missing some dialogue when I played him with Isabela. But it has been a while, and given DA2's state, it could be a completely unrelated bug. The Karl thing did bother me. But then again, everything that Anders did was both endearing and infuriating to me Yeah I only romanced Isabela with MHawke and it's pretty obvious she's interested in both. She does have different dialogue with the genders tho. (They all do). The Karl thing makes sense to me but it's still poor form. Like Anders is clearly really into Hawke from the jump so I can see why with a femHawke he would omit that fact. It's kind of messed up but I can see why he did it. Still he should've mentioned it to both.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 3, 2017 19:29:21 GMT
I don't think they will ever make a bi character with actually separate paths for male and female players so I wouldn't really worry about 'encouraging' anything. If they changed the entire Addison scene over backlash then I don't think it's unreasonable to say they can probably fix the few wonky animations that would happen with bi Jaal. I'm not saying m/m players should be happy with a copy-pasted fixjob, even if they do make Jaal bi it just looks like insulting damage control, but a lot of people still want it and the alternative is to do nothing because you know they are not going to make dlc for this. Anders had differing male/female dialogue, and so did Isabela IIRC. Not in a GOOD way, mind you, in a "hide your bisexuality from the straights" sort of barf-inducing way But at least there's some precedent for gender-specific content. That said, I think you're right, and we're not gonna get any bi characters in ME:A with differentiated male/female content in the foreseeable future. *sigh* ? Isabela has different dialogue with a male yes but she doesn't hide her attraction to women whatsoever when you're playing MHawke. Anders main issue was skipping over mentioning Karl.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 1, 2017 17:40:21 GMT
Thank you! I've been confused about this debate for a while, glad it's cleared up. Well, at least now I can feel a bit better knowing I wasn't playing the uncut half of a bi romance. That might sound weird, but one of the annoying parts of bi romances for me is that they tend to write their dialogue to the PC gender-neutrally to save resources. But it seems a bit cheap and can come across as a little playersexual - like, they're not interested in this man/woman, they're interested the protagonist. If that makes sense. Adding gender-specific dialogue or attraction alleviates this. In Suvi's case, I honestly was starting to wonder if she was bi originally, because in addition to never mentioning her orientation, she never makes any remarks like "You're a remarkable woman", or "You're the woman I love" (something Dorian did but you know, "man" instead), or "You look lovely/beautiful* today", (something Cullen did). She does say "Sara" a lot though, which was nice. *Nothing wrong with calling a man lovely or beautiful, but for whatever reason those adjectives are usually used for women in writing. Funny how language changes, too. In Jane Austen's days, women were referred to as handsome. Ah, yes, the dreaded gender-neutral romances. Stellar examples are Theron, Lana and Koth in SWTOR. Say what you will about "the gay planet" with Rise of the Hutt Cartel, at least Lemda Avesta and Lord Cytharat were specific representations for lesbian and gay romances (sadly confined only to that expansion and they were never heard from again ). Theron, Lana and Koth are so gender-neutral that the only gay or lesbian thing about romancing them is the gender of the character you do it with. I adore Theron to heaven and back but couldn't he have at least 1 or 2 lines about him being in a relationship with a woman or a man? (I know asking for more specifics, like what he thinks about being in love with a Jedi *gasp* or a Sith *double gasp* is asking too much, even though it would be a great addition ). Same for Lana and Koth. That is just weird, along with not seeing that the 5 year skip between the main game and KOTFE and KOTET was probbaly the perfect opportunity to open up returning companions to new romances (mostly of the lesbian and gay variety, my male Imperial Agent has a bit of crush on Torian but, alas, he can't act on it ). Eh? That's sprinkled all throughout SOR. It's not in KOTFE and KOTET as much but yeah. You even get him giving you some crack about being your apprentice in SOR. "What and I'd be your apprentice? I'm into you but not that into you." and the conversation about Satele goes differently if you're Sith/Jedi/Non Force User. Also I'm pretty sure Lemda was bi not lesbian. That said you're right on the gender neutral front. I mean a few more mentions of the PC's gender (or race in Lana's case) wouldn't be that big of a deal. that said I admit I like the gender neutrality being reminded that I'm female every 10 seconds in Alistair's romance actually started to annoy me. Like I'm female we can see that. You don't have to constantly drone on about it like it's some revelation. Like Liam's romance is SUPER gender neutral and I love that about it. Especially since in my experience heavily genderized romances tend to stray into stereotypes and since I don't tend to mesh with those very well I end up disappointed to say the least.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 1, 2017 17:36:20 GMT
Eeek, that's... Well put it this way: I always get a little confused when there seems to be a lot of focus on female nudity in scenes ostensibly designed for straight women. Like Blackwall. Still, yay for cunning linguists, I guess? Man that bothered the hell out of me. Like why am I getting a nude shot of my PC and not even a hint of Blackwall's furry chest? I mean at least Bull's scene had them both in the buff if they weren't gonna imitate Cullen with him being nude and the PC being dressed.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 1, 2017 17:33:57 GMT
BansheeOwnage The Suvi tea scene happened to me at some point in the game, probably after Kadara but before Eladaan. I was playing as Scott and agreed with her about believing in a higher power, so we sort of had a friendship going. I did nothing else and never once flirted with her because I knew she was a lesbian. I don't know if I got a glitch or what, but I had the tea scene with no flirts, just by being a nice person. I'm sorry I don't have the specifics. Yeah my Scott got this scene too by being nice. I thought it was her equivalent to Cora's gardening scene?
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 27, 2017 16:24:33 GMT
Danse to me is more Soldier type of character than KISA. Preston in other hand was epitome of KISA for me in Fallout. In terms of DA, I think Sebastian has some knight-like qualities and shining armor, but he's not quite there. Cullen and Blackwall aren't quite there either for me even if they also have some qualities fitting for KISA. I just feel like Blackwall's redemption is still underway and Cullen hasn't let enough of his soldier tendencies. To me closes is Cassandra and if books are allowed Evangeline. Man I try to forget Preston and his barraging of my quest log. (I remember on release just walking past him lead to quest spam. Good grief).
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 26, 2017 17:41:15 GMT
ME3 Tuchanka really was one of the best parts in the series.
Then you go from that to the stupidity that is the Quarians and Geth >_>
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 23:58:32 GMT
Alistair gave me a rose once so, I had him executed at the Landsmeet. Some might say my reaction was a tad excessive. Just joking... or am I? I mean, Zevran flirts were like a third of the reason I always killed him off. The fact that his recruitment is supposed to happen after he tries to kill you is the other two-thirds. yeah that was the absolute worst way to introduce a companion. It's just so much no. And then his stupid self jokes about finishing the job later. No just...no.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 23:57:06 GMT
Man starting replaying Jade empire my god that clamped 30 fps was gaaarbage. How did I play that before it's feels awful compared to 60+ fps
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 23:44:14 GMT
(Why do all the conversations I can add to happen when I'm in class?) There's definitely a way to let Silk Fox down gently, but it takes a few conversations. You can ask her about her past, she'll ask you if you're interested in anyone at camp, and you can tell her, "I find Sky rather fetching." Then you apologize for leading her on - not great, but at least it's friendly. Dawn Star I dunno. I've heard people saying there's a nice way to turn her down, but I always hit a point where I'm either clearly flirting with her or being a jackass. Better to just crush her early, IMO. Dawn Star is super clingy too so I probably was mean to her but brushed it off because yeah. See now I wanna replay JE XD Furious Ming (He was really the only male body model I could stand under than the monk that you got in the special edition). That said I usually play CF and that usually nips most romances in the bud.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 20:10:13 GMT
Man I never picked Ashley. She either ninja'd me or my Shep and her spent all game taking pot shots at one another.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 19:16:20 GMT
Really? I swore there was a I'm just not interested option to Dawn Star and Silk Fox that I used on my OP character. (It is a super small window tho). The main issue is you completely need to exhaust Dawn Star and Silk Fox's dialogue before you reach the eternal companions conversation. I usually reject Silk Fox during her gift conversation I forgot about Dawn Star tho. I'd have to replay to remember that. The gift rejection is, from what I remember, pretty harsh though. I'll have to play it again myself, because this is the first time I'm hearing about this method. Hm I do tend to be blunt so maybe the harsh rejections just don't read as harsh to me. *shrug*
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 18:24:07 GMT
I dont know what's real anymore!!! :poker: I dont want to be a prick with them why :sob: Maybe that method works, that's the first time I heard about it, but I wouldn't want to avoid Sky for a chunk of the game (and possibly miss some of the dialogue) just to be nice. Plus I got tired of the game pushing those romances so hard, so I didn't regret being harsh once. Yeah and you end up rushing his conversations that way too. It's easier and faster just to shut them down hard rather than being super nice guy.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 18:11:42 GMT
I have yet to play this game, but my plan is to romance Sky with a guy without being an asshole to the women I don't think you can. After you get to the Imperial City, you have a small window, where you need to be a total asshole to both Dawn Star and Silk Fox, otherwise Sky will think you're interested in them. After that you get his "a stud like you rejected them, oh wow, my penis is tingling with gay desire suddenly, I need a moment" talk and you can progress. I always play a total marshmallow, so when I played so many years ago, I missed it (and didn't even think something like that would be possible). It is what it is. Really? I swore there was a I'm just not interested option to Dawn Star and Silk Fox that I used on my OP character. (It is a super small window tho). The main issue is you completely need to exhaust Dawn Star and Silk Fox's dialogue before you reach the eternal companions conversation. I usually reject Silk Fox during her gift conversation I forgot about Dawn Star tho. I'd have to replay to remember that.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 15:14:39 GMT
ah yeah, that sounds upsetting. merrill's such a sweet character, but there are lots of things about the way her storyline is written that make me side-eye the writers. stop trying to infantilise her. I feel the same way. There's only so much you can chalk up to lack of social skills and an unfamiliar environment. Yep she could've been socially awkward without literally having to use string to find herself in Kirkwall's streets. I mean really wasn't she dalish? Wouldn't her making trail marks on certain buildings and shops irritating the people there so she could find her way around make more sense?
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 9:17:00 GMT
Also, an automatic crossbow and a traditional longbow are pretty different Sera fires pretty much instantly as well.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 8:31:44 GMT
Well, I'd imagine if he made the decision to kill Anders without your input, it would be immediately after the explosion rather than waiting. By waiting for Anders to go sit on the box, it seems like he already decided to wait around to talk it out with you. He could try to do it once you refuse him, but it seems like at that point he'd know you'd probably try to stop him and he doesn't want to die. Oh goody, are we talking about people murdering Anders again? My Hawke would see Sebastian draw his bow, immediately realize what he was going to do, and set his face on fire before he could try anything. Problem solved? Honestly I'd be perfectly happy with that as an option as long as I could give him a thumbs up.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 8:21:54 GMT
Seb is not afraid of Anders. As for Anders standing there...he's not? He sits on his little box. Seb firing a quick shot considering Anders would be sitting there in a vulnerable position is not some strange feat. As for ideal place for an archer...uh Varric fires point blank shots all the time. That's not exactly unusual in DAO verse. Well, I'd imagine if he made the decision to kill Anders without your input, it would be immediately after the explosion rather than waiting. By waiting for Anders to go sit on the box, it seems like he already decided to wait around to talk it out with you. He could try to do it once you refuse him, but it seems like at that point he'd know you'd probably try to stop him and he doesn't want to die. You mean when he's busy giving his mages should be free rant? You really think an archer wouldn't be able to kill a stationary target at that moment? Anders isn't a god there's no reason Seb wouldn't be able to make that shot.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 8:07:31 GMT
Yep that whole scene I was just like "and why isn't there an arrow in Anders' throat/eye already?" for me at least that would've been more expected than him to scream at my PC to kill Anders. Bull I can get because the Qunari thing and him being used to getting orders. Seb tho? There really wasn't any excuse there other than either him being afraid of the Pc's retaliation (which is immediately thrown into question by him threatening to raze the city to the ground) or just not wanting to kill Anders himself (which I really don't buy.) Like that scene would've greatly benefited from Seb automatically firing an arrow at Anders and you saving him with an interrupt. Alas no interrupts for DA2. I mean, he might also just be afraid of Anders. It's not like he's incapable of defending himself. He just blew up a giant building, who knows how. Anders lets the PC decide his fate, but I doubt he'd feel the same about Sebastian, who he always hated. I think the problem with having it be an auto thing with Sebastian is that they're equals. Why would Anders just stand there and let Sebastian shoot him? Especially since Anders is already there with his staff and Sebastian would have to get his bow out and line up a shot. Not really the ideal position for an archer. Seb is not afraid of Anders. As for Anders standing there...he's not? He sits on his little box. Seb firing a quick shot considering Anders would be sitting there in a vulnerable position is not some strange feat. As for ideal place for an archer...uh Varric fires point blank shots all the time. That's not exactly unusual in DAO verse.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 5:33:42 GMT
If you play Trespasser, it becomes pretty clear that Solas is going to be a dominant factor in the sequel unless they do something really, really weird with it. Yep but sadly it wouldn't be the first time BW past on an obvious choice for a sequel. I doubt they will but they've made weirder decisions.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 5:06:36 GMT
Good Maras are good, but a smaller percentage of Maras are good compared with all other classes, and bad Maras are really bad. Yep I'm a garbo mara. I try so hard and get so far but in the end I don't break 2k dps (which is awful my god. Everytime I see my damage as Mara I want to curl in a ball) that said at least I respond to calls/make calls so I not completely worthless. Just mostly worthless I think I got 50k damage in a match once and was so confused as to how that happened. I think it was a voidstar too.
I love my deception sin/infiltration shadow tho. The hit and run thing speaks to me and the double bladed sabers are beautiful. I especially love my volatile derelict because it has this little pause when activating like my PC actually has to hit the button to activate it. So awesome. The only thing I can't stand is electronet. Like mercs don't need that anymore. T_T
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