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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 4:58:39 GMT
I don't think we ever found out if the Inquisitor has a functional elbow - it looks like a through elbow, or just above elbow amputation in the final scene, but the ending slides with the crossbow hand make it look like it might be below elbow, which would work better with historical prosthetics (although again, with magic maybe that's the wrong way to think about it?). I don't think we know for sure one way or the other. Yeah maybe if there's a love scene and the PC's nude and we'll see the arm completely but otherwise I don't think we'll ever see it. I kind of have a feeling Solas is going to go into hiding for the next game, so that they can avoid that whole confronting him with a new protagonist thing (it's hard for me to believe they'll break the pattern of new protags for each game now). And Hanako ninja'd me again but yeah if we're dealing with Solas I really want quizzy in the driver's seat.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 4:56:43 GMT
I think that the big two-handed weapons usually look dumb even when you use two hands for them; one hand would be even worse. And dual-wielding is dumb and nonsensical unless one or both of the weapons is a shorter blade, like rapier- or dagger-sized. also maras are squishy and stupid and they all have a brainlessly hyperaggressive standing-in-stupid playstyle that gets them killed Yeah I don't mind dual wielding daggers. Dual wielding long swords can look cool but is kind of impractical. Maras can wreck some face tho. That said the way they buffed mercs and engineering snipers (since god forbid MM get any love nvm that it's pure white damage which every single class can defend against now) is kind of gross. Let's give the two classes with the most CC potential even MORE tools because lawl. But let me not rant about the laughable balance of swtor's PVP here I could go on for hours. I just wish I didn't suck so hard at them. I have six maras you'd think I'd be decent but nope complete garbo.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 4:47:54 GMT
I just want my quizzy back because dealing with Solas as someone else is gonna suck and I don't want them to drag Solas' story out for several games.
Like Cory. Dealing with Cory as Quizzy was lame.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 4:42:38 GMT
There are real life precedents for sword-bearing prosthetics though, so that's easy enough to avoid. They could go that way with mages too, although looking at the current combat animation, a lot of the staff swinging is basically done in one hand with the off-hand for balance when they swing it in front of them, so it's not a huge stretch to make up some nonsense about them having a lighter staff or something that could be twirled consistently one-handed when moving forward (moving backward it's already one-handed). But then that would require distinct animation in cut scenes too, so I suppose a generic prosthetic would probably be more likely. But yeah, graphically Summoner had it easier since it came out in 2000 (incidentally in that game you were restricted to using one-handed weapons until the character got a prosthetic during the final act). For those big 2Hd weapons? Wielding that in one hand (or having that as a hand) is gonna look weird. That said yeah the staves can probably be worked around. I guess I'm just too used to the whole baton twirling XD Ugh I hate having to use 1hd weapons. Like I need to dual wield or spell cast. (I think swtor and PT is like the only class I can like that uses a 1hd weapon). I have no idea why but I gravitate towards every class except the single wielders.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 4:35:10 GMT
She and her crew were transporting a bunch of slaves to Tevinter when the ship was attacked by an Orlesian ship trying to stop them. In order to escape, she had all the slaves who were still chained up thrown overboard causing them all to drown. Well damn. She saves slaves or sacrifices them depending on the situation. Why would she do that? I thought she was deep down a good person. See that being the reason she stops being a slaver is far different than the whole "even I can see that's wrong." they feed you in DA2. One makes her have a heart of gold the other makes her someone who's trying to make up for a terrible crime they've committed. Why that was left in a side novel is beyond me. Edit: being the trope thief with a heart of gold. Not meaning she's some A+ person but that she has lines she won't cross.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 4:30:44 GMT
I used to like Isabela, before that comic came out. I still won't turn her over to the Qunari, because fuck them and their stupid book, but I would kill her myself if it was an option. What did she do in the comic? I don't read anything like that, that comes out for video games. Comics, books etc. Threw a bunch of slaves overboard still in chains to cover her tracks. I stopped liking her after that too. That's ice cold. Edit: And ninja'd.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 4:29:09 GMT
[Oh no they can. I think the spell's just weaker or less focused or something. I'm just saying combat wise the devs make the animations requiring a staff (since the Pc and the mage companions share animations). DAO was the only exception really. So either the PC would need unique animations (which I doubt they'd do) or they'd just give the PC the same animations as most of the party. Ah, cool. I'd think they could still use the same animations without it being too odd (especially if we imagine the Inquisitor would still be using their residual arm in the same way out of force of habit). The old Volition game Summoner had a main character who loses a hand mid-way through the game - they had the same animations before and after, just with a model that doesn't have the hand. I don't remember that looking too off (although it's been at least 15 years since I played it, so I might not be remembering it perfectly). I don't know the PC tends to use both hands on the staff so...maybe if they toned it down it'd work but DAI's animations would look weird with one hand. 2hd warriors have the same issue. Waving that big sword around with one hand would look ridiculous. Depends how good were the graphics and animations in general?
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 4:24:35 GMT
Yeah, she calls Diplo Rival Hawke a boring goody-goody, makes jokes about having to save children trapped in burning buildings, etc. Which is honestly why I felt like her leaving right before "Demands of the Qun" made so much sense. (Also, I got super emotional about it when I first played it and started crying.) But the whole point of Diplo Hawke Rivalmancing Izzy is pushing her to be a better person, which I thought made her coming back at the end of "Demands of the Qun" way more powerful. Even though Izzy thought that all Hawke's nice helpful stuff was sucker bullshit, some part of it grew on her, and she couldn't just turn her back on it (also presumably the sex was v good), so she returned to Kirkwall to save the day, and then Hawke got to save her in return, and no I don't need a fucking tissue it's just dusty in here. This is probably, on balance, a Bad Thing, because I am a sucker for Good Girl Tries To Save Bad Girl, which basically never works and is super unhealthy. Yep I remember some of that (especially the children trapped in burning buildings). It probably works much better with diplo Hawke (though I imagine the preaching gets worse). I really did screw up doing Izzy's rivalmance with red Hawke >_> I guess I should give it another try. (God I can't stand diplo Hawke tho. He's so bland. And snarky Hawke automatically ends up friends with Isabela because the friendship points overwhelm any rivalry I try to gain). That said yeah the sex was apparently that good I remember those banters lmao I'm more of a fan of corrupting/breaking the cutie myself which is awful for it's own reasons XD
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 4:19:19 GMT
I was actually fine with that (honestly I was more annoyed he mewed at my PC to do it instead of doing it himself) it's when he threatens to raze Kirkwall to the ground that I was all "...really?" Ahh yeah, ok I remember that now. It struck me as one of those moments in which I felt the player had too much (or rather, unwarranted?) power of choice in a situation. Like if someone had such strong feelings about the situation, why would he look to me to decide what do to? I felt similarly with the choice to save Bull's Chargers or not. When that option popped up, my first thought was "Wait, why is this my choice and not Bull's?" (other than the obvious answer of "It's a game and they wanted to give the player the illusion of control") Yep that whole scene I was just like "and why isn't there an arrow in Anders' throat/eye already?" for me at least that would've been more expected than him to scream at my PC to kill Anders. Bull I can get because the Qunari thing and him being used to getting orders. Seb tho? There really wasn't any excuse there other than either him being afraid of the Pc's retaliation (which is immediately thrown into question by him threatening to raze the city to the ground) or just not wanting to kill Anders himself (which I really don't buy.) Like that scene would've greatly benefited from Seb automatically firing an arrow at Anders and you saving him with an interrupt. Alas no interrupts for DA2.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 4:06:04 GMT
Nah I assume most hate Seb because after Anders Chantry Jenga he threatens to raze Kirkwall to the ground if you don't kill him. NVM that Kirkwall itself had nothing to do with the Grand Cleric's death. It's so dumb and it being followed up on in DAI just made me sad. I actually liked Seb. He was a bit of a stiff but he wasn't that bad I assumed he was just speaking out of anger but he actually follows through on that stupidity. This. He throws a tantrum and he can't understand why you'd be conflicted. If you and Anders were friends or lovers, don't you think you might not be ready to just kill him? But Sebastian don't care! I was actually fine with that (honestly I was more annoyed he mewed at my PC to do it instead of doing it himself) it's when he threatens to raze Kirkwall to the ground that I was all "...really?"
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 4:02:50 GMT
I'll have to look up mage Hawke / Fenris rivalmance again. I don't usually rival Sebastian though I don't like him. Makes my betrayal all the more sweeter hahaha I don't really have strong feelings for Sebastian one way or another (tho his letter re: Anders in DAI was annoying), but I did like how nice he was to Fenris in banter. Do most people hate him because of his half-assed romance or did I just not use Sebastian often enough to to get to know the parts of him that every hates? Nah I assume most hate Seb because after Anders Chantry Jenga he threatens to raze Kirkwall to the ground if you don't kill him. NVM that Kirkwall itself had nothing to do with the Grand Cleric's death. It's so dumb and it being followed up on in DAI just made me sad. I actually liked Seb. He was a bit of a stiff but he wasn't that bad I assumed he was just speaking out of anger but he actually follows through on that stupidity.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 3:59:25 GMT
Isabela is a little bit different with FemHawke generally. For example, when she first meets you in the tavern, she's more earnest to FemHawke than she is to Male Hawke. But that's regardless of whether you friendship or rival her. Oh that's a nice little touch. I heard her women are good for six things men for two banter. I wonder if it would extend to the rivalrymance... Wait, can mages without hands not cast spells in the DA universe? I know there are some fantasy scenarios that do that (the Powder Mage universe has that rule), but I can't remember having read anything specifically about it for DA - was it in the codex or one of the books? Either There could be some interesting places to go with that, but also some ways that they could deal with it very poorly... Oh no they can. I think the spell's just weaker or less focused or something. I'm just saying combat wise the devs make the animations requiring a staff (since the Pc and the mage companions share animations). DAO was the only exception really. So either the PC would need unique animations (which I doubt they'd do) or they'd just give the PC the same animations as most of the party. Isabela has a definite preference for Fem Hawke lol XD honestly I felt so unloved when I romaned her as dude Hawke. It really didn't help that I went aggressive rivalrymance. That was not a good choice.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 3:50:17 GMT
i've never done a rivalmance and nothing i've heard makes me want to. i adore all four LIs in DA2, did all their romances, and it's a little unbearable thinking of what a rivalry aspect to them might entail. i don't want to be mean to any of them!!! I really think Merrill's romance could have done with a better rivalry path where she shows some more backbone and there's more conflict. In the canonical one, it feels like she just kind of absorbs what Hawke is saying, which fuels her own insecurities. Isabela's rivalry romance is pretty good, though. Same with Fenris's. It's not for everyone, however. Is Isabela's romance different with femHawke? Because she kept calling my dude Hawke a bore and that put me so off. (Also made me think why she'd stick around someone she found a bore).
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 3:41:41 GMT
I talked about BW's romances behaviors being creepy in real life. If you're insulted by that then ignore because I'm not apologizing over something like that. If you really don't understand that I'm not talking about you but how game characters lives revolve around the PC and have a disgusting imbalanced relationship with the PC that's codependent and alarming then congrats on missing the point. No, you literally said "And I really don't find that romantic because most of that behavior is creepy/pathetic in real life." That went beyond discussing BW romances and into (unintentionally) calling people like me creepy and pathetic. Just admit it already. ...Most of that behavior being the romances I was talking about. Like if you really expect me to admit to saying something I didn't say so you can feel validated about taking something personally I'm not going to. Like you actually thought I meant being a romantic person was creepy in real life? You really can't see the difference?
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 3:40:27 GMT
The main issue though I guess is how they'd do it. If they just give Quizzy a mechanical arm in exchange and it works perfectly fine it could be seen as trivializing disabilities by some I suppose. (Which is kind of why I was pro the mechanical arm that has some severe flaws and several scenes in game that shows them working around said limitations). Though that could also be seen as just using it for drama. I think there are a huge number of ways they could do it - a mage Inquisitor wouldn't even need to wear a prosthetic. It would be interesting to see something like the crossbow prosthetic from the ending slides for an archer, or a shield arm for for a warrior, etc. If they had an arm with major flaws, I'd question why they needed to go that route when there's so much other magical technology floating around that works perfectly. That could easily feel like they were trying to make the character be more helpless which would be a questionable choice at best. Those different shield/crossbow hand do sound intriguing. Mage Inquisitor would tho. Staves are held in one hand and spells in the other and it's highly unlikely they'll give the PC unique spell casting animations. Unless they just add the staff to the hand. Well most magic has it's cost so if it did something like poisoned the PC it wouldn't be that surprising. Magic can't fix everything as that mage losing his eyesight in the DAO origin says.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 3:34:47 GMT
In a thread about BW games regarding the way they did those kind of romances. Why you INSIST on taking this personally is beyond me. I'm not talking about you. To be honest I don't know you from Adam so why you think I'd insult you is beyond me. Again just put me on ignore if you can't understand that very simple concept. I feel like I'm not the one who can't understand a simple concept. You completely ignored what I just said. You talked about real life, and indirectly insulted me personally. I explained that to you. Why are you denying it? Even if was just about Bioware romances, I'd still think you were being pretty condescending and superior. I talked about BW's romances behaviors being creepy in real life. If you're insulted by that then ignore because I'm not apologizing over something like that. If you really don't understand that I'm not talking about you but how game characters lives revolve around the PC and have a disgusting imbalanced relationship with the PC that's codependent and alarming then congrats on missing the point. That said I'm definitely being condescending and superior because that's exactly what I'm getting
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 3:33:07 GMT
I always wanted to try a rivalmance, because I heard Fenris' was hot, but I'm such a softie pushover and I always hated making my companions disapprove, ahahaha... So even though I liked the idea in theory, in practice I always friendmanced everybody. (Also i liked the challenge of being a mage and playing pro-mage, but still friendmancing Fenris and changing his mind on mages to some extent). The easiest non squicky way to do Fenris rivalry romance (without having to insult him or be cruel) can have you max his rivalry out really early on in act 2. (if you're willing to be a bit of a jerk you can have him maxed by act 1.) Take him on every single pro-mage quest and whenever you're dealing with slavers pick the middle option (not the immediate DIE option but not the goody goody let them go option. Fenris usually gets mad because you're not immediately stabbing them the slavers are idiots and attack you anyway so you get rivalry points without having to be pro-slavery). Just be really pro-mage and wishy washy on slavers this is easiest with snarky Hawke. Also do not talk to Fenris until he's a good deal in the rivalry bar (without finishing the chapter and losing those conversations) Fenris tends to give you more points on the path he's already on. (For extra points be a mage since you can get +25 rivalry right off the bat with troll Hawke).
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 3:26:51 GMT
Then just ignore me if you feel so insulted and that I'm being so awfully self righteous about how I feel about certain BW romances. Like I'm not even talking about your taste whatsoever. I'm saying how I feel BW does certain romances. You're the one jumping acting like I'm personally attacking you for some reason? Like just ignore me if it bothers you that much that's what the ignore function is for. You weren't just talking about Bioware romances. You also said that kind of behaviour is "creepy" and "pathetic" in real life. That means me. Is it really so hard to just say "we all like different things, and what I like isn't objectively superior to what you like"? If you can't, then yeah, I'm done. Doesn't seem that hard, though. In a thread about BW games regarding the way they did those kind of romances. Because yes I find they way they do them creepy and pathetic. Why you INSIST on taking this personally is beyond me. I'm not talking about you. To be honest I don't know you from Adam so why you think I'd insult you is beyond me. Again just put me on ignore if you can't understand that very simple concept.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 3:26:05 GMT
Playing a disabled protag would be so important to the world as a whole that I'm going to go against the grain and hope we DO play the Inquisitor again, but I doubt that will happen. Disabled people aren't allowed to have nice things. Only death. Yeah, there are too few disabled protagonists and I think the DA team could do a great job with it. Plus it offers the perfect solution to why the Inquisitor would start at Level 1 in DA4. The main issue though I guess is how they'd do it. If they just give Quizzy a mechanical arm in exchange and it works perfectly fine it could be seen as trivializing disabilities by some I suppose. (Which is kind of why I was pro the mechanical arm that has some severe flaws and several scenes in game that shows them working around said limitations). Though that could also be seen as just using it for drama.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 3:13:17 GMT
Since the aliens are so humanoid it does.
On the other hand if most aliens looked more like Geth and Hanar? Not so much.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 3:11:54 GMT
Yes but I'd need far far more different friendship/rival tracks than they have now. Thankfully they'd probably be able to do improved NPC and PC reactivity with the saved resources.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 3:06:04 GMT
Nope not digging myself deeper in anything. Those are many of the types of romances BW puts out. Sorry. Nothing wrong with liking junk food but let's not pretend it's a salad. (and please do not read me as mixing up actual well written healthy romances with the stuff we get in BW games.) Yes, you really are. I've tried to be civil and reasonable, and explain my point of view and why I was insulted, and for the third time in a row now you've been absolutely self-righteous in your belief to the point where you can't respect someone's tastes as different but valid. Then just ignore me if you feel so insulted and that I'm being so awfully self righteous about how I feel about certain BW romances. Like I'm not even talking about your taste whatsoever. I'm saying how I feel BW does certain romances. You're the one jumping acting like I'm personally attacking you for some reason? Like just ignore me if it bothers you that much that's what the ignore function is for.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 2:56:02 GMT
Wow, you are really digging yourself deeper. Having an opinion - not personally being a fan of a certain kind of romance - is perfectly fine. But it would be nice if you phrased your posts to reflect that rather than insisting that the kind I like is "childish codependent vomit". I don't like having to be this serious on this thread. I'd rather post gifs. Sorry. Nope not digging myself deeper in anything. Those are many of the types of romances BW puts out. Sorry. Nothing wrong with liking junk food but let's not pretend it's a salad. (and please do not read me as mixing up actual well written healthy romances with the stuff we get in BW games.) Not even sure why you're acting personally attacked either it's not something to get irritated over.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 2:40:59 GMT
i've never done a rivalmance and nothing i've heard makes me want to. i adore all four LIs in DA2, did all their romances, and it's a little unbearable thinking of what a rivalry aspect to them might entail. i don't want to be mean to any of them!!! Despite how I play my rivalmances it's quite possible to play a rivalmance without being mean to the LI. (Merrill is the easiest really as long as you don't lock her friendship in before you get the knife quest considering her friendship/rivalry scores reverse because of that). If you're willing to game the system to max out rivalry points easy and get it locked in you can then play the rest of the game without worrying about the points reversing or not being enough on you. (I really wish rivalry had just been restricted to certain dialogue options and the douchecanoe options had been on a separate scale). I usually just cheat with the save game editor when I'm playing like that tho. XD
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 25, 2017 2:39:10 GMT
I headcanon that my purple!Garrett romancing friendship!Anders is a close mirror to Varric and Bianca. We have the popular, easy going fun guy who is dating someone clearly not good for them and everyone wonders why they're together. It works for me because this happens in real life and it's not exaggerated to the point where there are no redeeming qualities to the sourpuss partner. And I think that my purple Hawke and Varric both subconsciously enjoy being the "fun one" in the relationship. And perhaps also think that they don't deserve any better. I RP my Hawke as vaguely self-loathing but deflects with humor. Yeah most of my rivalmancers (except my Fenris rivalmancers) are pretty bitter and hurt about their families being dead and blame themselves for it while clinging to their LI because their pretty much all they have left. Thedas needs some therapists stat. And yeah I never play my Hawke as the complete irredeemable bastard either because it's just not interesting that way. Those glimmers of what could be a healthy relationship but ultimately isn't because of the rest of the time is a disaster are much more satisfactory. My one aggressive Anders Rivalmance Hawke was just incredible in it's bull in a china shop factor tho. That said there's nothing I hate more than pointless manufactured drama (like buying really bad lies because my PC is apparently an idiot looking at you Blackwall) so I tend to stay away from that. But a character just being a bit screwed in the head and that influencing the romance is fair game. Like when Anders lied to my Hawke I was happy Hawke called him on it then Anders played the "if you loved me card." pretty much forcing Hawke into a corner. Also I love sad clown snarky Hawke. See I need some drama in my fictional romances. When things go to smooth I'm just like "What aliens are these people?" even if it's minor crap like arguing over who little habits that just annoy you like stop snoring in my ear. I need that bit of humanity and not everything is sunshine and roses cause we love each other so much.
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