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Post by notshauna on Apr 14, 2017 23:09:09 GMT
It's a game that's way too big for what they wanted to do with it. It's a common factor with both DA:I and this game that while they are very interested in the idea of building a new power from the ground up via resource gathering and exploration, they fail to write a central narrative about it. The game would of been better if the Kett weren't the antagonists instead the worlds themselves were. The game should of been more focused on the scourge and the Remnant vaults, since the majority of the game is interested in finding a new home for humanity (and those other races you the player liked)
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Post by notshauna on Mar 20, 2017 23:21:23 GMT
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Post by notshauna on Mar 20, 2017 3:59:10 GMT
It's a small point to make perhaps as an AI may be genderless. The VA for SAM is Alexia Traverse-Healy. It may be more proper to refer to SAM as a she. Unless SAM is referred to in game as a he. I haven't really heard anyone refer to SAM as gendered, but I read SAM as masculine so I used he instead of she (despite SAM's voice actor being a woman). Hell, I don't even think EDI had a gender, but she took the pronouns that others saw her as. I honestly don't see it as any different than the lines referring to Legion as a he, despite the fact the Geth are genderless. As far as I can tell I don't think SAM would care, so I'm going with he because it's the one I personally find more apt.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 20, 2017 3:36:43 GMT
Yeah it's really weird. Even outside of the weirdness of the fact he's there for the sex scenes he's also there for mundanities of life which includes no shortage of very personal experiences. SAM is there when Ryder is pooping. D: He's there for everything. I'm pretty sure they didn't think it through.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 20, 2017 3:30:53 GMT
SAM can feel everything we're feeling. Still uncomfortable with this fam. Yeah it's really weird. Even outside of the weirdness of the fact he's there for the sex scenes he's also there for mundanities of life which includes no shortage of very personal experiences.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 14, 2017 20:49:31 GMT
about the only one that irked me was Kaidan, because at the time I thought it was strange that a character that was originally straight only, became an option for male. The big problem I have with that in Mass Effect is the curious case of disappearing gay romance options in the first two games. Evidence points to the belief that the original LI's from Mass Effect were all available to either sex (as in there is a mod that restores the cut content of their same sex romance) and Mass Effect 2 has a lot of rumors abound over the cutting of gay romance. Long story short, is that I don't mind them turning around and saying that Kaidan is bi, just because they never explicitly said he was straight and they originally intended for him to be bi.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 14, 2017 20:30:56 GMT
Beyond the flings and the off ship romances, yes I think so. We're still missing confirmation of Jaal's sexuality and we're still missing information on off ship romances outside of probably Reyes, but the core is likely here.
I'm personally still predicting the 3/3/3/3 spread as the minimum so currently I'm placing it as this:
Straight Male Options: Vetra?, Peebee and Cora Gay Male Options: Gil, Reyes??, Jaal?? Straight Female Options: Jaal?, Reyes??, Liam Gay Female Options: Suvi, Vetra?, Peebee
This still leaves the question on whether or not we get other non-ship romances and flings, both of which are likely going to imbalance the 3/3/3/3. But, I believe 3/3/3/3 is the goal they set out to do given the requirement of the Paramour Achievement.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 10, 2017 16:21:05 GMT
ONCE AGAIN, they're more than happy to confirm another romance option for Scott, but God forbid they give us any info about who Sara can romance. "Not giving out any romance info" my ass. Yeah... it's not even just official romances, the characters we've heard we can romance albeit not super officially are also all likely for Scott, Vetra and Jaal. Hell the two suspected gay crew mates are the only known named crew mates without so much of a picture of them. I gave them the benefit of the doubt, it made sense to confirm Cora as the obligatory male player option but, Peebee? Why would you double down on the inequity especially for such an obvious romance. Like she literally hits on Ryder within seconds of meeting them.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 8, 2017 21:03:53 GMT
"Turians don't swim, we sink." Quote from Garrus. I think it has to do with their plating, too much metall in it, I guess. Pity there likely won't be any swimming in MEA, it would make for some funny scenes with Vetra. Everyone is enjoying themselves in a pool and poor Vetra stands 3m away, arms crossed and tries not to come too close to the water. Krogan probably couldn't swim either, so at least Drack can join her in the kiddie pool. Of course we don't know if Jaal can swim or not, but given the design of the Angara I'd suggest they probably can.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 7, 2017 23:12:39 GMT
The thing is, this way of doing it disadvantages LGBT people the most. How many LGBT consumers are gonna buy the game expecting, idk, an m/m squadmate only to get a rude awakening in-game? As rude as this is going to sound, straight people don't have to worry that their sexuality's not going to be represented or have their straight relationships represented or have straight characters' depiction reflect all people of that group. Don't get me wrong, I agree it sucks and I'm certainly not happy with the decision I can at least understand it. Sure, it screws us over but, realistically we're going to play the game regardless. Remember we're in the 5% of players that actually post on forums and engage with the community and even among people who are engaging in the Mass Effect community not all of them care about romance, and many more don't care about them beyond the existence of straight romance for Scott. I don't know whether or not the confirmation of Suvi or any other example as a romance would end up being a net negative in terms of income, but sadly I think it probably is.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 7, 2017 20:45:12 GMT
yourfunnyuncle hope is a dangerous thing, you say this stuff and I'll believe there is a chance again. *sigh* It's better to get over this disappointment now then mid-point in the game. Blergh, wtf couldn't they just announce the bloody options like they've always done? This marketing campaign is terribad, except for the Andromeda Initiative briefings, really liked them. The marketing has been pretty bad across the board but, I at least understand why they've hidden the romance options, as the announcements led to some disappointment and negative press from idiots and/or bigots. From a purely business sense it's very likely a good move as it allows them to wait until they've sold the game to tell people what they don't want to hear. The belief is that more people will not buy the game if they announce the romances than the people who will if they do, and sadly they're almost certainly right. It sucks that we're getting the run around but, unless it hits the bottom line it's very likely to fall on deaf ears.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 6, 2017 15:37:36 GMT
Interesting that some of you liked the Cullen romance. Do you generally find it easier to RP as your own gender and romance someone you wouldn't normally find attractive or to RP a different gender in order to romance someone you fancy who has a different sexual orientation? I personally find it easier to play as a woman and do a lesbian romance than to RP as a gay man, although I did like Dorian's romance. I almost exclusively play female characters, to the point where I honestly don't think I've ever played a male character in a post Jade Empire Bioware game. So, I can't really talk about the experience of roleplaying a gay man, not in video games. In D&D I've played pretty much every type of character, but it's pretty different from electronic RPGs. As for whether I'd choose to play a straight man or a straight female, I personally find myself playing a straight female much more often. But, I'm panromantic so even if I'm not sexually attracted to male characters, I can usually find myself enjoying it if they're emotionally attractive.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 5, 2017 20:54:20 GMT
Personally, I've never been too bothered by the fact Traynor was made in the CC tool a opposed to being handcrafted nor the fact she wasn't a squadmate. I really only care about the quality and quantity of the content, and I've seen nothing that makes me worried in that regard. That being, said I wasn't exactly satisfied with Traynor in the base game, as their simply wasn't enough content, but as I've said before that's true about every romance not named Liara.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 3, 2017 23:11:02 GMT
Yeah I totally forgot about her, but Mass Effect was made pre-EA buy out, so it had a MUCH lower budget. Now they have a the luxury of fancy voice actors.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 3, 2017 21:48:07 GMT
They have a similar accent sure but I can't say definitively that it sounds like her. Not to mention the major character VAs tend to voice minor characters as well so this could be a case of that. They do so with major characters very hesitantly. Outside of Mark Meer as the Vorcha and M.Shep and John Curry as Zevran and american male inquisitor, I can't think of any times within the same franchise much less the same game. And in both cases the VO's were VERY different, much more than this and Suvi probably will be.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 3, 2017 21:44:22 GMT
It's almost certainly Suvi, as it sounds JUST like Katy and the VO is for a character with a similar role. As for whether or not the redhead is Katy, well I'd say less likely but still probably, this is the opening of the game so it makes a lot of sense to introduce the major non-squadmate characters. Think of how the first 30 minutes of Mass Effect introduce you to so many characters, this seems much the same. I'd also put money on the person speaking just before Alec is Gil.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 2, 2017 21:05:56 GMT
And if you take away Citadel DLC content, there's not that much content in the romance in general. To be fair, other non-squadmate romances in ME3 were like that too, but at least some of them were returning characters anyways that had a full romance in a previous game. I hope Suvi has significant content without counting DLC stuff. Yeah but, personally I think it's just that Mass Effect 3, didn't really care about the romances. I mean outside of Liara, none of them really got treated with much care in Mass Effect 3. Hell, even Tali barely got any consideration in Mass Effect 3.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 2, 2017 20:53:32 GMT
Ugh, the Traynor romance... I like Traynor, but man was it sloppy. I do like it in Citadel though, but that's pretty much true for any of the romances continued in the game.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 2, 2017 19:16:20 GMT
It's going to be a gameplay video like the combat ones they did the last couple weeks, so at most we may see her in a brief scene. Hell, it'd be easy to include both of them, either in this one or the final initiative briefing, which would kind of excuse the silence (much like how they didn't talk about Jaal until recently).
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Post by notshauna on Mar 2, 2017 3:35:10 GMT
I dunno, the DAI romance leaks from Daveliam were pretty spot on and he's one of the ones telling us the andromeda leaks now. I'm not the most familiar with his leaks in particular, just saying that even leaks that contain factual information often times contain false ones, whether by hoaxes being correct or them being red herrings or earlier versions. For example going back two years ago in Magic the Gathering a fake version of a new planeswalker named Ugin, the Spirit Dragon was "leaked" it had the correct art, which was previously never before seen and it accredited the correct artist, but it had formatting errors and other peculiarities, which lead people to concluding it was fake. As far as I know it's never been explicitly confirmed what it was, whether it was an earlier version of the card or a red herring, or a particularly industrious hoax, but it containing genuine signal along with the noise, just like other leaks. Even the leakers that I trust the most and know the most of end up being wrong frequently.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 2, 2017 2:10:21 GMT
I've read various leaks, had info pm to me about what our options will end up being. It does not look good for m/m players, I really really hope that info is incorrect. Jesus Christ, talk about regressing if true. The thing with leaks is that most of them are either completely fake or partially fake. Even legitimate leaks have a low signal to noise ratio, and the vast majority are hoaxes or speculation wrapped up as fact.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 2, 2017 1:50:28 GMT
We have better luck with the bi romances in ME, sad, but we do yup. Since it's shared content. Signs look promising for a bi Vetra, hope remains gang. Cora is a lost battle tho lmao. Predictable Bioware is predictable. Sadly, you're probably right about Cora, but it's not impossible. But, I will admit that the only way we could get both is with some profound inequity towards Scott players, so it's not even something I can hope for.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 2, 2017 1:09:42 GMT
But we never had a human f/f squadmate before, we're looooong overdue a KISA type. Bioware srsly. :srs: Plus she's my type, I have a personal interest here. As for Vetra, I just don't find Turians attractive, at all. Still hope you gals get her tho. Admittedly, I'm fine with either Cora or Vetra, I mean I'd personally prefer Vetra but, it's not up to me. Now if both of them are m/f romances I'm going to be annoyed, but it's not a deal breaker, I did play Mass Effect 2 after all. But, sadly the reality of the mass effect romances is that gay romances are hyper underdeveloped due to them being all but cut in the first two games, so there is still a lot of work to be done before the gay romance quality catches up.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 1, 2017 22:50:11 GMT
And there is the crux of the issue for me, the odds of having two straight women is very low with the currently expected number of romances, so either there is a lot more that we don't know about or Vetra and Cora won't both be straight. It's hard to say x number will be straight/bi/gay since we don't know the total number of romances or if they are even evenly distributing the squadmate ones. I'm sure they aren't distributing the squad mate ones, but I'm sure that the major ones were created with balance in mind. Now I don't think it's going to be perfect, especially not when you include the minor romances, but Vetra and Cora both being straight is quite the imbalance. While it's possible that they're both straight, it would suggest that one of them were added after the balance was reached (the 6 person spread that they focused on in Inquisition) and I doubt either of them were. Basically, the reasoning is that certain characters are going to be priority romances, for example Liam, Cora and Peebee were almost certainly intended to be romances from moment one, and that undoubtedly effected their roles. That leaves the remaining three and I do think that both Vetra and Jaal are among them.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 1, 2017 22:15:42 GMT
Well, I will be mostly ok with Vetra being for MaleRyder but only if Cora is bi. And there is the crux of the issue for me, the odds of having two straight women is very low with the currently expected number of romances, so either there is a lot more that we don't know about or Vetra and Cora won't both be straight.
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