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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 20:59:45 GMT
Keri being a second bi asari romance would be over kill too. I mean I expect it to be a fling, but I seriously doubt it'll be a real romance. Considered they have a popular actress voicing Lexi who is an Asari, it just seems weird for them to have a random Asari be another option for a romance.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 20:51:38 GMT
Not since the Baldur's Gate days. Ahh, the good ol' days where you could stuff your baby in a backpack! Nowadays, parents just put them on a leash.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 20:48:48 GMT
Remind me of Dragon Age Inquisition, I didn't have any option, so I ended up going straight for Cassandra. I turned straight for the first time in a Bioware game for her. lol. Inquisition options were pretty terrible for me. Something they could have remedied easily if they had ended up including Cullen instead of cutting it out at the last minute. I romanced Cullen first, but I wasn't really satisfied since he wasn't in my team so I tried with Cassandra and it was amazing, but... I couldn't marry her So I tried Sera and as much as I adore her, she's ok as a friend. The only BW character that ever fully satisfied me was Liara and she was my very first f/f romance. lol, that was my biggest complain when romancing Cassandra. The game does seem a bit biased toward female Inquisitor in that game, they have extra option, and both of the marriage options are only available for female Inquisitor, Sera and Cullen. Meanwhile, Cassandra who is all about romantic and lovey dovey stuffs didn't get marriage despite her being the perfect candidate to get married to. The only Bioware character I was semi satisfied is Kaidan, but then they have to copy and paste and cut out a bunch of scenes from him. I'm hoping Jaal will be better in this regard.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 20:36:42 GMT
Remind me of Dragon Age Inquisition, I didn't have any option, so I ended up going straight for Cassandra. I turned straight for the first time in a Bioware game for her. lol. Inquisition options were pretty terrible for me. Something they could have remedied easily if they had ended up including Cullen instead of cutting it out at the last minute.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 20:24:59 GMT
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 20:19:21 GMT
Flynn already did answer directly on Twitter that Gil is not Gay!Scott's only option. Which is very nice. I still "only" have two options though. Liam is growing on me, but still. I feel like gay men and straight women share the same fate when it comes to another option. If there is another option, it will likely be shared by both because the trophy required 3 different romances and it would be strange when they could easily allow both to achieve it but only limit it to one orientation. Then again, stranger things have happened like with Cullen. lol
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 16:56:06 GMT
I think the thing with Gil and Suvi is, do they not have sex scenes because the romance doesn't include sex, or just because the sex is implied with fade to black? Seems more like not wanting to dedicate resources to gay romances than putting it in for asexual people, if it's the latter. But we'll have to wait and see what we really get. Its probably a resources thing considering they are just extra romances. That is why crew is just not as good as squad romances. I don't think it is intentionally to slight gay people. They want to give gay people options, they don't want most people to miss out on content so they make a majority of the crew bi. but not all of them because they had all those complaints in DA 2. I don't know. I think it has more to do with the fact that they are crew then anything. Maybe it will be like Josie and sex isn't implied really and it is up to the player to interpret the relationship themselves. I hate that but you know whatever. I think it is a good middle ground for the smaller player base who want asexual relationships and people who like getting nasty. I doubt it has anything to do with asexual, especially when it only exclusively gay characters and both being non-companions. I also don't see why it wouldn't a problem to program since the males and females share the same body structure, DAI characters if you strip them down all have the same body like Dorian, Cullen, Blackwall etc. If there is a resource problem, I don't see why there is a justification of having 3 extra female romances, 1 who is a full option while the other two are flings. It's as a weak excuse as Star Wars the Old Republic where they have multiple romances for male characters and yet not even one for gay character, which they used the excuse of wanting to do it right, ended up being everyone being bisexual whenever they add flirts and options for the same sex.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 16:19:46 GMT
One of the credible early leaks said Gil's would be fade to black, I think. (Maybe I'm misremembering or maybe he has a sex regardless) The only gay companions are the one with fade to black and no sex scene and gay romances have the least options, ME team is clear with their message here...
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 16:12:27 GMT
[ SEES WORDS "2BONE MODEL"] [ WINCES INTENSELY] So, uh, without spoilering scenes (I'm skipping through pages with half-closed eyes here, guys) are there any LI's that don't jave this 2BONE model?? Gil and Suvi. Not guarantees tho, I may have skipped them somehow. So they don't have a sex scene then?
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 15:49:43 GMT
Your father is actually the mailman.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 3:07:19 GMT
It's annoying how they require us to romance 3 times for a trophy but don't provide enough options for everyone to romance 3 different romances.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 3:04:41 GMT
What do you mean by the way they advertised her? They made a big deal about who voiced her. Also they made her seem like a "traditional asari" if you will. I see. If anything, I thought Peebee is being advertised as your "traditional Asari" squadmate like Liara. She's super buddy buddy with you, they showed her off sleeping with broryder in early trailers. I can see why you're disappointed with Lexi not being an option though, she could be the new Samara. You couldn't pursue Samara until ME3. I'm just a bit worried about whether Drack and Lexi become an item, it would make a chance to romance her in the future to be less likely.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 2:56:49 GMT
Unless it's super hidden and triple encrypted to stump dataminers because, well... "reasons", they dun fucked up.
This time I want to know though. I need to know what the exact actual fuck they were thinking when they came up with this and who signed off on it. I suspect we still won't get a straight answer until after release, and maybe never to the second part. But at that point I will calmly request that someone with a line to the writers (i.e. twitter) ask them precisely what their major malfunction is.
That's pretty much all I want at this point. Whatever their reason.....it's B.S. The way the advertised her.....how could they not make her a romance option???? What do you mean by the way they advertised her?
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 1:47:06 GMT
This time it's only if you reject a squadmate/crew mate it seems. I hope this is the case. *looks worriedly at Lexi and Drack* You can't reject either Lexi or Drack since none of them are LIs. I don't think it's possible to prevent them getting together.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 1:45:09 GMT
Maybe it's just me, but Avenger Strike, Energy Drain and Sticky Grenade. Sound like the entire act of sex.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 1:41:17 GMT
I have a feeling that if Shepard were dead, Liara would already have Shepard's child after the "melding" on Earth. Yep. After that scene.. It's like feeling like the condom broke. What did I just agree to? haha Child support and a spot on the Maury show.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 1:26:16 GMT
I headcanon Grunt and Liara eventually getting together and live together for hundreds of years LOL, Grunt will always be my femShep and Liara's adopted son :lmfao: Little blue children having such cool bro I have a feeling that if Shepard were dead, Liara would already have Shepard's child after the "melding" on Earth.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 1:23:48 GMT
Nah Garrus should've been bi because his reason for going for Shepard is literally If It's You It's Okay. Like. come on now! Tali has the same issue. It's not like they expressed attraction to other members of Shep's gender. It's Shepard. Literally Shepard that they're flagging the OK for. And since Shepard and FemShep have no differences outside of gender it's like...so...why aren't you an option? But that would still make him bi, is my point. Even if he prefers women, had he gone for a male Shepard, it's because he's at least slightly attracted to men. Which would've been cool. My point is had Garrus been an option for a male Shepard, it's because he's bisexual. Not a straight turian who happens to fall for a human who happens to be male, but it's okay 'cuz physiology. It's kinda like saying gay guys and straight girls should consider Vetra a valid option, cuz she's a turian. Not saying I wouldn't necessarily ever romance Vetra. I think she's a cool character. But in that case I'm roleplaying a bi or lesbian Sara, not a straight one. Tali was totally into Femshep. I think that was the biggest missed opportunity for polygamous relationship in any Bioware game. or maybe Isabella and Merrill.Oh, I totally think Tali should've been an option for femShep too. The whole suit-linking conversation? Totally seemed headed that way. Always seemed weird to me they cut that off before it became a romance. ... And there's that whole drunk conversation she has with herself. I'd still argue that that would mean Tali was bi though, not straight-but-it's-Shepard so she's making an exception. Especially where quarians are supposedly similar physically to humans. And I have to say, I tend not to have any interest in poly relationship in games... but that's one I could actually see being kinda cute. Yep! Mordin was fine with saying he'd do male or female Shepard if he ever wanted to try it. It was because it's Shepard to him, not male or female Shepard. I think this might be a case where we all just have to agree to disagree here. I guess I just don't buy into the whole 'if it's you it's okay' trope. Just make 'em bi so everyone can be happy! No further explanation needed. We need to look at Bioware's intention for making sexuality a certain ways. Especially when a lot of the time, it's not even because they're intended to be of a certain sexuality, it's because characters may be too popular like Garrus, time constraint like Cullen (they recorded the files, Iron Bull was supposed to be race gated because of technical difficulty, not because he's intended to only attracted to certain races), or unfortunate implication like Solas (Depraved bisexual). It's not even because certain characters are intended to be straight, it's not like Dorian who was written to be gay, a lot of these characters are intended to be of certain sexualities due to convenience rather than authenticity.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 1:20:07 GMT
I felt like the biggest downfall to romancing Garrus was that Tali would be alone. I'm sure Tali would have ended up with somebody regardless. Just assume she met some nice turian or quarian guy a year or two after the game ended and settled down. Just because characters don't get with someone over the course of the game doesn't mean they are automatically doomed to die alone and unloved. ME companions need Shepard's magical penis to be happy. Still, I'm 90% sure she wouldn't be with a Quarian, she's fascinated with interspecies relationship.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 1:13:24 GMT
Shepard basically disappears or dies in 3/4 ending, there is nothing to prevent Garrus and Tali getting together after Shepard is dead. Most of the companions will probably move on, I don't know why people think Tali would be alone. They may not form relationship during the missions, but many of them will move on, dating, or get married after ME3. Hell, Kaidan even went on a date with a girl his friend set him up, Jacob cheated on Shepard and got a baby mama, etc. People will move on eventually, especially if Tali didn't form a relationship with Shepard, nothing holding her back from dating and marriage.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 0:43:54 GMT
Questing with our LI next week like...
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 0:34:48 GMT
Anyone notices that ALL the aliens are bisexual? I think it makes more sense for aliens to not hung up on human's gender since their sense of aesthetic is very different from humans as demonstrated by the bachelor party, what the turian considered attractive was the ridge of the asari, etc. It would make sense for aliens in general to be open to relationship with humans. I think it's a more conscious thing on the part of devs; the first two are always human, always male and female, always straight. Plus we haven't seen any evidence that bisexual aliens are any more common than bisexual humans. Sexuality I think is assigned to characters with the fan base in mind... put the gays in the hold, make the straights front and center, etc. What I mean is that could easily justify it and considered there are more species, they wouldn't be able to include all the romance for every alien race in every game, by making them bisexuals, it would allow more people to have access to that alien race of a particular gender, which negate the need to create 2 Asari romances or 2 male Turians just for the sake of the romance. Still, this game seems mirror previous games with "Kaidan" and "Ashley" being straight, "Kaidan" being a bi companion with "Cortez" being the gay non-companion. I wonder if it's intentional.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 0:27:48 GMT
The only thing that annoyed me in that scene was why was my adept Shepard so ripped. I swear he was smaller in ME1 and ME2. What happened in Alliance lockup? Forced workouts out made him grow bigger pecs, of course. Just like F!Shep grew bigger boobs.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 0:25:42 GMT
Anyone notices that ALL the aliens are bisexual? I think it makes more sense for aliens to not hung up on human's gender since their sense of aesthetic is very different from humans as demonstrated by the bachelor party, what the turian considered attractive was the ridge of the asari, etc. It would make sense for aliens in general to be open to relationship with humans.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 0:00:29 GMT
I mean things like Shepard straddling Kaidan's lap or Kaidan carrying Shepard to bed. If thins like that are to be done in m/m relationships, it can be very easy to fall into some homophobic tropes if it's not done carefully. Ah, gotcha, well tbh I think stuff like that (especially the carrying, barf) shouldn't occur in m/f romances either. That's the game deciding what kind of character you're playing... whether they're male OR female. There are several problems with it, because one of Bioware developers stated that Bisexual relationships take just as many efforts to program as a monosexual relationship, despite reusing the same scenes, instead of replacing them with new ones, they straight up cutting it, making it obviously less effort to program. Still, there are guys find it romantic to be carried, it seems like they're imposing what is acceptable and unacceptable behaviors between gay relationship like if it appeared as awkward but then acceptable for females. I find a lot of problems with how they handled Kaidan to be honest.
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