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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 23:56:00 GMT
Interestingly, Theron from SWTOR does get jealous if you talked about how attractive another woman is. Too bad our characters are not as self awareness as the LI. Iron Bull talks about banging maidens everywhere really puts a screw in romancing him as a guy. Meh he talks about how hot Dorian is constantly so it's not much better as a female. If you're not willing to listen to Bull leer over other people he's not the LI for you XD Dorian and Iron Bull don't start flirting unless they're both free and you're in a relationship though while Iron Bull banging maidens are basically throughout the game. The female NPCs talked about it, companion banter talked about it, Iron Bull talked about it.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 23:36:24 GMT
And besides, it would really feel like Jaal was meant primarily for women, and men are the afterthought. That doesn't feel nice, BW already has a problem with bisexual men who seem mostly blind about other men than the PC himself.This has been one of my biggest issues in m/m content in Bioware games! There have been eight bisexual guys in Bioware games (prior to ME:A). I've done 6 of those romances: Sky, Zevran, Anders, Fenris, Kaidan, & Bull. I believe that only Zevran and Anders has ever expressed any interest in men other than the PC. And both of them were with past lovers and Anders never even brings it up to LadyHawke. I've never done the Theron or Koth romances in SWTOR, but I did watch the youtube videos of their romances and I don't remember them doing it either. In the meantime, I have to watch my active LI Zevran flirt with every female that we come across and then spend a half hour talking about Wynne's tits in front of me. It's a huge pet peeve of mine. Interestingly, Theron from SWTOR does get jealous if you talked about how attractive another woman is. Too bad our characters are not as self awareness as the LI. Iron Bull talks about banging maidens everywhere really puts a screw in romancing him as a guy.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 23:33:10 GMT
Considered how much Kaidan scenes were cut down since it was based on femShep (cheek touching, holding hands in casino, sitting on top of Kaidan), it would be pretty much a dick move of ME team of not only gives the gay guys 2 options, one is a non-companion while the other is basically femprotagonist's copy and paste once again. It was "pretty much" a dick move the first time. It would be a TOTAL dick move the second time! Also, just to clarify, I'm not saying it WILL be cut down. Just that the last bisexual male squadmate in an ME game had trimmed down romance scenes with the male PC compared to the female PC. No one has seen the Scott/Jaal scene yet (assuming that there even is one because it's not confirmed still, remember) so no one knows what it will be like. Third time the charm, ME5 in 2022, 1 noncompanion gay and 1 bisexual stolen from femprotagonist. You heard it here first, folks.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 23:11:10 GMT
Considered how much Kaidan scenes were cut down since it was based on femShep (cheek touching, holding hands in casino, sitting on top of Kaidan), it would be pretty much a dick move of ME team of not only gives the gay guys 2 options, one is a non-companion while the other is basically femprotagonist's copy and paste once again.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 21:22:30 GMT
That's pretty unfair to gay men and straight woman. I'm straight, but I am fine being bi. I love Vetra, but still it seems off. BW was fair only once - in DA2. There's Sebastian. I don't think Bioware has ever released a game where all the romance options were truly equal.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 15:11:44 GMT
So, Jaal thread, I don't think you need to worry about anyone on the team hating Jaal. I think I may have just found the conflict. Liam and Vetra haven't had a single civil banter yet. I thiiiink they may hate each other! Former cop and a former mercenary? Makes sense! Add a talking monkey and we got a sitcom.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 15:08:32 GMT
He married a Filipino guy and eloped oversea?
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 15:03:29 GMT
I think we should just resign to the fact that gay players will never have more options than other groups. Lesbian may get benefit from being grouped with straight men like if there are more bi options (lesbians are hot), lesbian players will benefit. Straight females often will also being looked after since they also a major buyers and Bioware could pull the equality card. Gay players will always have less options, even if the majority of the characters are males like DA2 and DAI, most of the options still go into straight females while in ME series, most of the options go to straight males. It's just better to resign at this point that we will ALWAYS have less options. XD
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 14:56:50 GMT
Uh, straight females should have the same. From the datamine, there is 1 more main (counted as achievement) male romance option on the nexus. Will be open to both you and the gay scott ryders. Reyes is also confirmed to be your fling option (but not main). We were told the nexus one isn't a key romance like the others? How do you know its male? There is also aya_relic, right? Did they say both Nex_Doctor and Aya_relic to both not unlock the romance trophy?
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 14:37:27 GMT
Hmph. Sorta-spoilerish, so actual thoughts are under the cut, but it is practically MP content. There's one character there, male angara (gold one, not n7). I got him from one of free crates and then actually bothered to look at his passives. This one. It seems that angara possess natural bioelectrical abilities judging from his passives. And angara resistance actually trains them to use it properly. Should I be worried about Jaal suddenly shining at night or being cat-like and trying to kill me with static electricity? Just don't own any carpet.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 14:33:08 GMT
I have never liked any exclusively gay characters they give us in Bioware games. I'm happy for those who enjoy them but I can't change how I feel. ME seems to put in minimal efforts when it comes to gay options compared to DA, but I guess each team has different priorities. At the end of the day, it's all about sales after all. I can't really fault them for that.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 14:28:07 GMT
Instead of a bunch of flings, would it kill them to add one of them as an actual options? Like Reyes, Doctor iCarly? I don't see the point of small flings if they could just pour the resource into an actual romance instead and everyone will have 3/3/3.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 14:13:53 GMT
So gay men and straight women are gonna get only two proper options? *sighs* I knew the lack of males was getting suspicious. Didn't the datamining point toward another codename for romance? We just didn't know who it is yet. Something about a doctor?
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 14:11:37 GMT
Who know? She could be another Samara where the romance carried over from previous games, assuming there is a sequel to it. I think it's just the issue of Peebee and Lexi both being Asari and they have never had a fantasy race of the same gender being romanceable twice in the same game. With so many alien races, I'm assuming Bioware's thinking would be that if instead of giving content to another Asari, it could go into a female Turian like Vetra. Bioware's done it with elves before, though admittedly not with Mass Effect. They did? I only remember Fenris and Merrill which are opposite genders, there are still variety and they appeal to different sex groups. Peebee and Lexi are both appealing to the same group, so I was just thinking they could add more variety to the alien romance by having a different alien race like female Turian with Vetra. With so many races in ME, I doubt they could give every race a romance, so they usually have to spread out, even dwarf didn't have a romance yet in DA.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 14:03:49 GMT
If she's allegedly interested in Jaal. Certainly it'll motivate me to pursue her quickly to cut that branch off. Ah, got it. I won't romance her in my first, so I don't have a problem is she ends up with Jaal, as Lexi for Drack (although in this case I'd have liked the option to romance her for those interested in her). Who know? She could be another Samara where the romance carried over from previous games, assuming there is a sequel to it. I think it's just the issue of Peebee and Lexi both being Asari and they have never had a fantasy race of the same gender being romanceable twice in the same game. With so many alien races, I'm assuming Bioware's thinking would be that if instead of giving content to another Asari, it could go into a female Turian like Vetra.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 13:51:40 GMT
I can finally be happy alongside with everyone with Jaal reveal, instead of being happy for everyone with Cullen. I basically turned straight in DAI since I didn't like any of the options.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 13:46:16 GMT
I'm pretty sure there is another option based on the datamining for the gay guys and straight women. We just don't know who it is since they used a code name for it. DAI was pretty uneven toward straight women just as ME3 was uneven toward straight men. I have a feeling that they try to provide 3/3/3 this time around and everyone would have at least 3 options. Reyes is confirmed to be a fling, but you could flirt around with him but he'll break up with you later on.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 9:16:20 GMT
ME Andromeda needs to have Preston to remind them about colonies being under attacked.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 7:31:06 GMT
Heavy spoilers under cut. Jien is dead. Lexi is unromanceable. Kallo seems unromanceable too. Reyes isn't counted as "romance" in their system while 2 other options do (aya_relic and nex_whatever, can't remember the second word - and yes, those are probably quest names, with romanceable NPCs tied to those quests). He still can be flirted with tho. At least. Just probably won't give you an achievement. And, finally, I don't think I can help you with Tiran - wasn't among "romance" options for sure unless he's part of nex_whatever. Dissapointing, but not entirely unexpected. Kallo will become my Cole of MEA then, from what it looks like I was a bit confused about Cole. They said he's too young to date since he has the mind of a child but then go and ship him off with the bard girl.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 7:09:19 GMT
Jaal seems like a warrior and a general of his race, he seems to fit that description, still, I want my Cullen and my Alistair, I want a medieval knight. lol
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 7:04:34 GMT
Thank you for saying this, although I've seen you say it a few times. I know some of us m/m players from the Gil thread that were huge Jaal fans felt a little uneasy about going to the Jaal thread after the big blow up between here and that one. Even though I only saw the fallout, it was disorienting. I feel a lot better about it since, seeing you being supportive and so many other people in there being supportive. I'm glad the situation with Jaal seem to be resolving with a happy ending and that we can all be happy for each other. I'm sure Jaal would be very proud of us for getting our feelings out in the open and textually hugging it out like this. lol I will never forgive myself for being so upset and not thinking clearly. I might have figured it out sooner and stopped fearing the worst. You guys always had our support. And you were always welcomed there. We never just assumed he was straight. We continued to share Scott and Jaal pics, fanfics, talked about how he makes sense being bi. You guys were never forgotten during that dark time. Yeah lol we are as bad as the Angara with all our hugging! Jaal will be the next Cullen cult. One of us, gobble gooble gobble gooble.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 6:34:27 GMT
Yep. Can confirm now. Cyonan can vouch I think. Origin Games\Mass Effect Andromeda\Data\Win32\sbd\rest\conversationperformances.sbAll is there. No gender-lock for Vetra, Peebee and Jaal. Locks for their own gender for Suvi and Gil. Locks for opposite genders for Cora and Liam. (if pathfinder is x then) Bi Jaal is true, guys. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Wasn't Cullen confirmed to be bi by dataminers? No, they found leftover voice clips for male Inquisitors showing that Cullen used to be bi. This is the trigger code, if there is no check, maleRyder will definitely JaalRyder.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 6:30:44 GMT
Found some mentions of Reyes game/email/hubs/kadara/reyes/kad_reyes_breakup_email game/email/hubs/kadara/reyes/kad_reyes_goodbye_email game/email/hubs/kadara/reyes/kad_reyes_postbreakup_email game/email/hubs/kadara/reyes/kad_reyes_rom_01_email game/email/hubs/kadara/reyes/kad_reyes_rom_allied_email Well that's... not the nicest things I've read. Now we need Reyes' airlock email. lol
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 6:24:54 GMT
From the data mining, it seems like there are 3/3/3 split up between the sexual orientations in order to get the romance trophy. I wonder who is the last bi guy. Reyes is not one of them, neither is Lexi for the female option.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 16, 2017 6:16:36 GMT
It would make no sense to me that any race that would be into an Asari wouldn't also be into a human lady. Come on, they're the same thing. Are lacking head tentacles really that much of a dealbreaker? Pretty sure they talked about that. Any race that looks at the Asari find something that related to their species. Turian has the ridge thing, The Salarian even talked about being attracted to Asari even though ""My people don't have sex drives the way you humans do"." The bachelor party with the humans, salarian, and Turians all talked about how the Asari resembled their species and it may be telepathy manipulation. Especially how a Salarian who can't feel sexual attraction feels attracted to an Asari.
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