inherit
529
0
7,815
Nightscrawl
3,266
August 2016
nightscrawl
Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Nightscrawl on Oct 26, 2016 17:48:29 GMT
^ I don't think that Dorian is anything like his father except perhaps in a superficial sense. Halward sees what he wants to see in Dorian, which isn't the whole of Dorian. It is plainly obvious that Halward just doesn't "get" his son, his motivations, his needs and wants. Part of the reason is because he looks at Dorian through the lens of his own goals and just doesn't seem to understand why Dorian doesn't share them. The whole thing is pathetic. It's worth remembering Halward himself was forced into a loveless sham marriage for the sake of the grand Tevinter experiment in eugenics. Is it really unexpected then why Halward was so adamant about holding his son to the same standards and expectations that were visited upon him by his own parents? This does not diminish Halward's atrocious behaviour or lack of understanding towards his own son, but as you say, Halward has been so indoctrinated and ingrained into the cultural mentality and attitudes of Tevinter society, he cannot divorce himself from looking at the world (or his son) through that skewed lens. Either way, we should pity Halward. Either he cannot understand why being miserable in a sham marriage, solely because of what the neighbours might think, is not appealing to Dorian... or he understands perfectly, but feels that since he had to suffer through a loveless arranged marriage, it's only "fair" that his son should do the same. Yepper, I agree with all of this. I still stand by all of what I said, though. I always say to Dorian, to talk to him, do not let him just be there. Halward seems broken. Probably he regret, and really want to back his son's trust. But if we don't care about Halward, I think the talk with him, and possibly forgiveness better for Dorian. I believe, that not too good a lifetime to carry the burden of hatred (uh... so highly lofty words!), and Halward died. It was his last chance to get rid of his anger against his father. As we heard, they was in good relationship, when Dorian was little boy. I'm sure he would feel bad if he had not talked to him last time. Yes, this is metaknowledge, but we still know: he left Tevinter, and we dont know, when he want to back (IF he want to back...) Pfft, I hope, I was understandable... (Whatever, I not a psychiatris, it's somewhat based of my experience, and maybe I'm seems too soft hearted, but this not really true, I'm a hot-headed angry jerk, but I can't be angry at anyone for a long time, and I always feel better, when my anger fade.)Maybe I'm dumb but I see no reason for Dorian and Halward to try and reconcile. I always encourage Dorian to speak with his father. But, what annoys me is that this should be Dorian's decision to make, not mine. But that's true to a lot of the decisions regarding companions in DA:I, that your the hand that shapes their future, even if it's totally weird for them to let the Inquisitor affect their lives so drastically. Though yes, I agree. I agree with Catalina. To me, it just seems like an encouraging suggestion from the Inquisitor. Dorian is the one who makes the decision, and even then, in the scene back at Skyhold he says, "I don't know if I can forgive him." Even with all of the dialogue in Trespasser, we never know what conclusion Dorian came to, and it seems that their relationship was still strained until the end. Dorian's feelings about his father have been portrayed as anything but simple. The best example of that is the whole dialogue with Cole. He loves his father, and does know that his father loves him, but he was so hurt and disappointed and betrayed by his father's actions, and still carries a part of that anger around.
|
|
inherit
∯ Oh Loredy...
455
0
Nov 24, 2024 15:05:36 GMT
31,147
gervaise21
13,083
August 2016
gervaise21
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights
|
Post by gervaise21 on Oct 26, 2016 20:03:35 GMT
I agree that it is for Dorian's sake I encouraged him to give his father a hearing. Even without knowing Trespasser, there is always that thought that if something happened to Halward, Dorian would likely be filled with regret that he didn't at least try. However, Dorian saying that even after hearing his father out, he doesn't know if he can forgive him is also perfectly understandable. When I was badly betrayed by someone close, it took me 10 years to get to the point where I could think about forgiving them and they hadn't tried altering my mind with blood magic. Yet while I carried around that anger and resentment inside me, I was really harming myself. So I really think getting him to start a dialogue again with his father will help Dorian heal himself. Then we know from Trespasser that Dorian only gets possibly one opportunity to meet Halward again before he does die, and Dorian does seem very affected emotionally by the fact that his father hadn't disowned him (bearing in mind what Cole said Halward's last words were to him when he left home), so it confirms how important the episode in Redcliffe is for Dorian.
|
|
inherit
975
0
1,680
cloud9
3,876
Aug 14, 2016 11:41:22 GMT
August 2016
cloud9
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2
sicklyhour015
|
Post by cloud9 on Nov 6, 2016 4:33:03 GMT
I cared very little for him. He doesn't see slaves as people and cared none about the brutality they've gone through as slaves and he can't get over his daddy because if his sexuallity. Selfish prick.
|
|
inherit
Wanted Apostate
127
0
18,270
Catilina
11,035
August 2016
catilina
Top
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Catilina on Nov 6, 2016 4:43:52 GMT
I cared very little for him. He doesn't see slaves as people and cared none about the brutality they've gone through as slaves and he can't get over his daddy because if his sexuallity. Selfish prick. Thank you for this. We never ever heard this opinion before!
|
|
inherit
975
0
1,680
cloud9
3,876
Aug 14, 2016 11:41:22 GMT
August 2016
cloud9
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2
sicklyhour015
|
Post by cloud9 on Nov 8, 2016 6:50:01 GMT
I cared very little for him. He doesn't see slaves as people and cared none about the brutality they've gone through as slaves and he can't get over his daddy because if his sexuallity. Selfish prick. Thank you for this. We never ever heard this opinion before! Thank you Captain Obvious.
|
|
inherit
∯ Oh Loredy...
455
0
Nov 24, 2024 15:05:36 GMT
31,147
gervaise21
13,083
August 2016
gervaise21
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights
|
Post by gervaise21 on Dec 22, 2016 19:54:28 GMT
Hi there. Thought it about time Dorian shifted up the boards. Reznore had expressed a wish to see some of my fan fiction and I've finally plucked up the courage to post my novella, Telanadas, on line, so I thought this might be the best place to let you know, since Dorian does feature throughout, even if much of the time he is only at the end of a crystal. The link is: archiveofourown.org/works/8952415/chapters/20489572. However, it comes with a health warning, do not read if you don't like elves.
|
|
inherit
Now Available As A Combo Meal!
984
0
Nov 22, 2024 22:51:33 GMT
16,655
dragontartare
Add a cookie for just $1.99 (plus tax)!
5,664
Aug 14, 2016 19:06:09 GMT
August 2016
dragontartare
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
DragonsALaMode
|
Post by dragontartare on Dec 22, 2016 20:52:32 GMT
Hi there. Thought it about time Dorian shifted up the boards. Reznore had expressed a wish to see some of my fan fiction and I've finally plucked up the courage to post my novella, Telanadas, on line, so I thought this might be the best place to let you know, since Dorian does feature throughout, even if much of the time he is only at the end of a crystal. The link is: archiveofourown.org/works/8952415/chapters/20489572. However, it comes with a health warning, do not read if you don't like elves. When I have a bit more time after Christmas, I'll give this a look
|
|
inherit
Now Available As A Combo Meal!
984
0
Nov 22, 2024 22:51:33 GMT
16,655
dragontartare
Add a cookie for just $1.99 (plus tax)!
5,664
Aug 14, 2016 19:06:09 GMT
August 2016
dragontartare
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
DragonsALaMode
|
Post by dragontartare on Jan 1, 2017 5:14:58 GMT
What is everyone's favorite class/race/spec to romance Dorian with?
I've done a Templar Lavellan, and you get a bit of dialogue after choosing the spec, and then there is the Dalish dialogue after he first joins you. I want to do a different class or spec next time (though I intend to use Lavellan again and make him as elfy as possible) and just wondered what the rest of you like.
|
|
melbella
N7
Trouble-shooting Space Diva
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: melbella
Prime Posts: 2186
Prime Likes: 5778
Posts: 8,414 Likes: 26,107
inherit
214
0
Nov 24, 2024 23:57:08 GMT
26,107
melbella
Trouble-shooting Space Diva
8,414
August 2016
melbella
Bottom
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
melbella
2186
5778
|
Post by melbella on Jan 1, 2017 5:32:51 GMT
I did Dalish KE first time and Templar Trev second time. Non-mage Trev gets to know a bit more about his family history. It's not romance related though - fem non-mage Trev gets it too, though I'm pretty sure only the male gets the flirt option as a reply. Unfortunately, if you get that dialogue at Haven, Dorian foretells the future by calling you "Inquisitor." Other than that, the whole exchange is hilarious.
|
|
inherit
Now Available As A Combo Meal!
984
0
Nov 22, 2024 22:51:33 GMT
16,655
dragontartare
Add a cookie for just $1.99 (plus tax)!
5,664
Aug 14, 2016 19:06:09 GMT
August 2016
dragontartare
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
DragonsALaMode
|
Post by dragontartare on Jan 1, 2017 6:15:24 GMT
I did Dalish KE first time and Templar Trev second time. Non-mage Trev gets to know a bit more about his family history. It's not romance related though - fem non-mage Trev gets it too, though I'm pretty sure only the male gets the flirt option as a reply. Unfortunately, if you get that dialogue at Haven, Dorian foretells the future by calling you "Inquisitor." Other than that, the whole exchange is hilarious. Is it about... ...how they are distantly related? I was thinking of maybe doing a KE, either with my next Dorian run or maybe with Cassandra. I like imagining that Quiz and Dorian could discuss magical theory from different perspectives, though I'm guessing there is no extra dialogue doing so? I don't remember having any with my rift mage, though she was female and thus obviously not romanced.
|
|
inherit
529
0
7,815
Nightscrawl
3,266
August 2016
nightscrawl
Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Nightscrawl on Jan 1, 2017 10:26:27 GMT
I noticed the "Inquisitor" mistake at Haven as well. There are a couple of other investigate dialogues (with other people) this also applies to as well as a war table thing. I've only romanced Dorian with one guy as I play the same character repeatedly, but I do like the combination. Mine is a Trevelyan warrior, SnS champion spec. I like the idea of Dorian + soporati, because it would be another form of rebellion from him, and I also doubt that he cares about such things. Also, despite the lack of magic, that combination makes the PC seem like more of a peer than any other combination, even a Trev mage (since the mage was in the Circle), which is meaningful to me. They're both men, from privileged backgrounds, from families that had certain expectations of them*, so they have that in common as a jumping off point. * Regardless of whether your PC has followed through with these expectations according to your headcanon (mine did not), it is still part of the game that it is tradition for that Trevelyan child to join the Chantry. [edit] Your Hawke is pretty, btw Dragon.
|
|
inherit
∯ Oh Loredy...
455
0
Nov 24, 2024 15:05:36 GMT
31,147
gervaise21
13,083
August 2016
gervaise21
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights
|
Post by gervaise21 on Jan 1, 2017 12:09:06 GMT
Apparently his nanny used to get him to recite the family tree by rote, because that sort of thing matters to the Altus (his mother certainly) and somewhere in the dim and distant past there is mention of a Trevelyan. Hardly surprising really considering Tevinter once controlled the whole of Thedas and in more recent past attempted to retake various parts of the Freemarches. If the history of Drakon is anything to go by, then the Altus found marrying off their non-mage offspring to southern nobility was a good way of extending their influence in that area. Anyway, you only get this dialogue if you a human noble and a non-mage, otherwise the mage dialogue takes precedence.
I enjoy playing a mage with Dorian, regardless of whether we are in a romance or not, because I can see how they would have common ground and enjoy talking about magical theory. Playing a Dalish mage means you would probably be able to share very different perspectives (although not actually in game). If playing a Dalish, that is the dialogue you get, rather than a comment on the fact that you do magic. I assume he comments if you take Necromancer as your specialism (not done this myself) but he doesn't have anything to say about the other two.
My canon Inquisitor is a Dalish assassin archer, in a romance with Dorian, and that was interesting because he did comment on my specialism in relation to what can be found in Tevinter. Again, I think he only comments about assassin and not the other two specialisms. Whilst there is no specific dialogue in game, so I had to develop the ideas myself, it seemed to me there would be just as much pressure on a Dalish to conform and marry young, have kids, etc, as there would be in the nobility elsewhere. So the dialogue option after you have met his father when you can say to Dorian how you respect him for taking his stance because it can't be easy fighting against tradition seemed very appropriate for my PC because I felt that he had done the same and so it was in keeping with the way I envisioned his character.
Incidentally, if you haven't done so before, try taking Dorian around for an extended period with Solas. When they talk magical theory it really gives you a feel for just how knowledgeable Dorian is in his field because he can hold his own against Solas in that respect.
|
|
inherit
529
0
7,815
Nightscrawl
3,266
August 2016
nightscrawl
Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Nightscrawl on Jan 1, 2017 17:34:13 GMT
Hardly surprising really considering Tevinter once controlled the whole of Thedas and in more recent past attempted to retake various parts of the Freemarches. If the history of Drakon is anything to go by, then the Altus found marrying off their non-mage offspring to southern nobility was a good way of extending their influence in that area. I don't know where this thought comes from. We know that when the Tevinters controlled areas like Kirkwall they were governed by high-ranking mages. I find it just as likely that whatever Trevelyan ancestors traveled down there as part of the settling efforts and simply remained. Eventually, the magic in the bloodline was reduced due to the demographics of the South, marrying into non-mage families, and the rise of the Circle system. The ones bearing the name left in Tevinter eventually died off, and the rest married into other houses. Considering the Trevelyan can be a mage, I find it just as likely that they were originally mages.
|
|
inherit
∯ Oh Loredy...
455
0
Nov 24, 2024 15:05:36 GMT
31,147
gervaise21
13,083
August 2016
gervaise21
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights
|
Post by gervaise21 on Jan 1, 2017 19:55:23 GMT
You need to read the history of Kordillus Drakon. His grandfather was Lord Vanderin Drakon a Tevinter Altus whose family fortunes were declining in Tevinter. He married off his youngest son Septimus to Castana, the daughter of a prominent Ciriane chieftan. Most people thought nothing of it up north because it just seemed like he was ridding himself of an unwanted non-mage child. However, Septimus helped his wife secure the title of gothi, or queen, of Orlais, then just a collection clans of both Ciriane and Alamaari and the family never looked back in the south, at least not until the Valmonts stepped in and ousted them from power.
That is where I got the idea that may be Dorian's ancestor could have been a non-mage reject or even a mage of negligible ability (like Felix) who would be an embarrassment back home but a very useful asset in the south where they were suspicious of mages being in charge. That would equally explain why the Trevelyan family might produce a mage child out of the blue, since we still don't know exactly how mage genetics work. After all, look at Feynriel, he was a Dreamer and neither of his parents were mages.
I've also just noticed that if the Inquisitor shows concern that they are related he says: "I think we're still good to go...by at least three ages." If you take that literally and to be honest you can only remember family trees back so far without it getting dreadfully complicated, that would only take it back to the Steel Age, long after Tevinter were in charge in the south, although I suppose Trevelyan could have been fleeing the Qunari invasion of their homeland. Still that would be very unpatriotic, so I'd go with the regular boring politically inspired marriage and somehow I can't see a fully blown mage going down too well in the south at that time.
|
|
inherit
∯ Oh Loredy...
455
0
Nov 24, 2024 15:05:36 GMT
31,147
gervaise21
13,083
August 2016
gervaise21
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights
|
Post by gervaise21 on Jan 1, 2017 21:11:11 GMT
While looking through Dorian's conversations again, I was struck again by his claiming that in Tevinter they don't believe that the Magisters started the Blight. They say the darkspawn were always there. Now I always found that rather hard to believe because Hessarian adopted faith in the Maker as the official religion in Tevinter on the basis of his Canticle of Silence, which firmly put the blame for the Blight on the corrupt priesthood of the Old Gods. Whilst the southern Divine might have thought fit to drop it from the Chant for political reasons, it seemed odd that the Tevinter Chantry would do the same, since it would remove any justification for worshipping the Maker at all. Still, since DG wrote the dialogue, he should know.
Then I realised that what Dorian claims is the belief in Tevinter is actually what Corypheus claimed when you visit the Temple of Dumat(CoJ). He says that they "discovered the darkness". This is also borne out by what he says in DA2, that the city was already black when they got there. Plus the dwarves, who have always been on good terms with Tevinter, have always maintained that they don't believe the Chantry propaganda about the origins of the Blight.
However, Corypheus also says "There is no record even of our names". This seems confirmed by what we discover in the records, where we have to do some serious digging to discover the family that he came from. Which would be odd if Tevinter had never believed they were responsible. So I'm rather confused now. At what point did the northern Chantry start lying about it? Or is it the case that in fact what Dorian was taught was actually the truth? (Which has been strongly hinted in Trespasser). History means a lot to Dorian so I wouldn't insult him by suggesting he got his facts wrong.
|
|
melbella
N7
Trouble-shooting Space Diva
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: melbella
Prime Posts: 2186
Prime Likes: 5778
Posts: 8,414 Likes: 26,107
inherit
214
0
Nov 24, 2024 23:57:08 GMT
26,107
melbella
Trouble-shooting Space Diva
8,414
August 2016
melbella
Bottom
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
melbella
2186
5778
|
Post by melbella on Jan 1, 2017 21:49:52 GMT
The blight corruption already existing and the magisters being responsible for releasing it and starting the Blights aren't mutually exclusive events. They can both be true. Tevinter arguing the magisters didn't create the Blight while glossing over the fact they let it out seems like something they would do to make themselves feel better. Like Dorian says: "You know how it is. 'Not us'." He also says they lie to themselves about everything, so why not this too?
|
|
inherit
549
0
Sept 12, 2016 8:45:31 GMT
3,177
SpiritVanguard
Offline...
1,103
August 2016
spiritvanguard
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by SpiritVanguard on Jan 1, 2017 23:06:38 GMT
I've had both Dorian and (mostly) Blackwall use "Inquisitor" in Haven on my mages too. Figured it was a bug. What is everyone's favorite class/race/spec to romance Dorian with? I'm probably biased as I prefer playing mages. And elves. So elven mage is my Dorianmancer of choice. I did romance Dorian with a human first (Knight Enchanter) which was interesting but elf (Rift Mage) was just far more satisfying for me. On top of having the elf connection with the main story, there's the way my elf connects with Dorian because of his (my headcanon) background with his clan/culture. Though the "taboo" of them being together is there and bending those barriers is an appeal, it's not about that. When it comes to magic I'd say Dorian is more of the "nerd." My elf looks at magic more practically, as just a useful thing he was born with not something that makes him special or superior -- but Dorian (and Solas) bring a new perspective and appreciation for his talents. There's like a, hm, uninhibited exchange in ideas through learning on both parts which I think is satisfying for both of them.
|
|
inherit
Now Available As A Combo Meal!
984
0
Nov 22, 2024 22:51:33 GMT
16,655
dragontartare
Add a cookie for just $1.99 (plus tax)!
5,664
Aug 14, 2016 19:06:09 GMT
August 2016
dragontartare
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
DragonsALaMode
|
Post by dragontartare on Jan 2, 2017 2:21:38 GMT
I noticed the "Inquisitor" mistake at Haven as well. There are a couple of other investigate dialogues (with other people) this also applies to as well as a war table thing. I've only romanced Dorian with one guy as I play the same character repeatedly, but I do like the combination. Mine is a Trevelyan warrior, SnS champion spec. I like the idea of Dorian + soporati, because it would be another form of rebellion from him, and I also doubt that he cares about such things. Also, despite the lack of magic, that combination makes the PC seem like more of a peer than any other combination, even a Trev mage (since the mage was in the Circle), which is meaningful to me. They're both men, from privileged backgrounds, from families that had certain expectations of them*, so they have that in common as a jumping off point. * Regardless of whether your PC has followed through with these expectations according to your headcanon (mine did not), it is still part of the game that it is tradition for that Trevelyan child to join the Chantry. [edit] Your Hawke is pretty, btw Dragon. Aw, thank you! I like your headcanon. I will probably take inspiration from it for my Cassandra romance, whenever I get around to it. Apparently his nanny used to get him to recite the family tree by rote, because that sort of thing matters to the Altus (his mother certainly) and somewhere in the dim and distant past there is mention of a Trevelyan. Hardly surprising really considering Tevinter once controlled the whole of Thedas and in more recent past attempted to retake various parts of the Freemarches. If the history of Drakon is anything to go by, then the Altus found marrying off their non-mage offspring to southern nobility was a good way of extending their influence in that area. Anyway, you only get this dialogue if you a human noble and a non-mage, otherwise the mage dialogue takes precedence.
I enjoy playing a mage with Dorian, regardless of whether we are in a romance or not, because I can see how they would have common ground and enjoy talking about magical theory. Playing a Dalish mage means you would probably be able to share very different perspectives (although not actually in game). If playing a Dalish, that is the dialogue you get, rather than a comment on the fact that you do magic. I assume he comments if you take Necromancer as your specialism (not done this myself) but he doesn't have anything to say about the other two.
My canon Inquisitor is a Dalish assassin archer, in a romance with Dorian, and that was interesting because he did comment on my specialism in relation to what can be found in Tevinter. Again, I think he only comments about assassin and not the other two specialisms. Whilst there is no specific dialogue in game, so I had to develop the ideas myself, it seemed to me there would be just as much pressure on a Dalish to conform and marry young, have kids, etc, as there would be in the nobility elsewhere. So the dialogue option after you have met his father when you can say to Dorian how you respect him for taking his stance because it can't be easy fighting against tradition seemed very appropriate for my PC because I felt that he had done the same and so it was in keeping with the way I envisioned his character.
Incidentally, if you haven't done so before, try taking Dorian around for an extended period with Solas. When they talk magical theory it really gives you a feel for just how knowledgeable Dorian is in his field because he can hold his own against Solas in that respect. My Lavellan did drag Solas and Dorian around together enough to get some of that dialogue, whenever I wanted a second mage. I enjoyed Dorian's enthusiasm, and it's too bad the Inquisitor can't interject in banter very often so that a mage could share their perspective in the game. I didn't give much thought to procreation with my first Lavellan, but you're probably right that there would be a lot of pressure to help increase their numbers. I've had both Dorian and (mostly) Blackwall use "Inquisitor" in Haven on my mages too. Figured it was a bug. What is everyone's favorite class/race/spec to romance Dorian with? I'm probably biased as I prefer playing mages. And elves. So elven mage is my Dorianmancer of choice. I did romance Dorian with a human first (Knight Enchanter) which was interesting but elf (Rift Mage) was just far more satisfying for me. On top of having the elf connection with the main story, there's the way my elf connects with Dorian because of his (my headcanon) background with his clan/culture. Though the "taboo" of them being together is there and bending those barriers is an appeal, it's not about that. When it comes to magic I'd say Dorian is more of the "nerd." My elf looks at magic more practically, as just a useful thing he was born with not something that makes him special or superior -- but Dorian (and Solas) bring a new perspective and appreciation for his talents. There's like a, hm, uninhibited exchange in ideas through learning on both parts which I think is satisfying for both of them. I did like the elf/Tevinter connection between them with my first Lavellan, which is why I want to do another, elfier, Inquisitor I really like the way rift mage just fits in with the abilities of the mark -- I imagined my Trevelyan got her new abilities in part from the mark -- but I want to try a new specialization this next time.
|
|
inherit
529
0
7,815
Nightscrawl
3,266
August 2016
nightscrawl
Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Nightscrawl on Jan 2, 2017 6:25:55 GMT
I've had both Dorian and (mostly) Blackwall use "Inquisitor" in Haven on my mages too. Figured it was a bug. It's not a true bug, but just that they recorded only one version of the dialogue. Since you can hear almost all of the investigates at any time after recruiting the person, it just happens that it can play and reveal that spoiler. It could have just been worded in such a way as to leave out the title altogether. I love that aspect of his personality and have used it a few times in my own writings. Aw, thank you! I like your headcanon. I will probably take inspiration from it for my Cassandra romance, whenever I get around to it. I think it's a bit more tricky with someone like Cassandra (less so with Josephine) because she rejects everything about her nobility. Still though, it is hard to completely escape being raised in a life of privilege. Regardless of her dislike for certain trappings, it does color her worldview, including that of the Chantry.
|
|
melbella
N7
Trouble-shooting Space Diva
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: melbella
Prime Posts: 2186
Prime Likes: 5778
Posts: 8,414 Likes: 26,107
inherit
214
0
Nov 24, 2024 23:57:08 GMT
26,107
melbella
Trouble-shooting Space Diva
8,414
August 2016
melbella
Bottom
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
melbella
2186
5778
|
Post by melbella on Jan 2, 2017 18:10:14 GMT
They kind of spoiled the whole "Inquisitor" thing right off the bat anyway, since the entire main quest line falls under "Inquisitor's Path." It's a little more creative than "main story," but still annoying. If it's a choice between "spoiler" and "boring" I think I'd rather have boring.
|
|
inherit
529
0
7,815
Nightscrawl
3,266
August 2016
nightscrawl
Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Nightscrawl on Jan 2, 2017 18:46:59 GMT
^ LOL I forgot about that.
Was the whole "Inquisitor" thing in marketing? I didn't look at much of the marketing.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
1181
0
Deleted
0
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 19:26:08 GMT
If you go to the official site for some before purchase research, and either click at "Game info" or "Inquisitor" it states pretty clearly who you will become. Just looking at my box cover, "Become the Inquisitor" is one of the selling points, along with "Discover the open world" and "Bond with legends" and the Origin purchase site just goes as far as saying "You are the Inquisitor". So Dorian probably just read the box art, because he's sneaky like that. As for pairings for Dorian. I quite liked him with my Cadogan, a very egotistical two handed warrior. Basically a miniature Bull, who was a bit less afraid of magic. He was very "devout" as in he used every chance he got to quote the Chant (especially if he could make it sound dirty or stuff it into a completely unrelated conversation). So he understood Dorians love-hate-ish relationship with his homeland, shared his appreciation of fine things and his ego was too strong for Dorian to dent it when Dorian got snarky.
|
|
inherit
∯ Oh Loredy...
455
0
Nov 24, 2024 15:05:36 GMT
31,147
gervaise21
13,083
August 2016
gervaise21
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights
|
Post by gervaise21 on Jan 2, 2017 19:50:20 GMT
Yes, I don't think there was ever any doubt about where you were headed from the blurb on the box. There is also a point at Haven when talking with Bull when he says the problem with the organisation at present is that it has no specific leader, no Inquisitor. At that point you can say that may be you'll take the job, so even if you hadn't seen the information on the box or realised from the advanced publicity that you were going to lead the Inquisition, I think that was a pretty big hint before you are actually offered the role.
What people are pointing out though, is that with some of the dialogue before you get to Skyhold, people are actually already calling you the Inquisitor even though you haven't officially been offered the job. Which isn't so much a spoiler as spoiling immersion since apparently the individuals have suddenly acquired foresight. Just one of those instances where things slip through, probably by accident or a dialogue flag not operating properly.
To be honest I don't know why they needed to wait as far as Skyhold, apart from the dramatic impact, because you were already making major decisions as though you were in charge of the organisation, so someone calling you Inquisitor at Haven just seems like them making assumptions about your title, based on your leadership already at that time. In a way it was like you were "acting Inquisitor" (on probation in the job) at Haven and having proved yourself are offered the job permanently at Skyhold.
|
|
inherit
154
0
Nov 24, 2024 23:28:51 GMT
4,552
Reznore
1,862
August 2016
reznore
|
Post by Reznore on Jan 2, 2017 23:35:58 GMT
Hi there. Thought it about time Dorian shifted up the boards. Reznore had expressed a wish to see some of my fan fiction and I've finally plucked up the courage to post my novella, Telanadas, on line, so I thought this might be the best place to let you know, since Dorian does feature throughout, even if much of the time he is only at the end of a crystal. The link is: archiveofourown.org/works/8952415/chapters/20489572. However, it comes with a health warning, do not read if you don't like elves. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Sorry I'm late to the party. Happy New Year Everyone ! (From mellorianj.deviantart.com/art/Scandalous-Dance-512896114)
|
|
inherit
549
0
Sept 12, 2016 8:45:31 GMT
3,177
SpiritVanguard
Offline...
1,103
August 2016
spiritvanguard
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by SpiritVanguard on Jan 2, 2017 23:57:25 GMT
** I did like the elf/Tevinter connection between them with my first Lavellan, which is why I want to do another, elfier, Inquisitor I really like the way rift mage just fits in with the abilities of the mark -- I imagined my Trevelyan got her new abilities in part from the mark -- but I want to try a new specialization this next time. TBH the specializations don't really play much into my headcanon land, I've always just picked what suits my fighting style (with maybe an imagined reason for the character), but in DAI I was disappointed with the combat and specs so it almost doesn't matter which I choose. I tend to go with KE most of the time but I like the idea of RM more. I like to think that becoming RM is the way my elf connects more with not only his mark but his magic; has begun to see magic as more than just a mundane tool, and genuinely wants to learn more. Cole, for that matter, also helps to pull more interest to the Fade. I never do Necromancer, though, because that's what Dorian is for. I've never played an "elfy" elf -- though Sera would probably disagree. I had a proud Dalish with Solas but she wasn't a blind zealot. With Dorian I have a loafing loner who lacked ambition to do or be anything. He's very laid-back and low-key, and spent a lot of time alone when living with his clan. A misfit, though not ostracized. He knew he didn't fit in with his people (or whatever it "means" to be Dalish) but didn't know what he wanted. Joining the Inquisition was good for him, for a lot of reasons. It's not a true bug, but just that they recorded only one version of the dialogue. Since you can hear almost all of the investigates at any time after recruiting the person, it just happens that it can play and reveal that spoiler. It could have just been worded in such a way as to leave out the title altogether. huh. It's a good thing that didn't happen the first time I played. While not a super spoiler it is somewhat jarring to suddenly hear. Yeah, I love hearing Dorian's nerd talk. I always wanted more.
|
|