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Post by dragontartare on Feb 9, 2017 22:57:48 GMT
But how can he be with Cullen when he and my Lavellan are supposed to be together forever? What horrible alternate universe is this?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 23:00:49 GMT
Holy shit you can play his romance scene 2 different ways? You can actually be shy and take it slow? ***mind blown** Both scenes are adorable, I'm gonna burst from all the cuteness. Now to decide which one to go with... Go for the option that lets you see his butt Lol, I went for taking it slow. But I reloaded and watched the nookie anyway...it was...picturesque.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Feb 9, 2017 23:19:23 GMT
Holy shit you can play his romance scene 2 different ways? You can actually be shy and take it slow? ***mind blown** Both scenes are adorable, I'm gonna burst from all the cuteness. Now to decide which one to go with... There are two options for the first kiss as well. Did you see both of those? At any rate, that's one of the things that I like about the Dorian romance so very much. You can really craft it to suit your Inquisitor's personality and also how you, the player, see the relationship. My Inquisitor is a total sap, and is kind of a serious person, so he doesn't often pick the humorous lines. It sometimes seems like Dorian doesn't quite know what to do with someone who is so straight forward in that sense, even though he appreciates it. I usually watch both scenes and then go with the sex version, as it fits my roleplay and canon better. They're both really great and each has their own special moments. [edit] I suggest you not watch either of the two post-sex reject options. The one to break it off gets a typical Dorian response, so it's not too bad. The one to keep it "fun" is the worst, IMO, because he completely shuts down emotionally; you can clearly see that he's disappointed. It's especially bad if you've asked him to explain things. I watched it just to see and I wanted to punch my Inquisitor in the face.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Feb 9, 2017 23:20:22 GMT
But how can he be with Cullen when he and my Lavellan are supposed to be together forever? What horrible alternate universe is this? That's not Cullen, that's a blonde human warrior Inquisitor. Look at the shield arm...
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 9, 2017 23:31:12 GMT
But how can he be with Cullen when he and my Lavellan are supposed to be together forever? What horrible alternate universe is this? That's not Cullen, that's a blonde human warrior Inquisitor. Look at the shield arm... Ah yes, you are correct. I missed that part. Dorian/Cullen is fairly popular on Tumblr and DA, so that's where my brain went when I saw the buff blonde.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 19:19:47 GMT
Both scenes are adorable, I'm gonna burst from all the cuteness. Now to decide which one to go with... There are two options for the first kiss as well. Did you see both of those? At any rate, that's one of the things that I like about the Dorian romance so very much. You can really craft it to suit your Inquisitor's personality and also how you, the player, see the relationship. My Inquisitor is a total sap, and is kind of a serious person, so he doesn't often pick the humorous lines. It sometimes seems like Dorian doesn't quite know what to do with someone who is so straight forward in that sense, even though he appreciates it. I usually watch both scenes and then go with the sex version, as it fits my roleplay and canon better. They're both really great and each has their own special moments. [edit] I suggest you not watch either of the two post-sex reject options. The one to break it off gets a typical Dorian response, so it's not too bad. The one to keep it "fun" is the worst, IMO, because he completely shuts down emotionally; you can clearly see that he's disappointed. It's especially bad if you've asked him to explain things. I watched it just to see and I wanted to punch my Inquisitor in the face. Two options for the first kiss? Damn I didn't know that. I'll take your advice and avoid watching those scenes, they sound awful.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 10, 2017 19:29:03 GMT
Both scenes are adorable, I'm gonna burst from all the cuteness. Now to decide which one to go with... There are two options for the first kiss as well. Did you see both of those? At any rate, that's one of the things that I like about the Dorian romance so very much. You can really craft it to suit your Inquisitor's personality and also how you, the player, see the relationship. My Inquisitor is a total sap, and is kind of a serious person, so he doesn't often pick the humorous lines. It sometimes seems like Dorian doesn't quite know what to do with someone who is so straight forward in that sense, even though he appreciates it. I usually watch both scenes and then go with the sex version, as it fits my roleplay and canon better. They're both really great and each has their own special moments. [edit] I suggest you not watch either of the two post-sex reject options. The one to break it off gets a typical Dorian response, so it's not too bad. The one to keep it "fun" is the worst, IMO, because he completely shuts down emotionally; you can clearly see that he's disappointed. It's especially bad if you've asked him to explain things. I watched it just to see and I wanted to punch my Inquisitor in the face. Two options for the first kiss? Damn I didn't know that.
I'll take your advice and avoid watching those scenes, they sound awful. Two, yes, I like better the second one (if skipped the "canon" opportunity, after the quest), after Giselle's scene. I found it accidentally, with a non-Dorian romanced character. After this you also can starting the romance.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 10, 2017 19:43:21 GMT
I only discovered the second option for the first kiss by accident. You need to avoid taking the heart option on returning from his seeing his father. I opted for saying I admired his courage in going against cultural expectations, which really fitted with my Lavellan because they would be challenging tradition in having a romance with Dorian. Dorian still appreciated this sentiment. Then comes the confrontation with Giselle and after this concludes that you get the alternative first kiss, which I loved and actually prefer to the earlier one, particularly the Inquisitor's comment after it.
Going slow fitted my role play better but I also watched both scenes before I decided which way to go. I do think it is a pity that if you take things slow you don't get to see Dorian in the buff.
If you want to see some good extra scenes, find the non censored/alternative camera angle encounter on You Tube. This is apparently what we should have got but for some reason Bioware denied us, unless you have the mod that allows for alternate camera angles. There is some weirdness with bodies sinking through the bed and Dorian's arm disappearing and dematerialising through his lover's body at one point, which is probably the reason why they left it out in the end.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Feb 10, 2017 19:45:56 GMT
A couple of pages ago, I mentioned spoilers when Phoray was asking about their Dorian romance play. Since you're past it now, I'll explain... There are two options for the first kiss. The first comes when you're back at Skyhold immediately following the meeting with Halward. In that scene, you choose the and the Inquisitor initiates a kiss. Even though the Inquisitor initiates here, they do come together mutually and share a nice kiss. The second option comes after the Giselle conversation. In the previous scene (post-Halward), you need to choose the "brave" option. After the Giselle conversation, if you choose the , the game will pop a dialogue box asking you to confirm whether or not you want to start a romance with Dorian yes/no. On hitting yes, the Inquisitor says a sort of flirty thing and Dorian initiates the kiss. This is a surprise kiss, and the Inquisitor just stands there while Dorian presses his lips to the Inquisitor's for several seconds; the Inquisitor does not kiss back and appears a bit stunned, even though he obviously liked it. There is a bit of trickiness with getting the game to recognize the romance if you take the second route, but it's not too difficult. Normally, with the first option, if you have enough approval the NPC for the romance quest is available immediately in the room below with Solas. With the second option, you need to talk to Dorian again and say that you want to start the romance. There is another yes/no confirmation dialogue here. After that, the tricky part is that you need to LEAVE SKYHOLD; go to some other map (Hinterlands, wherever), and then go back. After you do that, if you have enough approval the romance quest NPC will appear near Solas. Unfortunately, this is one of those things that you don't know about unless you know about it. For many players doing the Dorian romance, it would seem natural to pick the in the post-Halward scene, so it's easy to miss. In addition, the post-Giselle conversation plays out a bit differently for each path you take. Because of my Inquisitor's roleplay, I prefer the surprise kiss route.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2017 19:16:23 GMT
Thanks for the info guys, I obviously took the first option and had no idea the surprise kiss existed. I found it on Youtube (with a dwarf who mysteriously suddenly found a crate to stand on for the kiss ) and boy it was passionate! I like that one way more...I'm thinking of going back to my pre-romance saves (which I may have written down in my notes ) and replaying that moment to get the second kiss, then going to the bedroom scene and replaying that. Having Dorian initiate the romance fits this IQ of mine better I think.
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In case anyone missed it in the Twitter thread, David Gaider tweeted a bunch of quotes from his characters for Valentine's Day.
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Post by talyn82 on Feb 17, 2017 2:37:21 GMT
I love Dorian, he is my Qunari's brother in arms. I'm straight and have never romanced him, but he is handsome, and I might romance him with another character. It depends on my mood.
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Post by eriador117 on Feb 17, 2017 12:41:47 GMT
Holy shit you can play his romance scene 2 different ways? You can actually be shy and take it slow? ***mind blown** Both scenes are adorable, I'm gonna burst from all the cuteness. Now to decide which one to go with... There are two options for the first kiss as well. Did you see both of those? At any rate, that's one of the things that I like about the Dorian romance so very much. You can really craft it to suit your Inquisitor's personality and also how you, the player, see the relationship. My Inquisitor is a total sap, and is kind of a serious person, so he doesn't often pick the humorous lines. It sometimes seems like Dorian doesn't quite know what to do with someone who is so straight forward in that sense, even though he appreciates it. I usually watch both scenes and then go with the sex version, as it fits my roleplay and canon better. They're both really great and each has their own special moments. [edit] I suggest you not watch either of the two post-sex reject options. The one to break it off gets a typical Dorian response, so it's not too bad. The one to keep it "fun" is the worst, IMO, because he completely shuts down emotionally; you can clearly see that he's disappointed. It's especially bad if you've asked him to explain things. I watched it just to see and I wanted to punch my Inquisitor in the face. I normally do both kisses, going back to earlier saves, as I love them both. And then first take the "take it slow" option, then go back and do the "about time" one as well, I really can't decide which one I like best. I've only ever seen the rejections on YouTube, I couldn't do them in my game, so sad.
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 18, 2017 21:52:01 GMT
There are two options for the first kiss as well. Did you see both of those? At any rate, that's one of the things that I like about the Dorian romance so very much. You can really craft it to suit your Inquisitor's personality and also how you, the player, see the relationship. My Inquisitor is a total sap, and is kind of a serious person, so he doesn't often pick the humorous lines. It sometimes seems like Dorian doesn't quite know what to do with someone who is so straight forward in that sense, even though he appreciates it. I usually watch both scenes and then go with the sex version, as it fits my roleplay and canon better. They're both really great and each has their own special moments. [edit] I suggest you not watch either of the two post-sex reject options. The one to break it off gets a typical Dorian response, so it's not too bad. The one to keep it "fun" is the worst, IMO, because he completely shuts down emotionally; you can clearly see that he's disappointed. It's especially bad if you've asked him to explain things. I watched it just to see and I wanted to punch my Inquisitor in the face. I normally do both kisses, going back to earlier saves, as I love them both. And then first take the "take it slow" option, then go back and do the "about time" one as well, I really can't decide which one I like best. I've only ever seen the rejections on YouTube, I couldn't do them in my game, so sad. I tried one of the break ups and then immediately reloaded. I just can't do that to Dorian.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Feb 19, 2017 7:29:15 GMT
To add to that, I did watch the utter refusal scenes (on YouTube) as well. These are the ones where you say, "No," right from the start of the quarters scene, cutting the romance off at that point. Dorian's reactions here aren't bad. There is a range from irritation at thinking he was being "toyed with" (his actual words), to disappointment if you want to be "just friends."
However, one rather lame line by the Inquisitor has him say, "I don't know what you thought, but, no." This just strikes me as stupid. Before that point, there have been at least two kisses. There will have been either the kiss after Halward OR the surprise kiss, in addition to the kiss after the amulet quest. To say nothing of any other suggestive dialogue you might have taken before that point. He doesn't know? Really? For the Inquisitor to say that he doesn't know what Dorian expected makes him seem like an ass at worst, or a total moron at best.
I mean, I get that that option is there as a final "out" for the player to stop the romance, but I'd think there could have been some other wording.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 14:25:12 GMT
To add to that, I did watch the utter refusal scenes (on YouTube) as well. These are the ones where you say, "No," right from the start of the quarters scene, cutting the romance off at that point. Dorian's reactions here aren't bad. There is a range from irritation at thinking he was being "toyed with" (his actual words), to disappointment if you want to be "just friends." However, one rather lame line by the Inquisitor has him say, "I don't know what you thought, but, no." This just strikes me as stupid. Before that point, there have been at least two kisses. There will have been either the kiss after Halward OR the surprise kiss, in addition to the kiss after the amulet quest. To say nothing of any other suggestive dialogue you might have taken before that point. He doesn't know? Really? For the Inquisitor to say that he doesn't know what Dorian expected makes him seem like an ass at worst, or a total moron at best. I mean, I get that that option is there as a final "out" for the player to stop the romance, but I'd think there could have been some other wording. Well, that does sound a touch slow from the Inquisitor, but nowhere near as priceless as in the conversation with Pavus the Elder, when the Inquisitor can ask Dorian to expound a little on what specifically "preferring a company of men" means. The hilarious thing is that the Inquisitor (after Dorian gives him a detailed run-down) has an option to say: Ah, that. Well, I did it too. I am afraid that the drama of the moment was totally lost on me at that point. You are not very bright, are you, Inquisitor? But, well, at least we have ensured in an iron-clad manner that there is no misunderstanding whatsoever. Darn, on the second thought, I should have taken the high IQ option you mention above. So, there is no second opinions and all that. Maybe Dorian was after that book on Tevinter I've borrowed all along? Then reloaded, lol. Dorian's a lovely character and a wonderful romance.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Mar 10, 2017 14:52:43 GMT
I never take the option to ask him to explain. I can see why some would take it, but it just doesn't match with how I play it out. It's a shame, as that locks out some other dialogue options. I also think it's weird that you can use that specific scene to ask whether he's ever been with a woman. Like, now is not the time, dude. It's almost like getting all of the gay questions over with in the one scene.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 15:02:54 GMT
I never take the option to ask him to explain. I can see why some would take it, but it just doesn't match with how I play it out. It's a shame, as that locks out some other dialogue options. I also think it's weird that you can use that specific scene to ask whether he's ever been with a woman. Like, now is not the time, dude. It's almost like getting all of the gay questions over with in the one scene. I just had to know what the response is. Have to credit the VA with delivering the response completely in character, while managing to elaborate. Overall, I was not a fan of them putting it in, because it really way, way too daft. I think that between the heart icons and the pop-ups that the romance is going to start they have been accommodating the player agency well enough.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Mar 10, 2017 16:04:47 GMT
Eh, to be fair, you can play your Inquisitor as totally naive about those things, even if you're planing on a romance. Even if you don't take the prior flirts, you can still start the romance later on.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 16:40:07 GMT
Eh, to be fair, you can play your Inquisitor as totally naive about those things, even if you're planing on a romance. Even if you don't take the prior flirts, you can still start the romance later on. I suppose you can. My path to Dorian was through initially playing a female PC, because the review of the player opinions indicated Solas was the most favored romantic option (I was after all going into Inquisition with a long litany of "concerns" and "reservations" about my fragile gaming egocentrism clashing with BioWARE's decisions). But as charming as Solas was, I had a few conversations with Dorian, and that was enough for me to figure out that firstly, romance restrictions hack is not going to work, and secondly, is that Dorian is the one, and I shall turn heavens and earth to romance him... erm, actually just sacrifice 20 hours of gaming time. My careful pre-game prep did not prepare me to just how much I am going to like the character and how much his dialogues about the faded glories of Tevinter's Imperial past and his attitude toward it are going to impact me. So, yes, I have a hard time imagining a playthrough where you are not dead-determined to romance Dorian specifically, but yes, yes, it's probable. Not me, but probable. Still, Inquisitor is not too bright satisfying his or her curiosity during the Pavus vs Pavus incident.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 10, 2017 19:47:55 GMT
Well, to be fair, just because it is totally obvious to us, doesn't mean in the context of the game world that a character would be totally clued up on the subject. First run I knew as a player that Dorian was gay but my female elf didn't. She initially only had eyes for Solas, until she went through time with Dorian. After that she was really torn between the two of them. Solas seemed to be playing it cool after the first kiss but Dorian was flirting away and if you aren't aware of how different he is with a male PC (which my female character wasn't) then she would naturally think he was interested, particularly as having been raised among the Dalish she is not going to be so worldly wise as some other races. So the rather naïve questioning of Dorian seemed appropriate when his preference was finally revealed to her. His response was rather sweet too; not the one when he explains what the "prefer the company of men" means (which is the same to anyone) but to the "no women at all?" and then later when she suggests he led her on. There was a sense of regret there and "if only" which matched her own feelings. That having been sorted out, they settled for being devoted friends, which was just as well as it turned out because she really needed a shoulder to cry on after Solas.
Incidentally, I much prefer Dorian to Solas and did so even before the revelations of Trespasser. His romance is my canon play through.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Mar 14, 2017 19:14:40 GMT
Pretty sure that guys were having an interesting discussion and all but I'm going to put this here because it made me LOL. Enjoy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 19:22:50 GMT
Darn, if IB looked like that, it would have made the game a little bit better.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 18, 2017 15:17:49 GMT
Having established who the gay option is meant to be in Andromeda I don't think he is going to be a serious threat to Dorian as my favourite gay romance or any romance for that matter. May be the guy will have an interesting backstory or romance arc but it was always going to be something of a miracle to challenge Dorian in that respect. To be honest, I think they will have to go some in the next Dragon Age game to come up with a character that captivates me as much as he has.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 18, 2017 15:20:57 GMT
What makes him so special? Eh, I will never understand that. Maybe his impressive mustache... but not – that's Stroud.
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