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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 0:27:50 GMT
Scimitar isn't completely useless, but on that level I'd rather take the Eviscerator or the Disciple over it. The Raptor, on the other hand, is really good even on Gold for caster kits who benefit from distance and low-weight. As I've already stated in the Uncommon weapons thread, I regularly do the Raptor Challenge on my Vorcha Hunter. Modded out with Piercing Mod, High-Velocity-Barrel and Incendiary Rounds - and you got yourself a precise quick shooting gun able to take out any armored target or mook with Submission Net or Incinerate. You'll struggle a little bit with shields or barriers, but not too much. Try it out, it works really well and is quite fun
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 0:38:11 GMT
Instead of "bad" why dont we just say "not a ohk" cause thats all these threads are saying...
Reegar = bad gun. It gold/rare that outdoes a fuckin' Widow in raw damage. Eviscerator = good gun. Its silver/uncommon with rescetable stats.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 0:46:02 GMT
Raptor is actually a stastically pretty good weapon. Lightweight, accurate and good DPS, with a negligible hipfire penalty. As long as you aren't a baby fingered weakling, it's an outright upgrade to the Ultra Rare Indra. I've shown a few sceptical BSNers what it's capable of.
Scimitar is utter garbage and in contention for worst weapon in the game. At point blank it does about half the Raptor's DPS, nevermind being completely useless past 10 feet. It doesn't deserve to even be in the shotgun class, as the only thing its OHKing is husks (if you're lucky).
I've no idea how this is even a contest. Raptor is a plat viable primary, while I'd literally rather have the Shuriken than the Shitmitar.
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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Sept 9, 2016 1:52:36 GMT
The scimitar is the revenant of shotguns...horrible shot spread and cant kill anything WAT YOU SAY, CUPCAKE!!?
PREPARE YOURSELF
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Post by Clyde on Sept 9, 2016 2:11:11 GMT
I prefer Scimitar; I like to save my fingers for something more rewarding. Raptor isn't bad though.
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Post by BountyhunterGER on Sept 9, 2016 9:33:15 GMT
Raptor, what else?
The constant clicking is a non-issue for anyone who defeated the warrior at the end of borderlands 2 using a low damage jakobs revolver because.. reasons.
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Post by neocodex and 23 others on Sept 9, 2016 10:12:22 GMT
The Raptor's actually not too bad on, you guessed it, the TSol. Never bothered with the Scimitar because I got the Claymore quite early. --- Scimitar's damage is 44. Although I don't know if it's 44 per pellet or 44 total, we can all agree that it sucks balls. I actually moded my Raptor to deal 307 damage and tested it yesterday for "science". Now that's way more useful, it feels like a proper low damage fast firing SR rather than a painful pew-pew underwhelming gun. It's 44 per pellet, times 6.5. It is supposed to fire 8 pellets, but if we trust in damage numbers on Kalence it's roughly 6.5 for all shotguns except GPS and Graal (and Talon at 5). 286 base damage on high rate of fire is still not that bad. This is almost an entire clip of Predator, mind you. As I said before, buffing base 44 to 65 makes Scimitar and amazing shotgun which completely replaced my Wraith on a few builds because the faster fire rate and bigger clip helps on class playstyles where your weapon is just a secondary tool and you want to focus less on dealing with your weapon and more on your powers and movement. Wraith, as amazing as it is, can be quite sluggish sometimes. Alternative is the Talon, but we want some diversity, right? It's not good enough in vanilla to be competitive with Talon for this role but with a slight buff it can be a viable and fun alternative.
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Post by dzejkob on Sept 9, 2016 21:10:30 GMT
So today i decided to finish off shotgun mastery and felt like doing Scimitar (on gold solo) and it's not a bad weapon up to gold (specially against mooks), honestly! I think people should think of it more as an assault shotgun rather than just shogun. sendvid.com/9q159wddalso sorry for no pop up video, sendvid doesn't like it
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Post by nucleartech76 on Sept 9, 2016 22:56:11 GMT
Bring your goddamn GI and I'll take your lunch with my vanilla solider with a scimitar. The scimitar is an awesome weapon if you can use it properly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 23:06:25 GMT
I used the scimitar a while back and topscored a pug lobby with an explosive rounds widow and typhoon n7-furry, an off-host n7 slayer with a hornet and no equipment or gear, and a melee juggernaut with a disciple who didn't spec siege pulse
The scimitar must be Good.
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Post by nucleartech76 on Sept 9, 2016 23:11:29 GMT
I mean I don't want to brag but I'm a bad mofo with the scimitar. I make good players pull their hair out with that weapon bc they underestimate it. It's repeated ammo application not raw damage. If you spam concussive shot and prioritize humanoid targets not many players can keep pace.
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Post by Heroicmass on Sept 11, 2016 0:38:51 GMT
Scimitar for me and it isn't close. I actually like both it and the Katana
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