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Post by bizantura on May 16, 2017 12:24:38 GMT
On a forum dedicated to Bioware games, lots of people are disrupted by mentioning CDPR's Witcher 3. It is like waving a red cloth at a bull.
Go to the Slavic Witcher 3 forum and Bioware games are mentioned from time to time and that is about it.
For so many here both franchises can't exist simultaneously and thrive it seems, let alone dare criticize MEA. You are accused of being responsible for the downfall and fantasized stopping of the series.
Maybe Bioware closed their forum due to constant drama!!! Constructive criticism vs scuttlebutt drama fantasies, which do you like most!
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Post by maxon on May 16, 2017 13:42:08 GMT
So what're you saying? That shiney plastic face Shep is better than the other two? I mean I like ME2 (and parts of ME3) but let's not pretend the faces were good.
Having said that, I'm not over-enamoured of the CC in MEA
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Post by The Twilight God on May 16, 2017 16:53:22 GMT
<insert tons of sarcastic posts> That's a lot of salt, dude.
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Post by projectpatdc on May 16, 2017 18:36:32 GMT
<insert tons of sarcastic posts> That's a lot of salt, dude. I had fun
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Post by projectpatdc on May 16, 2017 18:41:37 GMT
The overall graphics, textures and scenerey looks good but almost all characters look better in me2 facially. I played it the other day and the character models look way better. Maybe not the textures but their overall design. Agree to disagree. The look decent, but not way better. None of the character models look amazing in any of the games compared to other games, but the quantity is much higher in Mass Effect. I certainly appreciate the graphics is all the games. Even Mass Effect 1 still looks "good" I don't get how, post patch, people even consider Andromeda's visuals to be bad in the slightest.
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Post by suikoden on May 16, 2017 18:56:28 GMT
I like this comparison better... CDProjekt aren't a "couple" of independents, though, they were a decent sized studio when they started development on Witcher 3, and their budget was double that of the budget for ME:A. Except no it wasn't. Keep spouting those lies though - I know it mitigates the pain of what a clusterfuck Andromeda ended up being. If only Bioware had more money! The game wouldn't suck!!
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Post by smilesja on May 16, 2017 21:33:05 GMT
CDProjekt aren't a "couple" of independents, though, they were a decent sized studio when they started development on Witcher 3, and their budget was double that of the budget for ME:A. Except no it wasn't. Keep spouting those lies though - I know it mitigates the pain of what a clusterfuck Andromeda ended up being. If only Bioware had more money! The game wouldn't suck!! He didn't say that.
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Post by The Twilight God on May 17, 2017 1:13:16 GMT
CDProjekt aren't a "couple" of independents, though, they were a decent sized studio when they started development on Witcher 3, and their budget was double that of the budget for ME:A. Except no it wasn't. Keep spouting those lies though - I know it mitigates the pain of what a clusterfuck Andromeda ended up being. If only Bioware had more money! The game wouldn't suck!! How much was the budget for Witcher 3?
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Post by KaiserShep on May 17, 2017 1:23:35 GMT
CDProjekt aren't a "couple" of independents, though, they were a decent sized studio when they started development on Witcher 3, and their budget was double that of the budget for ME:A. Except no it wasn't. Keep spouting those lies though - I know it mitigates the pain of what a clusterfuck Andromeda ended up being. If only Bioware had more money! The game wouldn't suck!! The point is that people start getting away with this to the point where you'd think that CDPR was just some tiny studio with a handful of guys that can spin straw into gold or something. No one questions their competence, but the estimation of their actual size is questionable. But I guess that's what happens when the word "independent" gets thrown in. Anyway, a quick Google gets me that the budget for the game was 306M Polish zloty, which brings it a bit over 82.5M USD at the current rate. If there's an alternate source I'm all…eyes?
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Post by decafhigh on May 17, 2017 1:32:06 GMT
The overall graphics, textures and scenerey looks good but almost all characters look better in me2 facially. I played it the other day and the character models look way better. Maybe not the textures but their overall design. He'd fit right in for Andromeda.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 17, 2017 2:09:25 GMT
Prince didn't die. He just became the Wizard of Oz Well said. And too funny.
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Post by CrutchCricket on May 17, 2017 3:04:12 GMT
Just a bit of clean-up. Keep it tidy and sans personal attacks please.
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 17, 2017 6:08:07 GMT
CDProjekt aren't a "couple" of independents, though, they were a decent sized studio when they started development on Witcher 3, and their budget was double that of the budget for ME:A. Except no it wasn't. Keep spouting those lies though - I know it mitigates the pain of what a clusterfuck Andromeda ended up being. If only Bioware had more money! The game wouldn't suck!! You're one to talk, do you hear yourself? "FACTS? FUCK YOU, YOU MUST BE A BLIND BIOWARE FANBOY." I'm actually extremely critical of BioWare, and ME:A in particular. Just not for the reasons you care about.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 14:44:26 GMT
CDProjekt aren't a "couple" of independents, though, they were a decent sized studio when they started development on Witcher 3, and their budget was double that of the budget for ME:A. Except no it wasn't. Keep spouting those lies though - I know it mitigates the pain of what a clusterfuck Andromeda ended up being. If only Bioware had more money! The game wouldn't suck!! The Witcher 3 had a development team of 249 professionals. Over 1000 people was involved with the game during the entire development cycle. These are numbers given to us by CDRP. We also know the budget was 81 million dollars. CD Projekt Red at this point is like 1/5 of the stock value of Square Enix. Let that sink in. Square Enix is one of the biggest players in gaming, and have been around for 30 years at the least. This isn't some small Polish studio that just made a game for fun and had it be a great success. It was not an indie development. It was full blown AAA with a big budget to back it. Now stop spouting your hate and lies, it is getting old.
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Post by Kappa Neko on May 17, 2017 18:12:51 GMT
Yeah they fucked up everything that has to do with people in MEA. Faces, body proportions, animations. Everything.
And I do think the game lacks an iconic style like the trilogy had, especially ME2.
But going by textures and lighting effects and all that post processing stuff, MEA is one of the prettiest games I've ever played. Definitely when it comes to RPGs which never look as good as a 10h shooter.
The surface textures are the best I've seen to date in any game. The ice caves, wow...
Both MEA and DAI have superior landscape TEXTURES to W3. Especially the flora in W3 looks like crap close up. Blurry as fuck. Buildings aren't impressive either if you look closely. Leaves in DAI are super hi-res on PC. The thing is that W3 focused on people, especially armor is extremely detailed. Beards in W3 look GREAT. So sure, if you only compare faces, MEA looks like crap in comparison to Ciri or Geralt.
I would even say DAI had a better art style. W3 has little variety to offer. Mostly European countryside (dictated by the setting of course). An idealized version but... I remember how disappointed I was about W3 at first visually. I don't really care for a realistic look in games. I liked how diverse and colorful DAI was.
MEA while pretty looks a bit bland. Generic desert, generic ice world... Havarl has a really nice look and atmosphere though. Doesn't look THAT alien but offers something that's definitely not a part of Earth stretched over a whole planet.
Fun but bland is how I would describe MEA. It lacks personality. W3 oozes personality through characters and world building, less so the environments. Lots of attention to detail. A populated world too. Going by texture quality alone W3 is not the prettiest game out there. That downgrade was real. I was so not impressed with the graphics. Good but didn't understand all the drooling online, DAI looked better. There is a consistent style though. And style and overall art design is what people notice and often mistake for superior graphics. And there is nothing remarkable about MEA. So it SEEMS worse than the trilogy when cleary from a technical point of view the graphics in MEA are much much better. The skin textures are better too. The hair textures while bad are still way way better than the trilogy.
I consider W3 a much better game than DAI or MEA, but credit where credit is due. The visuals of the game are actually not the problem here. It's how nothing came together well to form a coherent and compelling product that makes MEA look like a bland jumbled together mess riddled with bugs.
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