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Post by zipzap2000 on May 11, 2017 15:09:24 GMT
I actually never liked Shepard. You don't deserve to be fed or watered and should probably be chained to a tree and sacrificed at saturnalia.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on May 11, 2017 15:13:01 GMT
Reaper GOD Shep against Ryder ?... uh, poor boy.
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Post by decafhigh on May 11, 2017 15:17:04 GMT
Shepard would never fight a kid, Ryder would just be ignored and forgotten whil Shepard invades the ktt homeworld and wipes out the kett LOL I can see it now. Ryder tries to face off with Shepard, Shep grabs his gun from him, smacks it a few times, gives it back to him and casually says "Get your money back kid."
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Post by zipzap2000 on May 11, 2017 15:17:38 GMT
I like Shepard and I really enjoyed my time with her. However, I also think that after all Shepard has done, she deserves to be left alone. She suffered, and struggled and completed her mission, time to let her die or enjoy her retirement in peace. Besides by the time of MEA she is dead. Shepard can't die he can only be put in a position were he has to be resurrected again.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 15:19:11 GMT
My Shepard would look at the rookie and tell her/him when she/he deals with reapers like Shepard has, my Shepard would give the rookie the time of day My renegade Shepard would do this if he/she arrived on the scene and found it to be the royal clusterfuck that it was pre Eos Vault going live. But any other not pure renegade version of my Shepard would realize this is Ryder's job and not his/hers. My Shepard would trust said rookie to learn the way just like Shepard did but be there if needed and provide as much support in the background as possible. My Shepard would most likely lead Strike teams knowing that he/she was not able to turn the vaults on without that AI. I think my Shepard would be very cautious with the AI/Ryder situation to a degree. Would probably want to have a sit down with both of them to be sure that this AI could be trusted and would shoot Ryder in the head without hesitation at the first sign it could not be. But since SAM would pass that test, my Shepard would find another role where he/she could be far more effective. Likely it would be strike teams and we would have learned a ton more about the Kett by the end of game. In fact, I'm sure my Shepard would have invaded their home world before the end of game and gathered a ton of intel about them. Maybe ryder will do that next time. And maybe SAM will finallly STFU.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 11, 2017 15:31:57 GMT
Because we all want to watch Shepard tear the little doormat to shreds and break SAM for being a machine that can be broken. I am 100% sure we don't all want that. I know I don't. I love my Ryder, albeit I've had to head canon parts of his story to make it workable for me. I am not always fond of how they handle Ryder. I think Ryder is too green and they should have made ryder be a bit less green, have some more experience under the belt, and be a bit older. Right now ryder is essentially an AI led protag with a second protag being SAM. They could have saved Ryder by making Ryder the leader more than SAM and the fact that they didn't recognize this issue is pretty terrible writing. But they did recognize it because Archon calls Ryder on it and Ryder has to defend him/herself but kind of looks pathetic in doing it. And even some of Ryder's responses are still not about what ryder did but what ryder did with SAM's help. Sure, the end is kind of all you but oh wait, not really because now your sibling is doing heaving lifting and you are the equivalent of a hired gun. SAM will always be the monumental failing of story of our protag. That the writers did not even grasp what they were doing, how they were putting Ryder in the back seat second to the AI in Ryder's head, is incomprehensible. One has to wonder if any of them had any formal training in the craft of writing, if they ever read a book or studied literature. If they ever even learned anything about the hero's journey. Said hero faces many trials and tribulations and said hero may accept help from others along the way but said hero is never guided nearly from start to finish by a helper who never shuts up and never gives them the chance to survive even basic situations on their own. Ryder can't even have the temperature drop or figure out how to handle a mining tool without SAM chiming it. How the hell then is Ryder supposed to be a hero of any magnitude when the AI does nearly all the work? In my story, SAM is generally ignored by my Ryder and considered a burden cast upon him by his somewhat asshole father. SAM is a tool, a tool that never shuts up, but a tool he uses to make planets more livable. That is what SAM should have been. A much more silent version of itself with the prompts coming from Ryder rather than SAM at least twice as much as SAM. Ryder needed to be a bit more professional I think. They could still have been a wiseass but with SAM leading the way for nearly the whole journey, Ryder can be easily relegated to a second rate protag. A fair criticism. Thing is, I actually really like SAM, or rather, the idea of him. I even really like the symbiosis thing. An easy way to get around this would be to have Ryder be the one to make more assessments throughout the story. Like, if Ryder was the one to suggest dying to escape the stasis trap, that would have made a big difference (and I love that scene). However, I'd argue that this is a problem the protagonists of Mass Effect have possessed for a while. I'd go as far to say that TIM and EDI are the real heroes of ME2, because without them, we'd have absolutely no idea what to do and where to go. Heck setting the trap on Horizon was actually pretty clever, and I like how TIM shuts Shepard down if s/he complains about it. Our PC's are generally just the martial strength of the story, but not really the problem solvers in and of themselves.
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Post by codephat on May 11, 2017 15:37:38 GMT
I actually never liked Shepard. You don't deserve to be fed or watered and should probably be chained to a tree and sacrificed at saturnalia. I like where this is going.
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Post by kino on May 11, 2017 16:01:42 GMT
My Shepard would look at the rookie and tell her/him when she/he deals with reapers like Shepard has, my Shepard would give the rookie the time of day My renegade Shepard would do this if he/she arrived on the scene and found it to be the royal clusterfuck that it was pre Eos Vault going live. But any other not pure renegade version of my Shepard would realize this is Ryder's job and not his/hers. My Shepard would trust said rookie to learn the way just like Shepard did but be there if needed and provide as much support in the background as possible. My Shepard would most likely lead Strike teams knowing that he/she was not able to turn the vaults on without that AI. I think my Shepard would be very cautious with the AI/Ryder situation to a degree. Would probably want to have a sit down with both of them to be sure that this AI could be trusted and would shoot Ryder in the head without hesitation at the first sign it could not be. But since SAM would pass that test, my Shepard would find another role where he/she could be far more effective. Likely it would be strike teams and we would have learned a ton more about the Kett by the end of game. In fact, I'm sure my Shepard would have invaded their home world before the end of game and gathered a ton of intel about them. Maybe ryder will do that next time. And maybe SAM will finallly STFU. I'm mostly fine with SAM dialog, giving hints and whatnot, but for pity's sake stop telling me this area has resources that can be mined after the first couple of hours of the game. That should be a tutorial message, not a constant reminder.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 11, 2017 16:15:45 GMT
I just never activate the mining console. I can get tons of space rocks elsewhere.....silently.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 11, 2017 16:23:36 GMT
Because we all want to watch Shepard tear the little doormat to shreds and break SAM for being a machine that can be broken. I am 100% sure we don't all want that. I know I don't. I love my Ryder, albeit I've had to head canon parts of his story to make it workable for me. I am not always fond of how they handle Ryder. I think Ryder is too green and they should have made ryder be a bit less green, have some more experience under the belt, and be a bit older. Right now ryder is essentially an AI led protag with a second protag being SAM. They could have saved Ryder by making Ryder the leader more than SAM and the fact that they didn't recognize this issue is pretty terrible writing. But they did recognize it because Archon calls Ryder on it and Ryder has to defend him/herself but kind of looks pathetic in doing it. And even some of Ryder's responses are still not about what ryder did but what ryder did with SAM's help. Sure, the end is kind of all you but oh wait, not really because now your sibling is doing heaving lifting and you are the equivalent of a hired gun. SAM will always be the monumental failing of story of our protag. That the writers did not even grasp what they were doing, how they were putting Ryder in the back seat second to the AI in Ryder's head, is incomprehensible. One has to wonder if any of them had any formal training in the craft of writing, if they ever read a book or studied literature. If they ever even learned anything about the hero's journey. Said hero faces many trials and tribulations and said hero may accept help from others along the way but said hero is never guided nearly from start to finish by a helper who never shuts up and never gives them the chance to survive even basic situations on their own. Ryder can't even have the temperature drop or figure out how to handle a mining tool without SAM chiming it. How the hell then is Ryder supposed to be a hero of any magnitude when the AI does nearly all the work? In my story, SAM is generally ignored by my Ryder and considered a burden cast upon him by his somewhat asshole father. SAM is a tool, a tool that never shuts up, but a tool he uses to make planets more livable. That is what SAM should have been. A much more silent version of itself with the prompts coming from Ryder rather than SAM at least twice as much as SAM. Ryder needed to be a bit more professional I think. They could still have been a wiseass but with SAM leading the way for nearly the whole journey, Ryder can be easily relegated to a second rate protag. Yeah agreed I'd like to thimnk my Shrep's and Ryder's would be friends. They would at least have mutual respect for each other trying to survive against insurmountable odds.
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Post by xetykins on May 11, 2017 17:07:17 GMT
I would buy that. Somehow I always think of the fem Ryder as that kid who inlist as a merc at the beginning of finding Garus. So if there's a dlc Shep would pack the sister neatly to Spectre school and romance the hell out of the Scotty.
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Post by Light on May 11, 2017 17:13:33 GMT
Shepard would never fight a kid, Ryder would just be ignored and forgotten whil Shepard invades the ktt homeworld and wipes out the kett LOL I can see it now. Ryder tries to face off with Shepard, Shep grabs his gun from him, smacks it a few times, gives it back to him and casually says "Get your money back kid."
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Post by aoibhealfae on May 11, 2017 17:19:10 GMT
....are you asking for fanfic?
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Post by AGECCR on May 11, 2017 17:20:29 GMT
I'd buy that for a dollar Damn, cool pic
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Post by KaiserShep on May 11, 2017 17:35:48 GMT
I am 100% sure we don't all want that. I know I don't. I love my Ryder, albeit I've had to head canon parts of his story to make it workable for me. I am not always fond of how they handle Ryder. I think Ryder is too green and they should have made ryder be a bit less green, have some more experience under the belt, and be a bit older. Right now ryder is essentially an AI led protag with a second protag being SAM. They could have saved Ryder by making Ryder the leader more than SAM and the fact that they didn't recognize this issue is pretty terrible writing. But they did recognize it because Archon calls Ryder on it and Ryder has to defend him/herself but kind of looks pathetic in doing it. And even some of Ryder's responses are still not about what ryder did but what ryder did with SAM's help. Sure, the end is kind of all you but oh wait, not really because now your sibling is doing heaving lifting and you are the equivalent of a hired gun. SAM will always be the monumental failing of story of our protag. That the writers did not even grasp what they were doing, how they were putting Ryder in the back seat second to the AI in Ryder's head, is incomprehensible. One has to wonder if any of them had any formal training in the craft of writing, if they ever read a book or studied literature. If they ever even learned anything about the hero's journey. Said hero faces many trials and tribulations and said hero may accept help from others along the way but said hero is never guided nearly from start to finish by a helper who never shuts up and never gives them the chance to survive even basic situations on their own. Ryder can't even have the temperature drop or figure out how to handle a mining tool without SAM chiming it. How the hell then is Ryder supposed to be a hero of any magnitude when the AI does nearly all the work? In my story, SAM is generally ignored by my Ryder and considered a burden cast upon him by his somewhat asshole father. SAM is a tool, a tool that never shuts up, but a tool he uses to make planets more livable. That is what SAM should have been. A much more silent version of itself with the prompts coming from Ryder rather than SAM at least twice as much as SAM. Ryder needed to be a bit more professional I think. They could still have been a wiseass but with SAM leading the way for nearly the whole journey, Ryder can be easily relegated to a second rate protag. Yeah agreed I'd like to thimnk my Shrep's and Ryder's would be friends. They would at least have mutual respect for each other trying to survive against insurmountable odds. I guess the thing that's easy to forget is that game PC's are oblivious to fan forum contests.
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Post by henkiedepost on May 11, 2017 17:41:03 GMT
I actually never liked Shepard. You don't deserve to be fed or watered and should probably be chained to a tree and sacrificed at saturnalia. Fetch..... THE COMFY CHAIR!
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Post by babe145869 on May 11, 2017 19:23:50 GMT
Because we all want to watch Shepard tear the little doormat to shreds and break SAM for being a machine that can be broken. BioWare should make this DLC that Shepard arrives via a bizarre space magic time Warp that sends him to Andromeda instead of killing him. This the breath scene in the secret ending at the end of Mass Effect 3 if you pick destroy. After showing up and reducing the Kett to a comefy routine through a series of witty insults and destroying them absolute ease hw finds out about a rogue AI that got installed into everyones heads. Named SAM it niw refers to itself as MAC; an acronym for Mutated Adaptive Consciousness. He needs to fight Ryder and MAC to steal an ARK and fly it close enough to a black hole to affect time and space while jumping to FTL through the black hole to make it back to just after he left the milky way. The Assault on the Nexus now begins. Find your missing crew members from the OT and take down Ryder and his MAC. Bring back paragon and renegade and the power wheel. One last DLC to end the franchise humiliating and destroying the DB character at its core. One last story...... Thoughts? *Swirls Ryncol* That would be great, especially bringing back the p/r and power wheel. Although I'd also like the warp, AI hack, and dominate abilities as well.
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Post by decafhigh on May 11, 2017 20:46:54 GMT
LOL I can see it now. Ryder tries to face off with Shepard, Shep grabs his gun from him, smacks it a few times, gives it back to him and casually says "Get your money back kid." ROFLMAO!!
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on May 11, 2017 20:47:58 GMT
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Post by cobalt72 on May 11, 2017 21:14:57 GMT
Meh, Shepard's a little too played out.
Plus, would've been more interesting if he/she could've killed Miranda and Jacob after finding out they'really Cerberus. Talk about being a doormat
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Post by zipzap2000 on May 11, 2017 23:42:30 GMT
I would buy that. Somehow I always think of the fem Ryder as that kid who inlist as a merc at the beginning of finding Garus. So if there's a dlc Shep would pack the sister neatly to Spectre school and romance the hell out of the Scotty. Youre a classy character and the BSN salutes you.
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Post by decafhigh on May 11, 2017 23:50:21 GMT
I would buy that. Somehow I always think of the fem Ryder as that kid who inlist as a merc at the beginning of finding Garus. So if there's a dlc Shep would pack the sister neatly to Spectre school and romance the hell out of the Scotty. I had it the other way around. Sara at least saw some combat, Scott only ever sat around staring out the window. And if there is any romancing to be involved it will definitely be with dat azz..
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on May 11, 2017 23:50:33 GMT
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Post by projectpatdc on May 11, 2017 23:51:38 GMT
Frankly I'll take any single-player dlc at this point as long it wraps up some of the loose threads.
I don't think we are getting any.
Edit: but at the same time, we possibly could. voice actors have tweeted about doing more work. Just wonder which studio will be producing the dlc
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Post by KaiserShep on May 11, 2017 23:58:40 GMT
Ryder: Hey bitch, wanna fight? Shepard: Wow, you're serious? Ryder: Yeah, I have a jetpack u r fukd Shepard: <Reaves Ryder>, <Warps Ryder> Killfeed: Shepard [Biotic Explosion]Ryder Shepard: lol On a 4th wall level, I wonder if Shepard would possess warp and reave in this new jack setting. That being said, I do wonder how backlash would work against powers like warp and reave.
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