TURIAN AGENT BUILD GUIDE -Recon Visor,Tactical Cloak build

if you took the time to type that out there's no way you're bs'ing about it.I'll have to rebuild it and give it another go.Ideally I want to have Recon visor at rank 6 so maybe I'll have to take some points out of Tactical Cloak and Munitions training. Should I go to rank 6 on the flamethrower ?

Just a quick game before I head out of town for the weekend. Same setup, no boosters, no cobras, just a rank 1 ushior (I had a hurricane too, but rarely used), not my best play at all + laggy host and versus good ol Remnant.

Not 30k this time, but just wanted to show what I consistently score with this setup bare (no boosters/cobras)- even with less than stellar play + lag. When I say less than stellar play, I mean yoloing unnecessarily with flamethrower on observers that still have plenty of shields up, missing Ushior shots, not using visor enough, not using tact cloak smartly, overall just being a scrub - though I obviously mad an effort rez teammates

Obviously the team doesn't have an ideal setup versus Remnant I suppose, and looking at the performance of the bottom two, clearly there was some carrying leading to a more top heavier score. Regardless, it was still a sub 20min run, which is avg - so it's not like I was soloing the map. The Kineticist was doing some lifting too.

I'm usually in a bad mood after playing poorly - especially after work, yet I'm not - because I still had a blast.

Like, I don't even want to go out of town - Agent is so fun~

Use a Dhan and shields don't matter. I'm conflicted on range vs DoT damage Flamer. 

Flamer is an easy way to trigger your insta shields in between your good cool downs. It's a flaming panic button

After using both dot is way better, and it's not even close.

he's a top tier character yes

but he's not as good as the other infiltrators. No +25% clip size, no useful sticky grenades make him weaker than the other infiltrators. 

then again... the SI and the Turian Agent are probably  close to equal, but definitely not better than the human

the 80% debuff is nearly fucking useless. Even then, it's only for 5 seconds (which is negligible), and since killing enemies are so slow using flamer it's not worth the points invested. why waste DPS time just to debuff an enemy when i could just shoot it in the head? A dead enemy is better than a debuffed enemy.  Relying on flamethrower to kill enemies is TOO slow. This isn't ME3 where flamer would wope everything in the map, flamethrower is WAY weaker than ME3's flamer

the 25% debuff armor reduction on the visor is more useful 

and what's with ppl disagreeing on fitness? You do realize the agent has one of the better fitness trees in the game. 

1 point on flamethrower is enough. If a pesky adhi is after you or multiple mooks need to be burned/panic'd, that's the only use of it. Relying it for useless debuffs or damage is too useless/negligible. 

What the fuck are you talking about? The effect lasts 12 secs when fully specced. You can apply the effect to a group (3+) of red bars in 3secs (less depending how close they are together). Once the effect is applied, they're fucked. You can leave and they'll die from the dot. For armored or beefier red bars, you've made it so they don't do shit for those 12secs and can do whatever you want to them. You either haven't played the spec or aren't using it correctly. As I've said before, if you're using flamethrower past just applying the debuff and dot - you're wrong. If the spec was so mother fucking useless, why can I roflstomp and carry gold so hard with it?

Relying on flamethrower for damage is too slow for killing enemies(especially on gold and against the remnant/kett where most of them have shields) and the time you used up to debuff the enemy would've been used to kill him instead.  Do you not understand what DPS is?

What are you going to do? wait for them to shoot you with their -50% debuffed guns?(notice i said 50% because the turian agent gets 30% regardless if you spec flamethrower) You do realize, as a person using the turian agent, you don't need that extra -50% debuff. YOU ALREADY HAVE TACTICAL CLOAK TO KEEP YOU ALIVE OR DRAW AGGRO AWAY FROM YOU. Also, it's only a 50% debuff advantage(if you spec on fitness, the agent gets 30% weapon enemy debuff)

I agree with hobo on this, speccing anymore points on flamethrower is a waste of points. The power doesn't fit with the character. He should've had trip mine or flak cannon instead(although he would be too powerful)

Reading this, it's obvious you do not know how to use specced flamethrower effectively. You do not know how to use the spec and you keep making arguments based off of inexperience with properly using this setup. Shit like, "What are you going to do? wait for them to shoot you with their -50% debuffed guns", and "YOU ALREADY HAVE TACTICAL CLOAK TO KEEP YOU ALIVE", makes this super obvious.

You're rambling on like this is some sort of theorycraft debate - which maybe inside your head, it is. For me, I've already played the setup effectively through multiple games, on gold versus every faction and I know it is extremely effective against all of them. I've already posted how to use this shit. 

It's also clear that you're the one that does not know how DPS works, or else you'd know that the DoT rolling on multiple targets can achieve very high DPS. Not to mention once the DoT is applied, which it gets applied nearly instantly, you can use your weapon in addition to the DoT rolling. Except you don't need to as they will die from the DoT. If it's something like a zerker that won't die from the DoT alone, don't worry, you can stand there like a fucktard if you like and not have to worry since it wont be doing shit to you - or if you're smart, you'll just shoot it in the head until it dies. For less stellar enemies, I've already told you what to do after you apply the DoT - you leave them there to burn to death while moving on to a different area to kill other shit/do the same thing. Why would you wait around wasting time when they are already doomed and will do mickey mouse damage to anyone during their remaining life span? Saying mickey mouse damage is generous though, since most of the time they do nothing but hide behind cover and burn to death from the DoT.

I also do not understand why you think speccing into flamethrower means you do not have access to your weapon and recon visor or some stupid shit. Like speccing into flamethrower means you have to run around the map like a fucktard holding down flamethrower until it goes on cooldown, after which you must retreat until it's back up again. 

You also shouldn't be an idiot by using flamethrower when there's just one red bar enemy if you're capable of instagibbing it. Again, you use flamethrower for multiple enemy engagements (which you can easily setup with recon visor+tact cloak) and for neutering fatty mcboombooms. I also don't get this shield excuse bullshit. Again, do you not have a weapon that is capable of breaking shields? Again, does speccing into flamethrower make it so you can't do anything except scotch taping down the key/button bound to flamethrower?

Then there's this shit, "it's only a 50% debuff advantage". Only? Really? Going from 30% to 80% is a big fucking deal. That's the difference of a hydra still being able to fuck you up compared to it not doing shit. That's the difference between you getting shredded by the 4 enemies you just jumped and you successfully emerging from that engagement like a boss. The debuff also doesn't just benefit you, if benefits you're entire team. You clearly haven't tested the difference between 30% and 80%. Don't worry though, I have - and it's huge. 

"...the time you used up to debuff the enemy would've been used to kill him instead. Do you not understand what DPS is?"
Aren't you the one that was complaining in a separate thread that you can't reliably kill shit w/o stuns because they move too much? Lol plz, you ain't killin shit. 

he needs to take the blue pill