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Post by mega on May 12, 2017 9:17:08 GMT
Hi, after yesterday I concluded I have a big problem with PUG's, public matches via matchmaking.
My problem, which many others probably suffer, is that now every single lobby is hosting Outlaws in Firebase Zero. Out of 50+ attempts, only found a couple lobbies running random all, or remnant enemy.
Searching for custom matches, filtering by map or enemy type doesn't help. When I host, even with ports open, people doesn't join, only once the match has begun, or after a rematch, when host leaves and then I am host.
I know this map / enemy type abuse has been very popular, and mass effect 3 also had a similar problem. But it's never been like now.
I don't mind a few matches there, the problem is it's practically your only option!
OK a solution is not playing public matches, but for once I enjoy playing silently, and not needing to add / make parties but just play.
Looks like most gamers mind are possessed by a hive mind that prevents individual thinking?
Well, in addition to debating about this, maybe somebody has an idea, trick, or solution? Or maybe something we could suggest devs to implement, like map lists with forced rotation, a bonus to exp and credits if you rematch against a different map, or some kind of mechanic to avoid this problem. I don't care if others want to repeat same thing, enjoying just 1/10th of the multiplayers variety regarding maps and enemies, but I am forced to it!
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Post by Pounce de León on May 12, 2017 9:24:25 GMT
Just slowpokes that haven't yet realised that Outlaws are actually harder now.
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Post by niroz on May 12, 2017 9:28:35 GMT
Random/Random bonus, APEX missions that apply to silver/gold, bigger APEX mission rewards, weekly faction/map rotation bonuses, faction/map challenges that provide actual benefits instead of a fucking shitty dog tag sticker, lobby map/faction rotation system that ramps up bonuses the longer you stay and play, etc, etc, etc, etc.
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Post by SalMasRac on May 12, 2017 9:40:41 GMT
Most the APEX Missions actually make the game EASIER instead of challenging. When I log in for a few hours of MEA I typically farm the Gold APEX Mission and have an easy match, with bonus Creds and XP. Sometimes this does result in an APEX Mission Farm which is Zero Outlaws. When that happens, I camp the LZ side of the map and make a conscious effort not to even set foot near the usual campsite.
Until Wave 7, that is, when I immediately head over there, sometimes passing pugs who immediately head to the LZ. So we swap places. That amuses me. Even moreso when they wipe out.
Yeah it can get kinda boring but this is the MEA version of Challenge Weekends now, so suck it up, N7 Princess.
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Post by cdrshepard on May 12, 2017 9:58:11 GMT
I also wish the dev's would implement an XP/credit bonus to U/U, think that might help. I also run Apex missions first off (have tons of mission funds!) I don't have much problem hosting and finding joiners (on PS4) but I may have to start solo (joiners come in mainly during 1st wave).
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Post by mega on May 12, 2017 10:03:38 GMT
Just slowpokes that haven't yet realised that Outlaws are actually harder now. Yeah no doubt, they are trying to cheese without realizing about the patch. But that is a good thing, at least it's not that much boring! Random/Random bonus, APEX missions that apply to silver/gold, bigger APEX mission rewards, weekly faction/map rotation bonuses, faction/map challenges that provide actual benefits instead of a fucking shitty dog tag sticker, lobby map/faction rotation system that ramps up bonuses the longer you stay and play, etc, etc, etc, etc. Thanks for your ideas, I see there are many possible fixes for that, which aren't even that complicated to implement, will have to try to bring some feedback to the devs. By....twitter I guess, since there aren't "many" ways to communicate with devs. Most the APEX Missions actually make the game EASIER instead of challenging. When I log in for a few hours of MEA I typically farm the Gold APEX Mission and have an easy match, with bonus Creds and XP. Sometimes this does result in an APEX Mission Farm which is Zero Outlaws. When that happens, I camp the LZ side of the map and make a conscious effort not to even set foot near the usual campsite. Until Wave 7, that is, when I immediately head over there, sometimes passing pugs who immediately head to the LZ. So we swap places. That amuses me. Even moreso when they wipe out. Yeah it can get kinda boring but this is the MEA version of Challenge Weekends now, so suck it up, N7 Princess. Will give APEX missions a try, I was always sending strike teams after playing a few apex gold missions where once down, dead forever xD At least I will get some different map / enemy combinations, I guess! I also try to play Zero Outlaw without camping that boring corridor, it’s some fun but I go too much kamikaze / can’t really clean ¾ of the map by myself on highest rounds xD. It’s better than just camping that same spot, but still boring after many games. Well, instead of sucking it up, I will try to provide feedback in hopes to have this changed by some mechanic, try focusing on APEX missions, keep trying to filter by custom search, and keep failing to host my non zero outlaw lobbies xD. Did you....really call me “N7 Princess?” XD I guess it’s a compliment, but since I am male, I would be the N7 Prince! I also wish the dev's would implement an XP/credit bonus to U/U, think that might help. I also run Apex missions first off (have tons of mission funds!) I don't have much problem hosting and finding joiners (on PS4) but I may have to start solo (joiners come in mainly during 1st wave). Yep, I think the easiest and more obvious fix for this is just an xp / credits bonus to random / random. Again, looks like it was not such a good idea to only send strike teams to Apex missions (except event ones) so will play them again. Finally, very interesting what you comment lastly, I have similar behaviour, and I think it's just a bug or something, cause I also get people to join once ingame but not in a new lobby. Only after a rematch where I hosted and they joined ingame, or after a rematch where the host leaves and then I become it. So Apex missions + solo hosting random random + trying to get the devs implement a bonus to random / random matches. Thanks for your contributions!
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Post by Kazu on May 12, 2017 10:05:18 GMT
Most the APEX Missions actually make the game EASIER instead of challenging. When I log in for a few hours of MEA I typically farm the Gold APEX Mission and have an easy match, with bonus Creds and XP. Sometimes this does result in an APEX Mission Farm which is Zero Outlaws. When that happens, I camp the LZ side of the map and make a conscious effort not to even set foot near the usual campsite. Until Wave 7, that is, when I immediately head over there, sometimes passing pugs who immediately head to the LZ. So we swap places. That amuses me. Even moreso when they wipe out. Yeah it can get kinda boring but this is the MEA version of Challenge Weekends now, so suck it up, N7 Princess. Pretty much this. OPs problem is that he wants to control other players so they act to his liking. That's not how it works. You already named all your options. If you dont like the options presented to you and dont want to change yourself, tough luck.
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Post by Kenny Bania on May 12, 2017 10:05:53 GMT
Hiding behind a counter definitely is for me. Fuck that.
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Post by mega on May 12, 2017 10:12:39 GMT
Most the APEX Missions actually make the game EASIER instead of challenging. When I log in for a few hours of MEA I typically farm the Gold APEX Mission and have an easy match, with bonus Creds and XP. Sometimes this does result in an APEX Mission Farm which is Zero Outlaws. When that happens, I camp the LZ side of the map and make a conscious effort not to even set foot near the usual campsite. Until Wave 7, that is, when I immediately head over there, sometimes passing pugs who immediately head to the LZ. So we swap places. That amuses me. Even moreso when they wipe out. Yeah it can get kinda boring but this is the MEA version of Challenge Weekends now, so suck it up, N7 Princess. Pretty much this. OPs problem is that he wants to control other players so they act to his liking. That's not how it works. You already named all your options. If you dont like the options presented to you and dont want to change yourself, tough luck. There always has to be a retard like you, trying to replace his psychologist visits with bad troll attempts like this. Oh you came too late to ruin the thread, people already been helpful with useful comments. Also my OP had an antiretard sentence like this "I don't care if others want to repeat same thing, enjoying just 1/10th of the multiplayers variety regarding maps and enemies, but I am forced to it!" which totally invalidates your statement, but since you are looking for attention and free therapy, it doesn't matter that much!
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Post by Kazu on May 12, 2017 10:20:03 GMT
Nah besides that you are clearly triggered, you lack the ability to deal with the fact that your opinion just isn't the popular thing and people are enjoying the game how they see fit. That's some you cant change.
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Post by Pyrceval78 on May 12, 2017 10:21:07 GMT
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Post by mega on May 12, 2017 10:22:10 GMT
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Post by Kazu on May 12, 2017 10:34:00 GMT
It is nice to see your level of "debating" when somebody disagrees with you.
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Post by N7Mith on May 12, 2017 10:36:54 GMT
I've been cycling maps and enemies for weeks now, especially if U/U gives the same maps over and over. When I get a message if I could change it to zero, I just reply 'git gud, scrub.'
Games in progress have matchmaking priority, and after that it's bigger lobbies. So waiting on your own takes very long. I sometimes open apex missions and then change it to custom. Pugs like that a lot ^,^
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Post by Bzilla024 on May 12, 2017 10:38:55 GMT
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Post by mega on May 12, 2017 10:41:52 GMT
It is nice to see your level of "debating" when somebody disagrees with you. When I say in my Original Post " I don't care if others want to repeat same thing, enjoying just 1/10th of the multiplayers variety regarding maps and enemies, but I am forced to it!" and you reply with a personal attack like "OPs problem is that he wants to control other players so they act to his liking. That's not how it works." I see the problem is not debating, but with you. Trolling, asking for attention, looking for a free therapy coupon, anything but debating, is what you looking for. Not feeding you anymore, you have been already exposed with your and my replies. I've been cycling maps and enemies for weeks now, especially if U/U gives the same maps over and over. When I get a message if I could change it to zero, I just reply 'git gud, scrub.' Games in progress have matchmaking priority, and after that it's bigger lobbies. So waiting on your own takes very long. I sometimes open apex missions and then change it to custom. Pugs like that a lot ^,^ Hehe, really so many scrubs feel threatened by this fix, it's amazing XD. Good to know what you say about matchmaking priority / having to wait on your own taking long. And the "opening apex missions to change it to custom" is the icing on the cake xD will have to try that method as well, looks like lotsa people need to l2p!
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Post by SalMasRac on May 12, 2017 10:42:46 GMT
Did you....really call me “N7 Princess?” XD I guess it’s a compliment, but since I am male, I would be the N7 Prince! On the old BSN there was a quiz to determine your N7 Princess Rating. Maybe it's archived on Fextralife, I'll look it up sometime
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Post by SofaJockey on May 12, 2017 10:56:48 GMT
Can we please focus on complaining about the game and pugs not being rude about each other. [x] Stay classy, BSN. EDIT: Incidentally, I like playing Pugs - actually I only play pugs. And yes they are sometimes a 'random factor' but that's part of the challenge in my view.
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Post by N7Mith on May 12, 2017 11:13:48 GMT
Can we please focus on complaining about the game and pugs not being rude about each other. [x] Stay classy, BSN. EDIT: Incidentally, I like playing Pugs - actually I only play pugs. And yes they are sometimes a 'random factor' but that's part of the challenge in my view. Wow you have a very low bar for rudeness. Edit nvm I thought you meant the princess remark
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Post by Kazu on May 12, 2017 11:46:56 GMT
It is nice to see your level of "debating" when somebody disagrees with you. When I say in my Original Post " I don't care if others want to repeat same thing, enjoying just 1/10th of the multiplayers variety regarding maps and enemies, but I am forced to it!" and you reply with a personal attack like "OPs problem is that he wants to control other players so they act to his liking. That's not how it works." I see the problem is not debating, but with you. Trolling, asking for attention, looking for a free therapy coupon, anything but debating, is what you looking for. Not feeding you anymore, you have been already exposed with your and my replies. I don't know what is going on with you. Probably something going really deep, but that's not for me to figure out. You can insult me all you want, throw shit at me or pull nonsense out of your ass, that doesnt change anything. You clearly stated you have a problem with pugs, but you also seem to have a massive problem with the alternatives to pugging. Please explain how you are forced to play only 1/10th of the multiplayer content and by whom.
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Post by Bzilla024 on May 12, 2017 11:50:54 GMT
Do you even Host bro?
That would solve a lot of your problems right there.
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Post by Ares on May 12, 2017 12:18:56 GMT
Hosting your own games alone solves nothing. Unless you like sitting in a empty lobby by yourself lol.
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Post by Pyrceval78 on May 12, 2017 12:36:10 GMT
Hosting your own games alone solves nothing. Unless you like sitting in a empty lobby by yourself lol.
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Post by Bzilla024 on May 12, 2017 12:38:02 GMT
Hosting your own games alone solves nothing. Unless you like sitting in a empty lobby by yourself lol. It does seem to take time for people to pop in but I notice if you go ahead and start, most of the time there is at least one other person in game by the time the map loads. edit: also a good time to alt + tab into a web browser and shitpost
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