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Post by danaxe on May 12, 2017 12:31:05 GMT
Ok, bare with me for a few minutes. And put on your tinfoil hat. I stole a keg of Ryncol from ZipZap, so I take no responsability to what this might generate.
First, fyi, i consider the game to be good (not amazing, it certainly has its flaws), I had a great time with it overall, and because what I liked outshined the stuff I didnt like, I give the game an 8/10 with a lot of room for improvement with upcoming DLCs.
Ok, so this is Mass Effect. What's the 2 things we know about it? Many people love it. Even more people hate it (because of the ME3 ending). So, going forward into a new game, they need to make it good, really good, i mean, so good that everybody will forget the hate and the franchise will redeem itself. But EA is kinda greedy, they dont want to spend the bucks to make sure this will be as close to a masterpiece as possible. And to redeem the hate generated from ME3, they would need a lot of money and heart put into it, and a very experienced team to do so. But instead they gave it to a B or even C team from Bioware and 40Million dollars. Hmm.... *Scratches head.
So, EA knows its going to be really hard to make a ME game that will please everybody, and they know its much easier and affordable to make a game that, while good enough to please diehard fans, is not good enough to wipe the slate clean. So, how about cashing in on the hate? How about generate hate for game? How about use the immense hate that is already there, and fan its flames? Make sure its animations and dialogue suck balls specially for those playing the previews and have the limited access before launch. Make sure the critics hate it, make sure the reviewers mimic the critics that dont like it, make sure every Bioware hater gets an excuse to bash the company and the franchise even more. Make sure EVERYBODY is talking about it! Loudly! Like screaming to the heavens how bad the game is.
I mean, there is no such thing as bad publicity right? As long as people are talking about it, people are buying it, even if just to see what all the rage is about. And suddenly, you have a game that eveybody hates, that performs as well as The Witcher 3, which everybody loves. *Scratches head harder.
“You insane?? MEA performs as well as Witcher 3? Give that Ryncol back to ZipZap!”
Ye, not really, think about it. Few days from release, Mac Walters was already talking about MEA players in the millions (as in plural, as in more than 1Million), then EA comes out to say their predictions for first month of sales is 3Million copies (and thats not a number they just threw out there, it was a prediction based off the pre-order and first days sales). Now they are saying they are happy with how the game performed. So, while speculation and no evidence besides word of mouth, it's safe to assume that after 2months from release MEA has sold 3Million copies. Witcher 3, sold something around 6Million copies (a bit more, but didnt reach 7), which is a killer number! Outstanding. (oh and btw i'm not counting DLCs ofc, MEA is not there yet, so lets compare only the base game) But Witcher 3 costed 80Million, which is double than MEA cost. So if MEA sells half the numbers of Witcher, it performed just as well.
Mindblow! A game that has generated so much hate, has performed as well as a game that generated so much love. *Scratches head till it starts bleeding
So what I'm saying, is that it might be possible that all the hate from ME3 has been harnessed by EA and turned into a marketing strategy to syphon and direct hate into sales. Making sure a game that by all accounts would be impossible to make as much revenue as the OT, into a freaking success. Even if the game lacks the quality for such success. Quite brilliant if you think about it. And Evil. Very Evil! Ea is sitting on a comfy armchair in the dark, stroking a kitten and cackling madly while it eats the hate and drinks the tears of the players.
I know i know, this is just nonsense spouting. But the more I think about it, the more sense it makes. Even this whole Kotaku fake news, take a good look at it. Kotaku used a non-news piece, talking about normal procedure for a company like Bioware and spins it as indication that ME is doomed and shelved because the game bombed. What happens overnight? Mass Effect Andromeda is trending all over again, almost 2 months after release, all gaming outlets talking about it, more publicity, more sales. Is it so far fetched to think that the marketing team for the game is behind all this?? Im half expecting a DLC announcement very soon, to make sure they make the most of the game being all over the internet news again.
Maybe this doesnt make sense if you're not drinking Ryncol at the moment, but heck, what do you think?
TLDR: Ryncol makes EA look even more evil than usual.
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Post by kumazan on May 12, 2017 12:33:55 GMT
I want some of your shit.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 12:35:22 GMT
Nah... it's an anti-EA, anti-Bioware, anti-Mac crowd that are orchestrating the hate. It's a hate campaign that's been going on since even before ME3 was released... and it's just been snowballing ever since.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 12, 2017 12:35:22 GMT
I suppose crazier things have happened. Come, let us ruminate on what was, and what could be.
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 12, 2017 12:38:11 GMT
Courting controversy, when it works, only works to a point. I have trouble believing that EA, a company whose bread is buttered by churning out the exact same sports games over and over again, would employ such a risky strategy. It's really better suited to small independents, like the twits who crapped out that awful Hatred turd.
If ME:A sold well, then a sequel probably will result. I'm not in a position to say if it did or not.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 12, 2017 12:38:13 GMT
I don't really buy the argument. But I did try out DA2 because of all the hate I read about it on the old BSN. Turned out liking it. Not loving it, but it was entertaining.
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Post by Ahriman on May 12, 2017 12:39:47 GMT
Apply your resume at appropriate place, please.
-With kindest regards, EA Marketing Department
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Post by abaris on May 12, 2017 13:10:45 GMT
That OP really takes the cake.
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Post by timebean on May 12, 2017 13:24:01 GMT
Meh, it's worked before... But no. Games make money on DLC, reboots, sequels, prequels, toys, gear, etc. You don't destroy a brand on purpose to get sales for single entry. Also, while the game is not the best from Bioware (imho), it is not its worst (is it?). To early here for Ryncol...
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Post by sageoflife on May 12, 2017 13:29:07 GMT
I'd like to know who your supplier is. For... medicinal purposes.
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Post by mmoblitz on May 12, 2017 13:50:45 GMT
I think Bioware gets the blame for this and not EA. I will say that a bit after Sims 4 was launched that Maxis tied throwing sims 3 under the bus to try and sell sims 4, but this is different. I don't think though that EA has anything to do with the way Andromeda turned out.
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Post by FeralEwok on May 12, 2017 13:52:44 GMT
Meh, it's worked before... But no. Games make money on DLC, reboots, sequels, prequels, toys, gear, etc. You don't destroy a brand on purpose to get sales for single entry. Also, while the game is not the best from Bioware (imho), it is not its worst (is it?). To early here for Ryncol... Haha what a story timebean. *throws you a football* (And for me, no this is far from the worst game BW put out)
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Post by timebean on May 12, 2017 14:02:03 GMT
Meh, it's worked before... But no. Games make money on DLC, reboots, sequels, prequels, toys, gear, etc. You don't destroy a brand on purpose to get sales for single entry. Also, while the game is not the best from Bioware (imho), it is not its worst (is it?). To early here for Ryncol... Haha what a story timebean. *throws you a football* (And for me, no this is far from the worst game BW put out) m.popkey.co/ac863d/0xj5W.gif
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Post by alanc9 on May 12, 2017 15:46:09 GMT
The theory has an underpants gnomes problem. I don't see step 2 anywhere
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 15:50:07 GMT
Nah... it's an anti-EA, anti-Bioware, anti-Mac crowd that are orchestrating the hate. It's a hate campaign that's been going on since even before ME3 was released... and it's just been snowballing ever since. I think it grew after ME3. Lots of people hated the endings. Biggest issues many had were with not having shepard and having to leave the milky way. People are still sore about this five years later. They have joined the club.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 15:56:17 GMT
I'm not sure EA is stupid enough to ruin their own IP to make a quick buck.
That being said, I'm not sure they aren't either...
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Post by kino on May 12, 2017 15:58:13 GMT
I kind of hope Casey Hudson steps out of the shadows at this point and says, "I'm Kaizer Soze", just so I could watch the Internet explode.
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Post by Fredward on May 12, 2017 16:00:18 GMT
Or maybe, maybe Bioware made a mediocre game.
But nah it was definitely Beyonce and the Illuminati.
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Post by darkway1 on May 12, 2017 16:03:04 GMT
So let me get this right....the hate amounts to publicity......which boosts sales.....which boosts DLC sales......and EA is some how behind the hate.
It would explain EA's recent run of shit games.
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Post by danaxe on May 12, 2017 16:51:16 GMT
It's the red pill effect. Cognitive dissonance. I just told you all the hate you are feeling has been fabricated to help those who you turn your hate to. So now you know it but you still dont want to believe it. Cause if you do believe it, you are admiting to yourself you have been duped with hate all along!!!
Hateception!
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 16:57:39 GMT
Orchestrating it? No. Taking advantage of it? I could see that. That article is scaring people who are now confessing their love for the game. Good way to know what's what.
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Post by Mihura on May 12, 2017 17:05:15 GMT
Nah that is too complicated to the bros at the PR.
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Post by decafhigh on May 12, 2017 17:06:24 GMT
Orchestrating it? No. Taking advantage of it? I could see that. That article is scaring people who are now confessing their love for the game. Good way to know what's what. Nah EA doesn't care about whether gamers hate or love them, so long as they are shelling out money. EA is the most bottom line game company out there, they are concerned with one thing only 'how much money did the game make?'. So long as the answer to that is a net positive they'll keep making the game whether people love it, praise it, hate it, meme it, lavish it with praise and awards or give them the title of Worst Company in America, doesn't matter. Once that answer becomes a net negative EA will shutter the studio whether people love it, praise it, hate it, doesn't matter. $$$ that is what EA cares about.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 17:07:05 GMT
Orchestrating it? No. Taking advantage of it? I could see that. That article is scaring people who are now confessing their love for the game. Good way to know what's what. Nah EA doesn't care about whether gamers hate or love them, so long as they are shelling out money. EA is the most bottom line game company out there, they are concerned with one thing only 'how much money did the game make?'. So long as the answer to that is a net positive they'll keep making the game whether people love it, praise it, hate it, meme it, lavish it with praise and awards or give them the title of Worst Company in America, doesn't matter. Once that answer becomes a net negative EA will shutter the studio whether people love it, praise it, hate it, doesn't matter. $$$ that is what EA cares about. I remember the outrage back when they took over for the Sims.
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