inherit
2240
0
1,438
derrame
1,397
December 2016
derrame
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem
DerrameNeutral
|
Post by derrame on May 14, 2017 17:14:30 GMT
Hi there pathfinders,
i completed the game , cllected all of Alec Ryder's memories, but i read some posts and watched some videos and now im confused, why was the Andromeda Initiative originally created? i know it was for travelling and settling in Andromeda and, the Reapers cam to milky way so they must leave earlier to escape the Reapers, but, is there other "secret" reason? a conspiracy that Alec does not know?
|
|
inherit
950
0
128
anddill
90
August 2016
anddill
|
Post by anddill on May 14, 2017 17:47:12 GMT
The only ones who new exactly the old machines would come and destroy everything and everyone at the time the idea of the AI was created where the Geth. They also made the FTL-teleskope and somehow gave the data to the AI. Thats why I´m convinced the Benefactor are Geth. And there are Geth on the Quarian Ark.
|
|
inherit
2240
0
1,438
derrame
1,397
December 2016
derrame
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem
DerrameNeutral
|
Post by derrame on May 14, 2017 19:08:50 GMT
The only ones who new exactly the old machines would come and destroy everything and everyone at the time the idea of the AI was created where the Geth. They also made the FTL-teleskope and somehow gave the data to the AI. Thats why I´m convinced the Benefactor are Geth. And there are Geth on the Quarian Ark. yes, but int he last memory , some asari and some turian tell Alec that Sheaprd was right and that they must leave the milky way as soon as possible earlier than expected. so more people knew and the Initiative was already plannd and functioning even before Alec knew it, the asari and/or the turian offered Alec a place in the Initiative, it is knownt that the initiative as founded by Garson, but she was no the only one, some other were involved, why?
|
|
MarilynRobert
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 986 Likes: 2,148
inherit
33
0
Aug 27, 2016 23:38:20 GMT
2,148
MarilynRobert
986
August 2016
robmar
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by MarilynRobert on May 14, 2017 19:16:30 GMT
The only ones who new exactly the old machines would come and destroy everything and everyone at the time the idea of the AI was created where the Geth. They also made the FTL-teleskope and somehow gave the data to the AI. Thats why I´m convinced the Benefactor are Geth. And there are Geth on the Quarian Ark. yes, but int he last memory , some asari and some turian tell Alec that Sheaprd was right and that they must leave the milky way as soon as possible earlier than expected. so more people knew and the Initiative was already plannd and functioning even before Alec knew it, the asari and/or the turian offered Alec a place in the Initiative, it is knownt that the initiative as founded by Garson, but she was no the only one, some other were involved, why? When you see those faces and hear those voices change, when Alex is speaking to the benefactor, that is one person who is using various faces and voices to disguise his/her face and voice. Garson was a front for the benefactor and even she didn't know who the benefactor was.
|
|
LilTIM
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 155 Likes: 247
inherit
4471
0
Mar 14, 2017 19:09:14 GMT
247
LilTIM
155
March 2017
liltim
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by LilTIM on May 14, 2017 20:25:35 GMT
Originally it was what this bored rich woman dreamt about, because she wasn't happy with her life. Later it got the backing of more people around the galaxy and started to grow, eventually getting the attention of this mysterious benefactor, whose backing made these half-done plans a reality in a short time. Enough for it to be ready just before the Reapers arrived.
|
|
inherit
1129
0
Nov 27, 2024 14:46:42 GMT
2,052
traks
1,012
Aug 22, 2016 11:07:02 GMT
August 2016
traks
Mass Effect Trilogy, Mass Effect Andromeda
t_raks_99
|
Post by traks on May 14, 2017 20:44:15 GMT
|
|
inherit
2240
0
1,438
derrame
1,397
December 2016
derrame
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem
DerrameNeutral
|
Post by derrame on May 14, 2017 21:52:17 GMT
ok, so it's still a secret or we just don't know yet maybe in a dlc or new game
|
|
Obadiah
N5
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem
Origin: Obadaya
XBL Gamertag: ObadiahPearce
Posts: 2,677 Likes: 3,624
inherit
658
0
Nov 25, 2024 13:02:34 GMT
3,624
Obadiah
2,677
August 2016
obadiah
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem
Obadaya
ObadiahPearce
|
Post by Obadiah on May 14, 2017 23:06:42 GMT
The only ones who new exactly the old machines would come and destroy everything and everyone at the time the idea of the AI was created where the Geth. They also made the FTL-teleskope and somehow gave the data to the AI. Thats why I´m convinced the Benefactor are Geth. And there are Geth on the Quarian Ark. Not bad.
|
|
Obadiah
N5
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem
Origin: Obadaya
XBL Gamertag: ObadiahPearce
Posts: 2,677 Likes: 3,624
inherit
658
0
Nov 25, 2024 13:02:34 GMT
3,624
Obadiah
2,677
August 2016
obadiah
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem
Obadaya
ObadiahPearce
|
Post by Obadiah on May 14, 2017 23:14:20 GMT
OP, as you have said, it was originally a private enterprise to explore and settle Andromeda.
The benefactor was apparently aware of the Reaper threat, so they had a different motivation. I think the Benefactor will just turn out to be The Illusive Man (without Martin Sheen's voice-over expense) and Cora will somehow be involved (because of her last name).
|
|
inherit
7464
0
99
kenshen19
161
Apr 10, 2017 18:07:26 GMT
April 2017
kenshen19
|
Post by kenshen19 on May 15, 2017 18:29:22 GMT
The only ones who new exactly the old machines would come and destroy everything and everyone at the time the idea of the AI was created where the Geth. They also made the FTL-teleskope and somehow gave the data to the AI. Thats why I´m convinced the Benefactor are Geth. And there are Geth on the Quarian Ark. I agree with your theory but this would be such a fundamental change in thinking for the Geth. Seeing how we know that the entire Geth race didn't just suddenly disappear that would mean only some programs made it out of the MK which according to Legion would only weaken them and it isn't something they would do. And to travel on the Quarian ark just seems to crazy seeing how most Quarian's either fear and/or hate the Geth although maybe that is the reason that ark has stopped or whatever it is doing. Still I would welcome a Geth team mate as long as it wasn't Legion 2.0
|
|
caterpillar
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
Origin: yangthecat
Posts: 91 Likes: 238
inherit
8031
0
Sept 21, 2017 23:27:23 GMT
238
caterpillar
91
Apr 26, 2017 18:01:56 GMT
April 2017
caterpillar
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
yangthecat
|
Post by caterpillar on May 15, 2017 19:58:35 GMT
The only ones who new exactly the old machines would come and destroy everything and everyone at the time the idea of the AI was created where the Geth. They also made the FTL-teleskope and somehow gave the data to the AI. Thats why I´m convinced the Benefactor are Geth. And there are Geth on the Quarian Ark. I agree with your theory but this would be such a fundamental change in thinking for the Geth. Seeing how we know that the entire Geth race didn't just suddenly disappear that would mean only some programs made it out of the MK which according to Legion would only weaken them and it isn't something they would do. And to travel on the Quarian ark just seems to crazy seeing how most Quarian's either fear and/or hate the Geth although maybe that is the reason that ark has stopped or whatever it is doing. Still I would welcome a Geth team mate as long as it wasn't Legion 2.0 In ME2, we learned there were two factions of Geth, the ones who followed the Reapers (Heretics) and the ones who didn't. So there is always a chance there's another splinter group of Geth who decided that going to Andromeda was better solution than either fighting the Reapers or joining them.
|
|
inherit
950
0
128
anddill
90
August 2016
anddill
|
Post by anddill on May 15, 2017 21:08:52 GMT
They can travel dormant hidden in the memory banks of the arks. And something on the Quarian Ark woke them up, and the Quarians panicked. And there is no reason for some distinctive 3th kind of Geth. It could just be a contingency plan from the non-Heretics. I said already before the first official infos, while the speculations where running wild how the arks were build and funded that only the Geth would have the resources and "man"Power to build such a gigantic project in this short time, and stay hidden with it. Ok, Bioware decided otherwise, just some crazy people made all the arks in their backyard. But they got massive help from an unknown faction...
|
|
inherit
7464
0
99
kenshen19
161
Apr 10, 2017 18:07:26 GMT
April 2017
kenshen19
|
Post by kenshen19 on May 15, 2017 22:08:02 GMT
I agree with your theory but this would be such a fundamental change in thinking for the Geth. Seeing how we know that the entire Geth race didn't just suddenly disappear that would mean only some programs made it out of the MK which according to Legion would only weaken them and it isn't something they would do. And to travel on the Quarian ark just seems to crazy seeing how most Quarian's either fear and/or hate the Geth although maybe that is the reason that ark has stopped or whatever it is doing. Still I would welcome a Geth team mate as long as it wasn't Legion 2.0 In ME2, we learned there were two factions of Geth, the ones who followed the Reapers (Heretics) and the ones who didn't. So there is always a chance there's another splinter group of Geth who decided that going to Andromeda was better solution than either fighting the Reapers or joining them. Yeah that would probably be the explanation for it but what would the Quarian's excuse be for bringing them along? Also on a completely different tangent but why would the Geth want Garson dead? I can not think of a single reason for that so if the Geth are the benefactor who would be after her? So many questions I hope the Quarian ark is the first DLC.
|
|
caterpillar
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
Origin: yangthecat
Posts: 91 Likes: 238
inherit
8031
0
Sept 21, 2017 23:27:23 GMT
238
caterpillar
91
Apr 26, 2017 18:01:56 GMT
April 2017
caterpillar
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
yangthecat
|
Post by caterpillar on May 15, 2017 22:30:43 GMT
In ME2, we learned there were two factions of Geth, the ones who followed the Reapers (Heretics) and the ones who didn't. So there is always a chance there's another splinter group of Geth who decided that going to Andromeda was better solution than either fighting the Reapers or joining them. Yeah that would probably be the explanation for it but what would the Quarian's excuse be for bringing them along? Also on a completely different tangent but why would the Geth want Garson dead? I can not think of a single reason for that so if the Geth are the benefactor who would be after her? So many questions I hope the Quarian ark is the first DLC. Since the Geth are software that do not require physical bodies to exist, they could find a way to install themselves into the Quarian ship's systems without the Quarians knowing about it. And they could have brought the designs for their physical platforms to be manufactured for them to download into when needed. As for the rest, I don't know. I'm not really trying to make a case for the Geth being the Benefactor, that's the OP's idea. It is an interesting idea, but I tend to think the Geth are probably not the Benefactor. I am kind of thinking the Geth are involved with whatever emergency is happening with the Quarian ark, though.
|
|
gplayer
N3
I love nailing asari. So ageless and superior -- then you get them and they squeal like school girls
Posts: 259 Likes: 318
inherit
7645
0
Apr 20, 2021 15:40:19 GMT
318
gplayer
I love nailing asari. So ageless and superior -- then you get them and they squeal like school girls
259
Apr 14, 2017 23:27:51 GMT
April 2017
gplayer
|
Post by gplayer on May 16, 2017 6:15:06 GMT
I like the theory that the benefactor is the geth. For me TIM is over and done with in the OT and anything but a passing reference to him in any Andromeda installment will be reason enough for me to avoid it. Him funding an initiative that saved so many other species when he was in fact indoctrinated and so convinced he could control the reapers would require so many retcons and mental gymnastics that I really would not be interested in anything they had to create anymore.
|
|
inherit
950
0
128
anddill
90
August 2016
anddill
|
Post by anddill on May 16, 2017 14:56:00 GMT
And it would fit the theme of benevolent artificial intelligence in this game.
|
|
Fogg
N3
Karma whoring over on Reddit, actual opinions on BSN
Posts: 876 Likes: 1,793
inherit
297
0
1,793
Fogg
Karma whoring over on Reddit, actual opinions on BSN
876
August 2016
foggfrombsn
|
Post by Fogg on May 17, 2017 13:50:37 GMT
Since there's no logical reason to go to Andromeda, the original idea was a romantic one. Crossing another milestone. Travelling to another galaxy. That was the original idea by Jien Garson.
When she ran out of funds, a Benefactor stepped in. He used her project as a front to ensure survival for when the Reapers would succeed.
|
|
inherit
3840
0
Sept 27, 2018 21:00:22 GMT
297
zeypher
304
Feb 24, 2017 19:59:42 GMT
February 2017
zeypher
|
Post by zeypher on May 20, 2017 15:58:27 GMT
Geth make the most sense as they not only have the technology but the resources, knowledge and AI tech needed to build SAM. Especially the part of a symbiosis, thats what the geth do with the quarians if peace is made between them. The cooperative based AI is something extremely familiar to the geth. Finally we know geth have factions, the ones that joined Saren, the ones who wanted to make their own path so it will not be a surprise if another faction wanted to cooperate with the organics and move forward together.
The initiative is the third faction of Geth, the old machine worshipping guys got dealt with, while the ones who wanted to be left alone got wrecked when their Dyson sphere went kaboom via the quarians. Besides the previous games clearly show a theme that sure AI and organics might be different but they can work together for everyone's benefit.
Thats why if we get a quarian ark dlc, i will not be surprised if cooperative geth are part of the said ark and what the quarian warning was related too.
|
|
inherit
4406
0
694
duskwanderer
Awesome
1,052
Mar 12, 2017 22:45:38 GMT
March 2017
duskwanderer
|
Post by duskwanderer on May 21, 2017 2:16:51 GMT
I can't see it being the true geth. They'd have nothing to gain sending so many organics across dark space.
I think the main flaw in the reasoning behind the benefactor is assuming there is only one. Perhaps Alec only spoke to one, but I could see a shadowy cabal of people, spooked by the Reapers.
Maybe they don't get along, and are trying to use this to set up a galaxy where they are in control.
|
|
wafflefrog
N1
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 4 Likes: 1
inherit
8491
0
1
wafflefrog
4
May 2017
wafflefrog
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by wafflefrog on May 21, 2017 4:08:43 GMT
What if it was the Council? They knew the Reapers were coming but knew no one would believe them or everyone would freak the fuck out so they sneaky funneled funds into the Andromeda Initiative in case they couldn't defeat the reapers so the council races would be able to make it to safety That's why each race that was on the council had its own Ark while the others were just shoved into the Quarian ark (which, iirc, the quarians had to make themselves)and no other races were put in Cryo on the Nexus, even though the eternal space gypsies that are the Quarians would have been great at keeping systems running in case of the shit that happened in game.
|
|
inherit
209
0
3,640
zipzap2000
Zip has left the building.
2,263
August 2016
zipzap2000
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by zipzap2000 on May 21, 2017 8:38:10 GMT
The Andromeda initiative exists to initiate the journey to Andromeda. Once initiated this journey will take you all the way to another galaxy that we call Andromeda. Initially when you wake up in Andromeda your companions will take the initiative while you as a new initiate attempt to gain your bearings. Along your journey through Andromeda you will initiate contact with Andromedans. Supposedly furthering the Andromeda initiative as it journeys through Andromeda initiating contact.
Hence the name Andromeda Initiative.
|
|
inherit
5160
0
493
dreman999
979
March 2017
dreman999
|
Post by dreman999 on May 24, 2017 23:59:21 GMT
Hi there pathfinders, i completed the game , cllected all of Alec Ryder's memories, but i read some posts and watched some videos and now im confused, why was the Andromeda Initiative originally created? i know it was for travelling and settling in Andromeda and, the Reapers cam to milky way so they must leave earlier to escape the Reapers, but, is there other "secret" reason? a conspiracy that Alec does not know? this is a rich womans pet project that was taken over and turned into the largest refugee department in history with out anyone on it knowing they were refugees but the planners.
|
|
polismassa
N1
Posts: 2
inherit
8345
0
0
polismassa
2
May 2017
polismassa
|
Post by polismassa on May 25, 2017 19:56:51 GMT
Got this from sniperonxtc, I think it's spot on! finally the MEA elevator pitch!
The true reason Andromeda Initiative exists: RESCUE ELLEN RYDER.
SAM has reached singularity and has the power to evolve/improve himself and his only reason to exist is to save Ryder Mom. For this task he needs 1 thing...TIME to understand and heal her illness, He can't stay in the Milky Way Undetected for the time he needs. A 600 year space trip to another galaxy fits him perfect! Ellen stays in cryo and he can start to grow his intelligence so he finally can solve his task (rescue Ellen Ryder) To get the money and resources for the trip is easy for a mega intelligent existence like SAM And this also solves the question from where did they get the super advanced FTL telescope pictures and other info on the "Golden Worlds" Super Sam fixed it.
|
|
inherit
A blade answers only to the hand that wields it
3406
0
Nov 27, 2024 23:27:09 GMT
45,708
dazk
16,209
February 2017
dazk
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
DazK1805
|
Post by dazk on May 26, 2017 0:07:10 GMT
The only ones who new exactly the old machines would come and destroy everything and everyone at the time the idea of the AI was created where the Geth. They also made the FTL-teleskope and somehow gave the data to the AI. Thats why I´m convinced the Benefactor are Geth. And there are Geth on the Quarian Ark. My thoughts too. Not sure about Geth on the Quarian Ark but maybe when the Quarian Ark arrived there were already Geth where they arrived.
|
|