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Post by theycallmemann on May 18, 2017 22:23:49 GMT
Hello, I'm new here and want to just touch base
As of today, Bioware released a "hotfix" and I'm starting this thread to let everyone know that the Expert Packs have been nerfed. If you didn't know, there was a safeguard in place that you would get an Ultra Rare upgrade every 10 expert or premium packs that you pulled. Recently(just recorded footage on twitch as proof), I opened 23 Expert packs and no Ultra Rare upgrade and before I streamed I opened 15 packs and still no ultra rare upgrade so in 30 packs I've yet to receive an UR upgrade so if you have a maxed manifest(like myself), excluding URs, and you want ultra rare upgrades the pack to open is probably the Premium pack now. The reason I say probably is I have yet to test premium packs to see if they still have the mechanism that gave you an UR upgrage every 10 packs. Once I build my credits back up and test, I will report my results
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Post by xaijin on May 18, 2017 22:24:38 GMT
Are you a purple pokemon by chance
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Post by TormDK on May 18, 2017 22:27:12 GMT
Hello, I'm new here and want to just touch base As of today, Bioware released a "hotfix" and I'm starting this thread to let everyone know that the Expert Packs have been nerfed. If you didn't know, there was a safeguard in place that you would get an Ultra Rare upgrade every 10 expert or premium packs that you pulled. Recently(just recorded footage on twitch as proof), I opened 23 Expert packs and no Ultra Rare upgrade and before I streamed I opened 15 packs and still no ultra rare upgrade so in 30 packs I've yet to receive an UR upgrade so if you have a maxed manifest(like myself), excluding URs, and you want ultra rare upgrades the pack to open is probably the Premium pack now. The reason I say probably is I have yet to test premium packs to see if they still have the mechanism that gave you an UR upgrage every 10 packs. Once I build my credits back up and test, I will report my results Cheers Please do, I purchased 12000 andromeda points and recorded 40 premium crate openings. Pity timer is still there, total URs for those 40 packs were about 10 (I didn't keep count as I was just busy clicking next). Will be uploaded and shown on penguinfetish's channel at some point when he gets done with the audio.
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Post by TormDK on May 18, 2017 23:11:30 GMT
Please do, I purchased 12000 andromeda points and recorded 40 premium crate openings. Pity timer is still there, total URs for those 40 packs were about 10 (I didn't keep count as I was just busy clicking next). Will be uploaded and shown on penguinfetish 's channel at some point when he gets done with the audio. So, you purchased 40 "Expert" packs, right? Because Op was talking about "Expert" Packs, not "Premium." Please disregard if I misunderstood. No, someone else already purchased Expert packs and found that there is no longer a pity timer there that they could see. So no sense in throwing away the points in that regard, so I did one to see if a pity timer exists at all for Premium packs, and it does based on my limited 40 boxes opened sample. Every 10th Premium pack would give an UR, even though I had gotten one in the last nine.
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Post by codephat on May 18, 2017 23:21:41 GMT
A bit late to the party.
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Post by piniana on May 18, 2017 23:58:04 GMT
Since my Manifest is high enough that i dont care about maxing it, i will think about spending 15 millions on 300 expert packs tommorow to see how they changed.
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Post by crashsuit on May 19, 2017 0:08:17 GMT
Since my Manifest is high enough that i dont care about maxing it, i will think about spending 15 millions on 300 expert packs tommorow to see how they changed. Someone on reddit ran projections of what the pre-1.07 Expert UR drop rate was, taking into account all the reported pack sequences, but factoring out the pity timer, and came up with something like 2-3%. If the post-1.07 Expert UR drop rate is unchanged other than the removal of the pity timer, you can expect around 6 UR drops from your 300 packs. Be interesting to see what you actually get. www.reddit.com/r/MECoOp/comments/6bx75e/just_opened_20_expert_packs_not_a_single_ur/dhqkjl3/
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Post by piniana on May 19, 2017 0:11:25 GMT
Im laughing because im around 40 UR away from Max, and i was like "i would love expert packs to give rare consumables but not so many UR cuz i`ll leave game after maxing it", and then this happens lol.
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Post by zeph on May 19, 2017 1:10:24 GMT
you know, just the other night as i working on my pistol mastery and asking myself, "what am I achieving in the long run?" and now this pity nerf...practically puts the nail in the coffin ![:flip:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/NCnygJIJPkRrOrFxbvWV.gif)
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on May 19, 2017 1:12:07 GMT
BioWare was doing so well too. Now they pull this off. ![<_<](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/uJDSFxTaceXHJgvOKqTG.png) Are premium packs effected?
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Post by TormDK on May 19, 2017 6:16:04 GMT
BioWare was doing so well too. Now they pull this off. ![<_<](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/uJDSFxTaceXHJgvOKqTG.png) Are premium packs effected? Yes, but Billy noted on Reddit that drop rates there was not effected. My small 40 boxes sample size showed the following; 1; Garanteed drop every 10th Premium pack. Regardless of the previous nine having dropped an UR or not. 2; 10 URs total out of the 40 Premium boxes I had. This would put price per UR to 400.000 credits in my case, however the sample size is too small to say anything regarding drop rates at this point. Basically we need another Drasca'ian sample size (25'ish million credits worth of Premium boxes) to begin to look at drop rate comparisons. It is clear though from the reports coming in, that Expert packs are no longer the viable option here, so it becomes a choice between getting boosters over time (Expert packs, and what appears to be a 5% drop chance on URs), or getting URs faster. (Early reports seems to suggest the 22-25% chance we've heard theorized before. On Reddit, Billy notes that Premium pack's drop rates have not been tampered with by their hotfix, only a fix to Expert pack drop rates. (which was apparently too generous)
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