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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 16:25:49 GMT
...Commander Shepard.
Think about it. Shepard knew about the reapers, and there's the gap between the end of ME1 and the start of ME2, where all the credits and stuff you mined just disappeared. Where did it go? It funded the Initiative. How did Shepard know about the initiative? They went to the moon in ME1, where we saw the arks being built in the trailer. But why would Shepard fund the AI instead of fighting the reapers? Because they knew they couldn't win. So Shepard planned to go to Andromeda, so that the Milky Way species would eventually return, to defeat the reapers while they hibernated in darkspace.
Of course, Shepard died and missed the departure date. Or did they?
Shepard faked their own death, and actually escaped from the SR-1 with Joker before going into hiding, preparing for the arks' departure. Meanwhile, a fake Shepard corpse was left for Cerberus to find and execute project "Lazarus" on. The Shepard we used in ME2-3 was the fake Shepard, used to distract from the real Shepard's actions as the benefactor and to keep Cerberus from infiltrating the AI. However, fake Shepard found out the truth, and planned to reveal it to the council, so was disposed of by Shepard's allies who remained in the Milky Way and replaced by a second Shepard clone.
The crucible was just a plot to keep new fake Shepard busy and distract the inhabitants of the Milky Way from their impending doom, and the catalyst was a figment of fake Shepard's imagination to ensure fake Shepard would commit suicide before they had the chance to discover the truth. The clone Shepard you fight in the citadel dlc is in fact the first fake Shepard, who survived the attempt on their life and planned to reassume their original identity to reveal the deception.
Meanwhile, the real Shepard travelled to Andromeda, killing Jien Garson when she threatened to expose the truth and reveal that everyone in the Milky Way was dead. Shepard is now overseeing the Initiative, acting through Director Tann, to prepare for the return to the Milky Way where Shepard's allies from ME1 are waiting, have entered cryostasis just after fake Shepard died.
What was not anticipated, though, was that the quarian ark would be delayed long enough to discover the truth before it left for Andromeda. Hence, knowing that Commander Shepard would attempt to arrange an "accident" to destroy them, the ark sent out a message to the Initiative warning them to keep away to buy them time. An upcoming DLC where the Tempest goes to rescue the quarians will see Ryder fight against, and defeat, the real Shepard (the reason the game asks you to input Shepard's gender), before choosing whether to reveal the truth to the entire Initiative or continue with Shepard's plan to destroy the reapers.
ME3 endings circumvented, Shepard returns, all is well with Mass Effect once more. Bioware can thank me later.
tl;dr ME2-3 aren't real and Shepard fights Ryder on the quarian ark.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 16:29:04 GMT
I....I don't even know what to say. That's the stoopidest idea but it's also kinda wonderful.
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Post by Iakus on May 20, 2017 16:47:45 GMT
So THAT's Where all of Shepard's ME1 money went!
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Post by Rivercurse on May 20, 2017 17:04:25 GMT
Case closed.
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Post by kino on May 20, 2017 17:09:29 GMT
Actually, it's Shepard's other clone from Cerberus, Beauregard Shepardharder. *dun dun DUNNN*
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Post by dmc1001 on May 20, 2017 17:29:51 GMT
Seems unlikely. Shepard did not at any time have the kind of money to become the MB. Shepard definitely wouldn't sacrifice the entire MW just to head off to Andromeda. Also, even if you're right up to this point, it makes no sense to kill Jien Garson. This would have to be a very Renegade Shepard and I just don't see BioWare making such a choice for us.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 20, 2017 17:30:05 GMT
So THAT's Where all of Shepard's ME1 money went! right...
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 20, 2017 17:30:55 GMT
Actually, it's Shepard's other clone from Cerberus, Beauregard Shepardharder. *dun dun DUNNN* way more feasible...
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Post by KaiserShep on May 20, 2017 17:33:37 GMT
So THAT's Where all of Shepard's ME1 money went! So much story missing there.
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Post by decafhigh on May 20, 2017 17:41:27 GMT
Likely better than whatever the real story ends up being.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 18:30:45 GMT
Likely better than whatever the real story ends up being. *sigh* you're probably right there.
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on May 20, 2017 21:02:31 GMT
So THAT's Where all of Shepard's ME1 money went! So much story missing there. Shepard smoking a blunt lol
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Post by setokaiba on May 20, 2017 21:16:34 GMT
Likely better than whatever the real story ends up being. THat's sad but most likely true
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Post by Sanunes on May 20, 2017 21:18:42 GMT
I think I would prefer if it was Admiral Hackett and it was the Alliance that was the "benefactor".
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Post by abaris on May 20, 2017 21:35:51 GMT
That's the stoopidest idea but it's also kinda wonderful. I leave it at the first part of your statement.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 22:01:23 GMT
But if it is Tim, he can show up. Remember, he cloned Shepard. Do we think for one split second that he would not have cloned himself and headed off to andromeda if it looked like things could get hairy? I wouldn't be surprised if they actually did do this because they gave us a clone in citadel and MEA sort of models itself after Citadel. At this point, I truly expect it. The minute I heard benefactor in the memory replays after realizing that Cora has his last name I thought "no they didn't." But I think they might have.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on May 20, 2017 22:05:36 GMT
So that's why we could set Shep's gender during character creation... You know because as it stands it serves no purpose
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Post by abaris on May 20, 2017 22:06:30 GMT
Yes, sure, Shpeard or clone just printed a few trillions of credits on the Normandy to get the Initiative afloat. Very plausible. On the same lines as Bugs Bunny taking a shit on my front lawn the other day. Come to think of it, the Bugs Bunny story makes more sense.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 20, 2017 22:11:38 GMT
Barla Von and Elkoss get my vote.
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Post by Cyberstrike on May 20, 2017 22:14:57 GMT
I don't know why exactly but I think it could be the geth.
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Post by cheeseandonion on May 20, 2017 22:21:08 GMT
But if it is Tim, he can show up. pls no
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Post by KaiserShep on May 20, 2017 22:47:02 GMT
But if it is Tim, he can show up. Remember, he cloned Shepard. Do we think for one split second that he would not have cloned himself and headed off to andromeda if it looked like things could get hairy? I wouldn't be surprised if they actually did do this because they gave us a clone in citadel and MEA sort of models itself after Citadel. At this point, I truly expect it. The minute I heard benefactor in the memory replays after realizing that Cora has his last name I thought "no they didn't." But I think they might have. Cora is TIM... TIM is Cora...... Oh my God.....
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Post by RamShep on May 21, 2017 1:22:53 GMT
I didn't read all 13 pages of the attached thread but based on all of the discussions and my own opinion, the Mysterious Benefactor :
1. Helped fund the Initiative and Alec Ryder on his AI project. 2. Is originally from the Milky Way galaxy. 3. Either killed Jien Garson or ordered her assassination. 4. Is already in Andromeda, probably arrived in the Nexus. Otherwise, couldn't have killed Garson or ordered her assassination (Nexus had no communication with any of the arks).
Assuming that I'm correct about the above, the MB must be human, Salarian, Krogan, Asari or Turian. Of course the MB could be someone totally unknown in MET or books, or whatever, but if that's the case, there's no point in speculating who it might be. So in my opinion, the most likely suspect is the Illusive Man.
We know that TIM had the funds and was certainly interested in AI development, especially to advance mankind. So his interest and funding for Alec's project makes sense. There's no doubt that he would have known about the Initiative and I think he might have wanted his "Humans First" agenda to go to Andromeda.
Does this mean that TIM is in Andromeda? We know that TIM died in ME3 at the Citadel. So the only way TIM could be in Andromeda is if it is TIM's clone, or the one that died in ME3 is a clone. Or, most likely is that TIM (MB) has a trusted lieutenant in Andromeda who is acting on his behalf, similar to General Petrovsky or Henry Lawson.
What could be the MB's agenda? If MB was TIM, then the agenda is the same as Cerberous - Human's First. Perhaps they want the new AI developed by Alec to elevate humanity to a superior race, ahead of the other races.
What about Cora? There's no way she could be the MB, because she was in the Hyperion and had no contact with the Nexus, when Jien Garson was killed. However, I'm not sure that it's mere coincidence that her last name is Harper. It's possible that she is TIM's daughter but doesn't know about it yet. If TIM is not in Andromeda, perhaps his trusted lieutenant is preparing Andromeda for Cora to eventually assume leadership.
This would be a great story arc for MEA2, so I doubt this will be the case.
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