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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 10:56:07 GMT
Gil and Suvi got pretty fucked over in the development and character personality department, definitely. An ironic step down from Cortez and Traynor, that's for sure. The same can be said about Vetra and to an extent Liam as well, both character development and romance content they rather lack when compared to the rest of the squad. When it comes to romances in particular you could really see both characters were graded as second-tier, with most effort being put into Cora, Jaal and Peebs. Loyalty is another area where mbalance in content visable: Drack's got the Krogan colony, his scouts and Spender's plotline, Cora's got the Asari ark and the preestablished relationship with Alec, Peebee has a long questline about the Remnant and kalinda leading up to heir loyalty and Jaal is the Angaran envoy, and a crittical assets in various mission. Meanwhile Vetra's talents as a smuggler isn't really expended upon and her loyalty mission is the most isolated of all with no buildup, other than the involement of her sisters. Liam's has a couple of antics but makes no substantial contribution early on with his loyalty being just dependent on the amount of outposts established.
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Post by correctamundo on May 22, 2017 11:02:45 GMT
Gil and Suvi got pretty fucked over in the development and character personality department, definitely. An ironic step down from Cortez and Traynor, that's for sure. The same can be said about Vetra and to an extent Liam as well, both character development and romance content they rather lack when compared to the rest of the squad. When it comes to romances in particular you could really see both characters were graded as second-tier, with most effort being put into Cora, Jaal and Peebs. I felt that Liams romance arc was really good. Several really good moments for them there. And when he proposed it was just the icing on the cake for my Ryder.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 11:04:58 GMT
I felt that Liams romance arc was really good. Several really good moments for them there. And when he proposed it was just the icing on the cake for my Ryder. Actually, I think the Romances of both Vetra and Liam are actually quite good as far as their writing is concerend, it's just that the less total screentime and dialogue of both romance arcs when compared to the rest of the cast is really noticeable.
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Post by correctamundo on May 22, 2017 11:07:34 GMT
I felt that Liams romance arc was really good. Several really good moments for them there. And when he proposed it was just the icing on the cake for my Ryder. Actually, I think the Romances of both Vetra and Liam are actually quite good as far as their writing is concerend, it's just that the less total screentime and dialogue of both romance arcs when compared to the rest of the cast is really noticeable. That may be tru, anyway I see what you mean.
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Post by suikoden on May 22, 2017 15:25:23 GMT
Good selling games don't have to go on sale. That's why Zelda is so high on the chart. It's almost like you didn't even watch the vid and just started foaming at the mouth when you saw my post. Enjoy your multiplayer map pack DLC! They don't have to, but they always do. It's like you live in a fantasy world. A fantasy world in which I play multiplayer, apparently. What a world. The point was that Zelda doesn't have to go on sale 30% two days after release (50% off now) to sell. But that would've only been clear if you watched the video - which you didn't. Second point was that Andromeda is only going to be getting multiplayer DLC - but way to make things all about you. Enjoy your 50% off multiplayer DLC!
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Post by kino on May 22, 2017 15:37:03 GMT
They don't have to, but they always do. It's like you live in a fantasy world. A fantasy world in which I play multiplayer, apparently. What a world. The point was that Zelda doesn't have to go on sale 30% two days after release (50% off now) to sell. But that would've only been clear if you watched the video - which you didn't. Second point was that Andromeda is only going to be getting multiplayer DLC - but way to make things all about you. Enjoy your 50% off multiplayer DLC! Are you sure you watched that video? I'm beginning to wonder... The host says BotW won't go on sale. It'll never go on sale because Nintendo doesn't do sales for their games. Not because it's selling well, which it is, but because it's Nintendo. Pointing at BotW as a game too good to go on sale is just a wee bit inaccurate.
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Post by abaris on May 22, 2017 15:39:31 GMT
Pointing at BotW as a game too good to go on sale is just a wee bit inaccurate. And comparing apples to oranges to boot. Platform game vs multiplatform. So as good as it may be, I will never experience it, since I don't buy a rather pricey piece of hardware for a frigging game.
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Post by sdzald on May 22, 2017 16:05:13 GMT
Out of all the posts I've made about ME:A I've never once mentioned facial animations. Falling through the floor while using Biotics and having to force start the game, enemies stuck in walls either killing you, keeping you from completing a quest, finishing missions and getting killed during dialogue scenes with the dialogue wheel up, just to name a few. I've never had these types of issues with a Bioware game before. When you have force close your game, or reload saves from earlier in the game to replay sections you've already completed you go past normal first day bugs to bugs that ruin your enjoyment, or make you not even want to play the game. People who were lucky and didn;t experience bad bugs seem to want to act as if other people are exaggerating or blowing things out of proportion because they haven't seen these bugs themselves. But the technical issues of the game went way past facial animations. Only game I can remember that was worse than this was Arkham City on PC. This. I've never once brought up the facial animations as an issue. And the weirdest thing is that it's the same freaking people who keep claiming that the game was not buggy at release, despite our repeated and ample proofs to the contrary. It really cracks me up when I see fanboys/shills ignoring all the bugs this game has. Just go to EA's own Answer/Bugs forum answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/bd-p/mass-effect-andromeda-bug-reports-enTake a look at +135 PAGES of bug reports. But MEA's problems go a LOT deeper then the bugs, the basic story, awful characters, meaningless dialog choices, just to mention a few. With all that said. EA may not have reached sales expectations but considering they only invested ~45 million in the game, not a high amount for an AAA game, they are going to more then cover that. They will make a profit on the game, just not maybe as much as they thought. That is ALL EA cares about. One last note I can not understand why so many people do not understand the emotional hate being directed at MEA. All you have to do is look at what happened at the end of ME3 to know the hate was already there. Bioware needed MEA to be a solid game, few bugs, likable characters and a good story to bring that hate down a notch. Instead we got the awful mess MEA is. Much of the hate being spewed at MEA, rightly or wrongly comes from the end of ME3.
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Post by smilesja on May 22, 2017 16:14:29 GMT
This. I've never once brought up the facial animations as an issue. And the weirdest thing is that it's the same freaking people who keep claiming that the game was not buggy at release, despite our repeated and ample proofs to the contrary. It really cracks me up when I see fanboys/shills ignoring all the bugs this game has. Just go to EA's own Answer/Bugs forum answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/bd-p/mass-effect-andromeda-bug-reports-enTake a look at +135 PAGES of bug reports. But MEA's problems go a LOT deeper then the bugs, the basic story, awful characters, meaningless dialog choices, just to mention a few. With all that said. EA may not have reached sales expectations but considering they only invested ~45 million in the game, not a high amount for an AAA game, they are going to more then cover that. They will make a profit on the game, just not maybe as much as they thought. That is ALL EA cares about. One last note I can not understand why so many people do not understand the emotional hate being directed at MEA. All you have to do is look at what happened at the end of ME3 to know the hate was already there. Bioware needed MEA to be a solid game, few bugs, likable characters and a good story to bring that hate down a notch. Instead we got the awful mess MEA is. Much of the hate being spewed at MEA, rightly or wrongly comes from the end of ME3. I don't think anyone is denying the amount of bugs me: a has it's just that they encountered few as for the rest well it's all subjective
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Post by R'Shara on May 22, 2017 16:18:43 GMT
It really cracks me up when I see fanboys/shills ignoring all the bugs this game has. Just go to EA's own Answer/Bugs forum answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/bd-p/mass-effect-andromeda-bug-reports-enTake a look at +135 PAGES of bug reports. But MEA's problems go a LOT deeper then the bugs, the basic story, awful characters, meaningless dialog choices, just to mention a few. With all that said. EA may not have reached sales expectations but considering they only invested ~45 million in the game, not a high amount for an AAA game, they are going to more then cover that. They will make a profit on the game, just not maybe as much as they thought. That is ALL EA cares about. One last note I can not understand why so many people do not understand the emotional hate being directed at MEA. All you have to do is look at what happened at the end of ME3 to know the hate was already there. Bioware needed MEA to be a solid game, few bugs, likable characters and a good story to bring that hate down a notch. Instead we got the awful mess MEA is. Much of the hate being spewed at MEA, rightly or wrongly comes from the end of ME3. I don't think anyone is denying the amount of bugs me: a has it's just that they encountered few as for the rest well it's all subjective You and I have both seen more than a few "It didn't happen for me so it doesn't exist" attitudes around here.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 22, 2017 16:21:26 GMT
Unless I'm seeing things, it's usually a pattern of the same few names throughout, and it's not always for consistently repeatable bugs. On average I'd say the major stuff is largely acknowledged by most users, at least in my own observation. I should know; I practically live here (next to zipzap's ryncol distillery).
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 22, 2017 16:30:01 GMT
I don't think anyone is denying the amount of bugs me: a has it's just that they encountered few as for the rest well it's all subjective You and I have both seen more than a few "It didn't happen for me so it doesn't exist" attitudes around here. I've certainly seen you blow this whole matter out of proportion, yes. The game has bugs, report them. Then wait for them to get fixed. It's not buggy for everyone, and it's cool for those folks to report that as well. Life goes on.
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Post by duckley on May 22, 2017 16:44:34 GMT
This. I've never once brought up the facial animations as an issue. And the weirdest thing is that it's the same freaking people who keep claiming that the game was not buggy at release, despite our repeated and ample proofs to the contrary. It really cracks me up when I see fanboys/shills ignoring all the bugs this game has. Just go to EA's own Answer/Bugs forum answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/bd-p/mass-effect-andromeda-bug-reports-enTake a look at +135 PAGES of bug reports. But MEA's problems go a LOT deeper then the bugs, the basic story, awful characters, meaningless dialog choices, just to mention a few. With all that said. EA may not have reached sales expectations but considering they only invested ~45 million in the game, not a high amount for an AAA game, they are going to more then cover that. They will make a profit on the game, just not maybe as much as they thought. That is ALL EA cares about. One last note I can not understand why so many people do not understand the emotional hate being directed at MEA. All you have to do is look at what happened at the end of ME3 to know the hate was already there. Bioware needed MEA to be a solid game, few bugs, likable characters and a good story to bring that hate down a notch. Instead we got the awful mess MEA is. Much of the hate being spewed at MEA, rightly or wrongly comes from the end of ME3. I just need to say that I have had no bugs or glitches in my game. I only have two real complaints about the game - font size and of course the facial/body animations, and some minor criticisms such as limited CC. Aside from that, unlike you I loved the game - had a blast playing it and will start my next play through shortly. I loved the story, loved some of the characters (especially my Ryder) and from my perspective they laid a great foundation for a ton of interesting stories and sequels. I understand that those with buggy games would be mad - really mad. But other than that I truly would like to understand the enduring hate now, as well as the level of venomous hatred then. If someone hated ME3 and hated the ending then why bother playing ME:A until the reviews were in. Why carry on with the hatred months after release. I just don't understand why some seem unable to accept that that in their opinion MEA is a bad game - just like a bad movie or a bad novel and move on. I have no doubt Bioware is well aware of the valid criticism. I also hope they are aware that some really enjoy the game! As for Zelda - I am old enough to have played Zelda from its inception and from my perspective is in a totally different class that any other game you can mention from a nostalgia perspective alone! Whether the latest installment is good or bad is irrelevant IMO - its a Zelda game!!!!
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Post by abaris on May 22, 2017 16:45:20 GMT
It's not buggy for everyone, and it's cool for those folks to report that as well. It's still buggy, but not gamebreaking buggy. Chances are you won't see the bugs, since there's still a human contortionist in Cryo. You don't go into the pod wing usually, and that's the only chance to find him. I went there and had a good laugh at a head turning a 180 degrees. No biggie, but they haven't taken care of everything as of yet. It's certainly not bugged to the extent of being unplayable.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on May 22, 2017 16:48:03 GMT
Saw the video before I saw this thread. I need more than some YouTuber making assumptions based off of limited info. While I am sure the game didn't sell as well as they were hoping I think it is far from a financial disaster.
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Post by samhain444 on May 22, 2017 16:48:36 GMT
This. I've never once brought up the facial animations as an issue. And the weirdest thing is that it's the same freaking people who keep claiming that the game was not buggy at release, despite our repeated and ample proofs to the contrary. It really cracks me up when I see fanboys/shills ignoring all the bugs this game has. Just go to EA's own Answer/Bugs forum answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/bd-p/mass-effect-andromeda-bug-reports-enTake a look at +135 PAGES of bug reports. But MEA's problems go a LOT deeper then the bugs, the basic story, awful characters, meaningless dialog choices, just to mention a few. With all that said. EA may not have reached sales expectations but considering they only invested ~45 million in the game, not a high amount for an AAA game, they are going to more then cover that. They will make a profit on the game, just not maybe as much as they thought. That is ALL EA cares about. One last note I can not understand why so many people do not understand the emotional hate being directed at MEA. All you have to do is look at what happened at the end of ME3 to know the hate was already there. Bioware needed MEA to be a solid game, few bugs, likable characters and a good story to bring that hate down a notch. Instead we got the awful mess MEA is. Much of the hate being spewed at MEA, rightly or wrongly comes from the end of ME3. I've played through the game three times - once on XBox1 and twice on PS4 - and have only encountered 5 bugs total in over 200hrs where I've had to restart. Obviously, the bugs exist as the website is right there but different people have had different experiences so responses are not going to be uniform. As for "awful characters, meaningless dialog choices", purely subjective. The only character didn't like or connect with was Liam, but, other than him, each character had a pretty solid story arc. Sorry you didn't enjoy it, hopefully ME:A 2 is better for you.
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Post by R'Shara on May 22, 2017 16:50:47 GMT
duckley: Because we want Andromeda to be the game we were hoping for. I like Andromeda. It's fun. But it doesn't grab me and pull me in like previous installments did. And apparently, raising a fuss is the only way to get issues resolved. abaris: For some, it's still gamebreaking buggy. The latest patch has fixed many of the bugs I've had, but there are still quite a few outstanding for other people that prevent them from playing the game at all.
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Post by abaris on May 22, 2017 16:53:37 GMT
For some, it's still gamebreaking buggy. The latest patch has fixed many of the bugs I've had, but there are still quite a few outstanding for other people that prevent them from playing the game at all. So give me any example of where it's gamebreaking buggy. Maybe I haven't run into it, since I certainly didn't do each and every sidequest.
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Post by correctamundo on May 22, 2017 16:58:46 GMT
Yup, there are bugs. And they go reported to the ones that actually can do something about. Anyway ME2 is still my most bugged ME game so far.
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Post by R'Shara on May 22, 2017 17:12:03 GMT
For some, it's still gamebreaking buggy. The latest patch has fixed many of the bugs I've had, but there are still quite a few outstanding for other people that prevent them from playing the game at all. So give me any example of where it's gamebreaking buggy. Maybe I haven't run into it, since I certainly didn't do each and every sidequest. If you tried to approach the Nexus, the game would crash or freeze. It was fixed with either 1.05 or 1.06, but that was fun. 2/3 of the time, when trying to fight the Architect on Eos, the game would soft lock because the animation of the Architect bursting out of the ground wouldn't trigger. Fixed with 1.06 as far as I can tell. Stuck enemies in various vaults and kett bases prevented you from interacting with the final console or thingamajiggy. Still happening. Crashing when approaching a specific area of Kadara. Semi-fixed with 1.07. Not able to Extract or Exit to Tempest. Introduced with 1.06. You have to get in the Nomad and drive off a cliff to force a respawn before you can get off world. 15 page thread on Answers HQ about not being able to launch the game at all after the hotfix. (it's marked as solved, lol. It's not) There are more, I'm sure. These are just the ones I've seen while reading about other things.
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Post by abaris on May 22, 2017 17:17:20 GMT
If you tried to approach the Nexus, the game would crash or freeze. It was fixed with either 1.05 or 1.06, but that was fun. 2/3 of the time, when trying to fight the Architect on Eos, the game would soft lock because the animation of the Architect bursting out of the ground wouldn't trigger. Fixed with 1.06 as far as I can tell. Stuck enemies in various vaults and kett bases prevented you from interacting with the final console or thingamajiggy. Still happening. Crashing when approaching a specific area of Kadara. Semi-fixed with 1.07. Not able to Extract or Exit to Tempest. Introduced with 1.06. You have to get in the Nomad and drive off a cliff to force a respawn before you can get off world. 15 page thread on Answers HQ about not being able to launch the game at all after the hotfix. (it's marked as solved, lol. It's not) There are more, I'm sure. These are just the ones I've seen while reading about other things. Before the last patch I ran into some, but not all of them. Game freezing when approaching something on the star map, I had that, but it was my own fault, since I had disabled vsync. Since I have that enabled, no more freezing. As far as the architect on Eos, yes that was a problem, but different to yours. It turned invulnerable on me, since it took flight with a totally damaged leg, which didn't register upon landing. So you could shoot at it as much as you liked, you did no damage at all. Fixed with the latest patches.
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Post by R'Shara on May 22, 2017 17:23:33 GMT
Everyone's experience is different, which is fine. But looking at EA's page, there are still a significant number of people who aren't able to play or progress in the game -- i.e. gamebreakingly buggy.
The last couple days have been the first time I've gotten through an entire gaming session without hitting a bug that required going back to a previous save and praying that the bug doesn't happen again. A lot of people still can't do that much.
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Post by London on May 22, 2017 17:25:11 GMT
Video seems logical to me. Game simply wasn't that good and got mediocre reviews. I get this is a BioWare fan forum but ME:A is already uninstalled for me and I won't be buying any DLC for it. I am uncertain I would buy future entries.
Meanwhile I've pre-ordered special editions for every game BioWare released since I discovered them with DA:O.
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Post by samhain444 on May 22, 2017 17:28:04 GMT
The only bugs I've encountered are:
- Dracks Loyalty mission - When it got to the end, it would start glitching out and all the characters would just float in a "T" or "Cross" formation until it just went to a black screen and didn't come back. Restart fixed it.
- One of the very first missions, scanning for sabotage, if you didn't do them in the right order, it would lock out - When Cora tossed her flower seeds in the air on Eos, it froze and required a restart - "S.O.S." that's since been patched. - On Voeld settlement, one time I kept falling through the "floor" and it kept repeating until reset
I know there are more for others but that's all I encountered
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