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Post by hanskey on May 24, 2017 22:10:27 GMT
Here's one I just noticed in updating my weapon stats sheet today. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d_YezAcp3z1BN4jnXd-mqvyPrsKMFqrzyLnFz7N99vA/edit#gid=2144877432Apparently, in the latest game files the weight of most weapons is up (as of Patch 1.07) anywhere from 10% to 25%. I assume this is the trade-off for better power/combo damage. Maybe they mentioned it in Patch notes, but I didn't see anything, so I thought I'd obviously share with you all. #WorkingAsIntended #MostPlayTestedEvah Notice any other interesting trade-off, then please share.
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Post by JRandall0308 on May 25, 2017 0:38:29 GMT
Jeezus fucking christ could they at least diff their game files and output that somewhere?
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Post by gethadept on May 25, 2017 1:04:17 GMT
i had a hunch hurricane got heavier.
wrong? lol
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Post by vomder on May 25, 2017 1:30:40 GMT
Fucking patch notes, how do they work?
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Post by CommanderSanders on May 25, 2017 3:44:52 GMT
Ugh. That's pretty shitheaded of them to do. I thought they wanted incentivize players into using a primary and a low-weight secondary...
Also, to not have listed this in the patch notes? Come on, Bioware. That's at least 2 pretty big changes that I know of that's not listed in 1.07, which was supposedly a single-player patch. The lack of communication right now is dreadful.
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Post by cryosferon on May 25, 2017 4:24:48 GMT
haven't checked myself, but I actually like that very much. why would you have a 100% cooldown with a sniper rifle (etc.)? this is why the game has pistols - for casters.
people just seem to want this game as easy as possible. but I appreciate tradeoffs making choices actual choices.
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Post by sigge on May 25, 2017 4:57:47 GMT
I hadn't noticed that, actually. But I tend to run a pretty light set up, for the most part. Thanks for the information, though. I have the Sidewinder as back up on almost every kit. It's lightweight and pretty powerful. It's the perfect side arm, imo.
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Post by N7Mith on May 25, 2017 9:38:12 GMT
Ugh. That's pretty shitheaded of them to do. I thought they wanted incentivize players into using a primary and a low-weight secondary... Also, to not have listed this in the patch notes? Come on, Bioware. That's at least 2 pretty big changes that I know of that's not listed in 1.07, which was supposedly a single-player patch. The lack of communication right now is dreadful. What was the 1st?
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Post by Transcended One on May 25, 2017 10:09:27 GMT
Ugh. That's pretty shitheaded of them to do. I thought they wanted incentivize players into using a primary and a low-weight secondary... Also, to not have listed this in the patch notes? Come on, Bioware. That's at least 2 pretty big changes that I know of that's not listed in 1.07, which was supposedly a single-player patch. The lack of communication right now is dreadful. What was the 1st? The Expert pack 'fix'.
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Post by N7Mith on May 25, 2017 12:22:07 GMT
Ah right. That was warranted though.
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Post by unclemonster on May 25, 2017 12:52:12 GMT
Ah right. That was warranted though. I hated that fix! my UR have been costing me $1 million each! My friend and I both have the worst luck as we are not seeing the 400k+ average everyone else is...
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Post by N7Mith on May 25, 2017 13:05:20 GMT
Ah right. That was warranted though. I hated that fix! my UR have been costing me $1 million each! My friend and I both have the worst luck as we are not seeing the 400k+ average everyone else is... Hate it if you must, it was stupid that cheaper packs were better. On ME3MP I got max manifest after 700+ hours, which was fast. MEAMP will still get there in half the time. But me3 was more fun tto grind. Ontopic though; I really don't suffer from this change. But I almost only take 1 weapon on all kits, and don't like sniping. But a lot of the shotguns feel too light. With most shotguns you still stay on 100% recharge. I wouldn't mind if they got another increase, so only katana and disciple stay on/under 30 weight.
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Post by Whoateallmypasghetti on May 25, 2017 13:50:34 GMT
Keep going at this rate and next patch there will be no notes whatsoever
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Post by unclemonster on May 25, 2017 14:04:01 GMT
I hated that fix! my UR have been costing me $1 million each! My friend and I both have the worst luck as we are not seeing the 400k+ average everyone else is... Hate it if you must, it was stupid that cheaper packs were better. On ME3MP I got max manifest after 700+ hours, which was fast. MEAMP will still get there in half the time. But me3 was more fun tto grind. Ontopic though; I really don't suffer from this change. But I almost only take 1 weapon on all kits, and don't like sniping. But a lot of the shotguns feel too light. With most shotguns you still stay on 100% recharge. I wouldn't mind if they got another increase, so only katana and disciple stay on/under 30 weight. I understand and do agree with the fix (don't have to like it though LOL). It is just a little discouraging, but my RNG luck will turn around!
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Post by CommanderSanders on May 25, 2017 14:33:28 GMT
Ah right. That was warranted though. Don't get me wrong. It should have been changed and I'm glad it did. There was no reason to get Premiums before the change. I just wish that they would have said something in a Twitter post or some PATCH NOTES.
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Post by Kenny Bania on May 25, 2017 14:44:22 GMT
Keep going at this rate and next patch there will be no notes whatsoever I lol'd.
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Post by Bzilla024 on May 25, 2017 14:51:37 GMT
I'm sure there is a new equipment coming out that reduces your weight and increases your hate towards BW.
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Post by nastrodamus on May 25, 2017 20:37:54 GMT
This just reaffirms going back fully into me3.
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Post by hanskey on May 25, 2017 20:40:08 GMT
I just can't help but wonder if they are doing things like this on purpose, or not?
Edit: The trouble is, I'm not sure if intentionally stealth nerfing or UNintentionally stealth nerfing is worse, honestly.
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Post by hanskey on May 25, 2017 20:45:55 GMT
i had a hunch hurricane got heavier. wrong? lol By the time I got to updating the Hurricane I stopped tracking exactly which ones changed, because nearly all changed, but I believe it is on the list of weight nerfed weapons. On the weapons I found that had weight increases, the weight increased the most in the lower Ranks (the most for Rank I) with the smallest increases in the Rank X level.
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Post by crashsuit on May 25, 2017 21:17:08 GMT
"I have altered the stats, pray I don't alter them further"
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Post by JRandall0308 on May 25, 2017 21:21:21 GMT
You can say what you want about Darth Vader but at least he told Lando when the deal was altered.
BiowareVader would just stand there silently and ignore Lando.
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Post by Gya on May 25, 2017 21:55:22 GMT
You can say what you want about Darth Vader but at least he told Lando when the deal was altered. BiowareVader would just stand there silently and ignore Lando. "Lord Vader, have you found the stolen Death Star plans?" "I'm looking into it"
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Post by hanskey on May 25, 2017 22:04:00 GMT
No, no, anytime Lord Biovader gets asked a question he turns the fleet around and re-enters the asteroid field all like
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Post by Schachmatt123 on May 25, 2017 22:50:25 GMT
Ah right. That was warranted though. I hated that fix! my UR have been costing me $1 million each! My friend and I both have the worst luck as we are not seeing the 400k+ average everyone else is... That wasn't a fix, that was a severe droprate nerf. Yes, experts were better than premiums, but there were better ways to solve the issue without completely screwing experts. First step: Make premiums more attractive by simply buffing them. Only top tier consumables, and multiple supplies for each supply card. There you go. Second step: Nerf experts by reducing the pity timer from 10 to 20. And make sure that the drop rate is fixed accordingly. That way, they'll still be useful, but not the better choice. But nerfing droprates into ground while this game still has severe issues is a no go. Tl:dr: Nerfing droprates on experts was warranted - they way they did it certainly not.
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