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Post by aoibhealfae on Dec 14, 2018 19:18:16 GMT
I stay faithful with Kaidan. I never felt his Shepard would sleep with other guys out of spite because if Shepard didn't love him from the start, he would back off. He said it early on; he doesn't do flings.
I'm sorry but I watch Friends when I grew up. I've talk about it previously but I really have a hard time trying to understand why this fandom often bring up Friends' Rachel and Ross thing in the discussion about their Shepard cheating on Kaidan....
Faithful or not, Shepard and Kaidan was never toxic nor emotionally abusive nor manipulative to each other. Their relationship's separation arc never defined their entire character arc; Shepard and Kaidan both became accomplished Spectres who are independent from each other through ME2 and ME3. Even if Kaidan confronted Shepard about sleeping with either Jacob/Garrus/Thane, he get over it. He was honest about having a drink with someone else but he implied he was faithful even after Shepard's death; which is why he felt angry if you lied to him. He didn't become a drunken miser. He doesn't become jealous by complaining in length if you romance someone else except him. He didn't try to ruin Shepard's new relationship by shaving someone's head to win Shepard's back. There's no correlation between either pairings to draw any similarity beyond just a breakup. Kaidan have nothing in common with Ross. Shepard have nothing in common with Rachel.
If I make comparison regarding breakup as a romantic conflict ; I would choose Farscape's John Crichton and Aeryn Sun or Battlestar Galactica's Lee Adama and Starbuck or Killjoys' Dutch and D'avin. All of them are flawed couples who love each other and they have relationship struggles. All of them are Scifi romances too.
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Post by L2 Sentinel on Dec 16, 2018 9:59:50 GMT
A ton of the people that dislike Kaidan have cited the Horizon scene as the reason for their contempt. I don't really get it. I think the version of the Horizon conversation I see in my playthroughs is a lot more calm because Kaidan and Shepard aren't in a relationship yet. My understanding is it gets more intense if you romanced Kaidan in ME1. Maybe it's because I get the calm version that I find it so easy to forgive Kaidan. He's being pretty reasonable. In the romanced version, even if it comes to a heated argument, I think I'd still find it easy to forgive Kaidan because he has every reason not to trust Cerberus. Too many Mass Effect players have severe cases of fourth wall myopia. They think characters in game should just do what Shepard says because they're motherf*cking Shepard! I see this all the time. "Garrus is a bro because he never questions Shepard," and Kaidan/Ashley are disloyal because they don't immediately acknowledge Shepard's authenticity despite having every reason in the world not to (honestly, aside from Liara, everyone from the Normandy SR-1 should have been suspicious of Shepard). Combine that mindset with the "if you really loved me you'd drop everything to be with me" mentality and it makes it so much worse. The thing is: relationships are two way streets. It's not like Shepard drops everything to be with him, either. Players really need to try and see things from the perspective of each character. If you romanced Kaidan in ME1, this is especially so. You owe it to him to understand his point of view. That's how healthy relationships work in real life. The writers shouldn't have had Kaidan tell Shepard he forgives him/her for "cheating" on him, but I can see why he would see it that way. He wasn't sure Shepard was the real deal, a Cerberus clone, or had a brain chip installed (all things Cerberus, who he knows is evil, is 100% capable of). He just needed time. It wasn't a break so much as it was him being cautious. If Cerberus wanted to manipulate Kaidan, Shepard is his obvious weakness. He doesn't want to be a pawn in their plot. He needs to be certain he isn't falling for a trap. If Shepard proved to be real, he'd be completely on board to continue the relationship. A Shepard who loved Kaidan should have understood that and been patient. I get why some players thought it was a breakup, I'm just saying that, to him, it wasn't. If they ever remaster the series, I hope they would add more clarity to the romanced Horizon scene. Give Shepard the option for a clean breakup, but also make it clear that if you don't take the breakup option that hooking up with someone else would be cheating. As for the letter, I'm glad I never see it in my playthroughs, but it's also pretty much nothing. Kaidan went out for drinks with someone when he thought Shepard was dead, but it didn't go anywhere because Kaidan hasn't moved on from loving Shepard. I don't see how anyone could be upset with Kaidan for that. Lastly, I also want to say that I see some people romance Kaidan in ME1 even though he isn't their intended ME2/ME3 romance, and I think that's just unfair to him. Like aoibhealfae says, Kaidan is looking for commitment. If you aren't intending to stick with him for the long haul, just leave the poor guy alone. It's better for everyone.
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 16, 2018 22:39:27 GMT
In case you didn't know, top left is Kaidan's face model, bottom right is Shepard's face model. When Shepard's face model buzz cuts his hair he has the same scar Shepard has on his head.
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 16, 2018 22:46:27 GMT
Caption underneath says "...called it"
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Post by sageoflife on Dec 16, 2018 22:54:53 GMT
It's become a bit of a pet peeve of mine in fan fiction when people include Liara in the people saying "called it" because it's way too easy to interpret her as keeping Kaidan in the dark to get him out of the way.
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Kaidan looks like he was taken off-guard.
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 16, 2018 23:02:13 GMT
It's become a bit of a pet peeve of mine in fan fiction when people include Liara in the people saying "called it" because it's way too easy to interpret her as keeping Kaidan in the dark to get him out of the way. I think it says something that when Shepard tells Liara s/he is interested in A/K she STILL tries to seduce him. What a bitch. Sort of like Keri in MEA willing to be the "mistress" to a romanced Ryder. I think you can also have a fling with Peebee while romancing someone else. Maybe that says something asari having a complete disregard for relationships.
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It's become a bit of a pet peeve of mine in fan fiction when people include Liara in the people saying "called it" because it's way too easy to interpret her as keeping Kaidan in the dark to get him out of the way. I think it says something that when Shepard tells Liara s/he is interested in A/K she STILL tries to seduce him. What a bitch. Sort of like Keri in MEA willing to be the "mistress" to a romanced Ryder. I think you can also have a fling with Peebee while romancing someone else. Maybe that says something asari having a complete disregard for relationships. I think it's harder for people who really like the Asari to see, but they really are a blight on the story. Liara and Peebee both get forced on the players to a level that makes me personally extremely uncomfortable, and if there's another Mass Effect game they really need to not do that again. Sure have the mandatory Asari romance if need be, but keep ALL of the romance content locked behind actual flirt choices and lock-ins. There is no reason why I or anyone else not attracted to Asari should have to suffer through forced romance content. (examples: Peebee tackling Ryder, Liara embracing eternity, Peebee asking us to fuck out of no where...etc etc etc) Back on Topic, I love Kaidan art as always. I am positive Kaidan will always be my favorite PS3 era Romance. It's a shame I have to play it on PC to get all the content though.
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Post by roivas on Dec 17, 2018 20:28:54 GMT
So, now that tumblr is gone, I wonder where I"m going to find regular mshenko content :s I joined twitter but so far, seems like there's no mshenko blogger like on tumblr T.T
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 18, 2018 1:08:02 GMT
So, now that tumblr is gone, I wonder where I"m going to find regular mshenko content :s I joined twitter but so far, seems like there's no mshenko blogger like on tumblr T.T Tumblr still has plenty of mShenko stuff, though I admit the one where Shep is waking up Kaidan with coffee was flagged. I went to support to have them take a look and told them they were homophobic for targeting gay male intimacy that contains no nudity or sex. It did work once already so we'll see what happens.
I do have a surprising catalog of NSFW mShenko stuff but also a lot of SFW images. The SWF ought to be fine. Or you can always go to Deviant Art. Always plenty there. There are sites out there where people have moved their content, some which allow an entire Tumblr blog to be moved. I'm not super sad that the major porn is gone from Tumblr but it's a bit of a witch hunt right now. The blame is actually the kiddie porn that caused the App Store to removed Tumblr. That had to hurt Tumblr so they've taken it to an extreme. It'll settle down but it kind of sucks right now.
Tumblr claims that NSFW images aren't deleted but instead made private. You see something that tells you what happened. I suppose you could always message the authors and ask them to message you the images in question.
Here's something from Deviant Art:
Anyway, playing ME1 right now and REALLY loving all of my flirts with Kaidan. I've done Feros and Noveria so got those flirts. I saved Liara for last because it disgusts me when she comes on to me while I'm heavily invested in Kaidan. Hopefully this will avoid that. The less times she's able to "embrace eternity" with me, the better. I'm even tempted to do Virmire before Therum.
Side note: I noticed that in a new PT of ME3, even when using Gibbed to flag Shep and Kaidan from having had a relationship, the game ignores it. I don't remember that happening in the past. Could your mod have had something to do with it? Mind you, I'll gladly do a trilogy run to have their relationship recognized but it's something I wondered about.
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Post by roivas on Dec 18, 2018 18:43:31 GMT
From what I gathered about tumblr now, NSFW are hidden. Some blog are aldreay deleted. As you told, they're also tagging pg13 m/m arts (only showing a chest for exemple). Tumblr will also delete blog in the future if you're are continuing to blog/reblog "sensitive" material. Tumblr is really not a safe place for now. You might get banned just for pg13 m/m content, wtf. Anyway I'm still hoping that more mshenko fan are moving to twitter.
About about your problem with Liara, I feel the same. I usually do Feros first then Liara's mission. I like to take her on Noveria for Benezia. To avoid her to flirt with me, I just go speak to her once in the medbay when you unlock her & after that don't speak to her until I've locked Kaidan. I've never got the love triangle dialogue thing with Her & Kaidan
For your gibbed thing in ME3, can't help you I never used gibbed. Before Rondeeno's mod, I used the "console mod" in ME1 for the m/m romance
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 18, 2018 19:06:32 GMT
There are other sites that allow entire Tumblr blogs to be imported. I'd think those would be better options. You think this would be flagged?
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There are other sites that allow entire Tumblr blogs to be imported. I'd think those would be better options. You think this would be flagged? Flag? I'd salute it!
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Dec 23, 2018 17:36:06 GMT
I know I've been gone forever, but I've just been busy with AC games and my daughters senior year of high school/college apps+audtions and the like. I still love Kaidan and I try to peek in every now and then. I hope you're all doing well and for those of you who celebrate I hope your holidays are happy and healthy. And if you don't I still hope you're happy and healthy. Peace and love to you all I don't have any artworks, I quit tumblr years ago and never made a deviantart thingie. So....screenshots forever! lol Hopefully this works: Shepard + Kaidan always
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Post by aoibhealfae on Dec 25, 2018 6:01:59 GMT
Happy Christmas. Btw, there's an Omega mod in-progress which going to be a secondary hub. There's minor dance scene with your LI.
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 25, 2018 17:18:42 GMT
For your gibbed thing in ME3, can't help you I never used gibbed. Before Rondeeno's mod, I used the "console mod" in ME1 for the m/m romance I did the same. The point of the mod concerning Kaidan was that under normal circumstances using gender swap, Kaidan and Shep would forget they were in a romance. No, even later, after Kaidan rejoins the Normandy when Shep stares at his ass. For date night, the two have no idea they were already together and act like it's the first time it ever crossed their minds. The mod only seems to acknowledge an entire trilogy run in order for it to happen, or so I assume. I'll have to slog my way through ME2 to find out.
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 26, 2018 19:24:06 GMT
Shep is a KISA. Of course he's going to be carrying his love to the safety of the bedroom.
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Post by roivas on Dec 26, 2018 20:33:44 GMT
For your gibbed thing in ME3, can't help you I never used gibbed. Before Rondeeno's mod, I used the "console mod" in ME1 for the m/m romance I did the same. The point of the mod concerning Kaidan was that under normal circumstances using gender swap, Kaidan and Shep would forget they were in a romance. No, even later, after Kaidan rejoins the Normandy when Shep stares at his ass. For date night, the two have no idea they were already together and act like it's the first time it ever crossed their minds. The mod only seems to acknowledge an entire trilogy run in order for it to happen, or so I assume. I'll have to slog my way through ME2 to find out. It wa s working the same with the "console mod". If you played ME2 with a gay romance in ME1, you received the letter form Kaidan, but Kaidan speak of you as a femal character. Rondeeno just removed the gender in the letter. & If you played in ME3, you got different dialogue like with Liara on Mars or CS like the butt scene when you recruite Kaidan, but for appolo he act like it's a new romance, well kinda, I though it was still working, Horizon really felt like they broke up. Again, Rondeeno edited existing materials to make it work "better" like editing some CS or dilaogue using the ones form fshep romance. Overwall it's better with Rondeeno's mod but some part like holding hands at the Casino in Citadel DLC was really strange, the way mshep moves really really disturb me XD
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