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Post by antmarch456 on May 27, 2017 11:20:32 GMT
From what I've gathered... - Peebee, Cora and Jaal have the best romances in terms of how much content they have
- A lot of people felt that Vetra's romance was great, but underwhelming in terms of length (which is a shame, as I am currently trying to romance her in my 2nd playthrough right now)
- The rest aren't as packed as the above ones (I've also heard that Reyes has more content than Gil)
I'd like to know which romance arc has more content, in the event that I would do multiple playthroughs and would prioritize the more content-filled romances first than the lesser ones.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 17:10:10 GMT
I admit Vetra's romance is great, you can really start to see the noble side of her as a person, not just a smuggler. Sadly, it's true her romance feels like it lacks at least a few cinematic stages during developement...
Story DLC will expand on her romance, perhaps?
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 17:44:56 GMT
I have played three so far, Jaal's, Gil's and Reyes. I did not finish Liam's. Reyes has 4 romance specific cutscene segments added to his normal story that is already long. It felt as long as Jaal's, who irc had three romance specific cutscenes, but one of them is very long and detailed. Gil has two romance specific cutscenes iirc. but I might have another one waiting, as I have not finished the run. Liam's commitment cutscene was the most underwhelming bit of romantic content in the game.
For me Reyes romance that is done between multiple missions to make it Last the whole game with doing Gill's in parallel, as they do not lock one another out if you commit to Reyes first (leaving Tartarus scene for before going into the end battle) built a lot of romantic content and was a better combo than Liam+Jaal, as they lockout fairily early on. I like it when romances are heavier weighed towards the end of the game, instead of the flurry of flirts and then a dry spell.
I will try female romantic arcs next. My understanding is that both Cora and PeeBee are heavy, while Vetra and Suvi -light.
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Post by Kitsumi on May 27, 2017 22:32:16 GMT
I'm going to compare my favorite romance (Liam) with Jaal's, from my point of view Liam seems to have less content duration-wise and dialogue, not to mention his animations, we only have some kisses with him and they don't kiss, they rub each other face without moving a muscle and end sucking their necks like vampires, yeah great animations . You can't imagine my frustration with the ending kiss which is supposed to be an "epic" scene .. Anyway, is a fact that they put more effort in some romances, Cora, Peebee and Jaal have romance scenes that are twice as long than the rest romance options which is unfair, squadmate or not all deserve the same quality, I have the feeling it was cut due lack of time like many things ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Liam's romance suffers in terms of length as Vetra's but despite all of this his romance arc friends to lovers is great, really sweet and he beats Jaal romance for me because Liam is my type of guy, simple as that .
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Post by lynx7386 on May 29, 2017 0:31:58 GMT
I was incredibly disappointed by the lack of a "full" romance with vetra. I really liked her character, but all I get for my efforts is a peck on the carapace?
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Post by OneWomanArmy on May 29, 2017 13:14:26 GMT
When I played the game the first time, I expected all the romances to be fully equal, I know that was a bit naive but looking at DAI and how well they sorta handled them there I had high hopes that bioware had finally learned something, I then got extremely disappointed when I saw how poorly most of the romances were treated. Basically everyone except Cora, Jaal and Phoebe got shafted and had almost zero content, even main characters like Liam, they made him dull and boring when instead they could have given him a nice romance, just like the other three. Everyone should have been treated equally, that way the game would also have had much more variety and replay ability imo.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 13:35:23 GMT
When I played the game the first time, I expected all the romances to be fully equal, I know that was a bit naive but looking at DAI and how well they sorta handled them there I had high hopes that bioware had finally learned something, I then got extremely disappointed when I saw how poorly most of the romances were treated. Basically everyone except Cora, Jaal and Phoebe got shafted and had almost zero content, even main characters like Liam, they made him dull and boring when instead they could have given him a nice romance, just like the other three. Everyone should have been treated equally, that way the game would also have had much more variety and replay ability imo. After all the critique, I thought there will be next to nothing to Andromeda romances other than Jaal's, so I found that both Reyes and Gil had more content than I expected. I felt there were as many dialogues as in Jaal's. Now, I did not see Cora's or PeeBee's past the first couple of flirts, as they got locked out by either Reyes or Gil, so maybe I will see inequality of content distribution there. But a Jaal vs Reyes? Pretty much the same in terms of # of dialogues and plot missions centered around them. Gil's cutscenes are shorter, but in Inquisition you have Solas that barely gets any content & folks still like it because of the character appeal and head canon.
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Post by dgcatanisiri on May 31, 2017 5:48:01 GMT
Gil's romance barely qualifies for the term - about the only things that are exclusive to the romance are the kiss on Prodromos, the actual romance scene, and being able to get him to not have a child with Jill. That's it, everything else, you experience on the friendship path. He's practically an afterthought, and even calling him that is giving his 'romance' more credit than it deserves.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on May 31, 2017 8:12:32 GMT
Gil's romance barely qualifies for the term - about the only things that are exclusive to the romance are the kiss on Prodromos, the actual romance scene, and being able to get him to not have a child with Jill. That's it, everything else, you experience on the friendship path. He's practically an afterthought, and even calling him that is giving his 'romance' more credit than it deserves. Suvi's the same, sadly. She has a whopping one scene that's romance-exclusive with added flavour here and there otherwise. And not nearly as much content as squadmates even on the friendship path or in banter, either. And for some reason, not many emails, even though those are the easiest kind of character content to make. What's there is great, though. I just wish the ME:A crew were like DA:I's advisors. They even said they took cues from them. Yeah sure.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 16:37:08 GMT
Gil's romance barely qualifies for the term - about the only things that are exclusive to the romance are the kiss on Prodromos, the actual romance scene, and being able to get him to not have a child with Jill. That's it, everything else, you experience on the friendship path. He's practically an afterthought, and even calling him that is giving his 'romance' more credit than it deserves. Suvi's the same, sadly. She has a whopping one scene that's romance-exclusive with added flavour here and there otherwise. And not nearly as much content as squadmates even on the friendship path or in banter, either. And for some reason, not many emails, even though those are the easiest kind of character content to make. What's there is great, though. I just wish the ME:A crew were like DA:I's advisors. They even said they took cues from them. Yeah sure. I thought they were? Because I barely saw Leliana all game long, and got a couple of extra cutscenes with Josephine and Cullen in my PT, same stuff as Gil or Suvi get, really. I certainly don't miss the Wartable, ye gods. Am I missing something? I kept talking to them, but there was not much in Inquisition for advisors.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 1, 2017 0:12:15 GMT
Suvi's the same, sadly. She has a whopping one scene that's romance-exclusive with added flavour here and there otherwise. And not nearly as much content as squadmates even on the friendship path or in banter, either. And for some reason, not many emails, even though those are the easiest kind of character content to make. What's there is great, though. I just wish the ME:A crew were like DA:I's advisors. They even said they took cues from them. Yeah sure. I thought they were? Because I barely saw Leliana all game long, and got a couple of extra cutscenes with Josephine and Cullen in my PT, same stuff as Gil or Suvi get, really. I certainly don't miss the Wartable, ye gods. Am I missing something? I kept talking to them, but there was not much in Inquisition for advisors. Cullen and Josephine got personal quests and romance quests while Gil and Suvi did not.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 0:19:05 GMT
I thought they were? Because I barely saw Leliana all game long, and got a couple of extra cutscenes with Josephine and Cullen in my PT, same stuff as Gil or Suvi get, really. I certainly don't miss the Wartable, ye gods. Am I missing something? I kept talking to them, but there was not much in Inquisition for advisors. Cullen and Josephine got personal quests and romance quests while Gil and Suvi did not. Ah, Okay, that's what you mean. Josephine's has that extra in romance quest iirc, but I was told Cullen has a cutscene only, not an actual do things quest? I am just starting on it
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Jun 1, 2017 1:13:32 GMT
Jaal, PeeBee and Cora definitely have the most in terms of romance content, but for me, the friends to lovers story of Liams romance will always be #1. But I will always wish for more of it!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 1, 2017 1:20:35 GMT
Cullen and Josephine got personal quests and romance quests while Gil and Suvi did not. Ah, Okay, that's what you mean. Josephine's has that extra in romance quest iirc, but I was told Cullen has a cutscene only, not an actual do things quest? I am just starting on it Yes, Cullen's romance stuff isn't a quest but he does have a quest he is heavily involved in if you side with the Mages.
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Post by MarilynRobert on Jun 1, 2017 1:29:11 GMT
Cullen and Josephine got personal quests and romance quests while Gil and Suvi did not. Ah, Okay, that's what you mean. Josephine's has that extra in romance quest iirc, but I was told Cullen has a cutscene only, not an actual do things quest? I am just starting on it You get to go on a mission with Cullen and your team. You can bet I was watching Cullen fight and also trying to walk up to Cullen to look at him but he'd just go turn his back and hide in a corner.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Jun 1, 2017 2:23:25 GMT
Suvi's the same, sadly. She has a whopping one scene that's romance-exclusive with added flavour here and there otherwise. And not nearly as much content as squadmates even on the friendship path or in banter, either. And for some reason, not many emails, even though those are the easiest kind of character content to make. What's there is great, though. I just wish the ME:A crew were like DA:I's advisors. They even said they took cues from them. Yeah sure. I thought they were? Because I barely saw Leliana all game long, and got a couple of extra cutscenes with Josephine and Cullen in my PT, same stuff as Gil or Suvi get, really. I certainly don't miss the Wartable, ye gods. Am I missing something? I kept talking to them, but there was not much in Inquisition for advisors. People have already said some of this, but for comparison: Cullen's romance starts sooner, has three romance-specific scenes (as opposed to Suvi's one) in addition to romance-flavoured variations of other scenes (arguably 3x more content). Cullen has different greetings while romanced, a repeatable kiss, and a personal quest. Suvi has none of those things. He has more screentime and greater overall presence, appears in missions more, and can even join you in one. Being a Templar, he's also more plot-relevant as well. It has really spoiled me and become the Gold Standard of what Bioware romances should be. And not that I ever really believed them, but the devs saying that they "learned from DA:I's advisors" makes it worse. The ME:A crew being able to use the radio also makes it worse since they should have done so much more often; it would have been easy to give them more presence/character interaction in the game. You get to go on a mission with Cullen and your team. You can bet I was watching Cullen fight and also trying to walk up to Cullen to look at him but he'd just go turn his back and hide in a corner. That was great! I took a Battle Couple picture Smile!And made a holiday greeting card out of it, because I am a huge dork!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 11:29:13 GMT
I thought they were? Because I barely saw Leliana all game long, and got a couple of extra cutscenes with Josephine and Cullen in my PT, same stuff as Gil or Suvi get, really. I certainly don't miss the Wartable, ye gods. Am I missing something? I kept talking to them, but there was not much in Inquisition for advisors. People have already said some of this, but for comparison: Cullen's romance starts sooner, has three romance-specific scenes (as opposed to Suvi's one) in addition to romance-flavoured variations of other scenes (arguably 3x more content). Cullen has different greetings while romanced, a repeatable kiss, and a personal quest. Suvi has none of those things. He has more screentime and greater overall presence, appears in missions more, and can even join you in one. Being a Templar, he's also more plot-relevant as well. It has really spoiled me and become the Gold Standard of what Bioware romances should be. And not that I ever really believed them, but the devs saying that they "learned from DA:I's advisors" makes it worse. The ME:A crew being able to use the radio also makes it worse since they should have done so much more often; it would have been easy to give them more presence/character interaction in the game. You get to go on a mission with Cullen and your team. You can bet I was watching Cullen fight and also trying to walk up to Cullen to look at him but he'd just go turn his back and hide in a corner. That was great! I took a Battle Couple picture Smile!And made a holiday greeting card out of it, because I am a huge dork! Oh, he is like Reyes' then. Good to know. I was not expecting much. I felt I was getting more from the team in Andromeda when not in romance than in Inquisition.
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Post by MarilynRobert on Jun 1, 2017 15:26:36 GMT
I thought they were? Because I barely saw Leliana all game long, and got a couple of extra cutscenes with Josephine and Cullen in my PT, same stuff as Gil or Suvi get, really. I certainly don't miss the Wartable, ye gods. Am I missing something? I kept talking to them, but there was not much in Inquisition for advisors. People have already said some of this, but for comparison: Cullen's romance starts sooner, has three romance-specific scenes (as opposed to Suvi's one) in addition to romance-flavoured variations of other scenes (arguably 3x more content). Cullen has different greetings while romanced, a repeatable kiss, and a personal quest. Suvi has none of those things. He has more screentime and greater overall presence, appears in missions more, and can even join you in one. Being a Templar, he's also more plot-relevant as well. It has really spoiled me and become the Gold Standard of what Bioware romances should be. And not that I ever really believed them, but the devs saying that they "learned from DA:I's advisors" makes it worse. The ME:A crew being able to use the radio also makes it worse since they should have done so much more often; it would have been easy to give them more presence/character interaction in the game. You get to go on a mission with Cullen and your team. You can bet I was watching Cullen fight and also trying to walk up to Cullen to look at him but he'd just go turn his back and hide in a corner. That was great! I took a Battle Couple picture Smile!And made a holiday greeting card out of it, because I am a huge dork! IQ must have a knife pointed at his back...he looks so grumpy Great job getting a picture of your IQ with Cullen, like that...if anyone could do it, it'd be you Poor guy, walking down the stair behind them, has plants growing out of his head and face.
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Post by vana on Jun 1, 2017 22:41:15 GMT
I think there was a lot of content in Cullen's romance, and it was quite regular all along the game. Because some other romances had everyhing at the beginning and then nothing for a long time, etc. And there is a sex scene (we don't see much with Suvi, and just a kiss with Reyes)...
In ME:A my favorite romance is Jaal, he's my type of alien, I like romantic LI. He is an important character plot-wise too, so I feel that romancing him feels natural. His first e-mail surprised me because it arrived too soon (talking about flirt while I couldn't even get a flirt option yet with him).
I like Reyes too but I wish there was more content and more scenes in his romance.
I think that in general the romances are more developped in a Dragon Age than in a Mass effect... maybe because they think that there are more female players for Dragon age...?
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Post by steppinrazor on Jun 2, 2017 20:01:28 GMT
Well, I totally thought I had missed something in the Reyes romance, glad to see I didn't... But also sucks that it was so skimpy...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 20:12:37 GMT
Well, I totally thought I had missed something in the Reyes romance, glad to see I didn't... But also sucks that it was so skimpy... Well I think you kiss Reyes more times than any other male character. Do you need to see him naked?
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Post by vana on Jun 3, 2017 22:44:22 GMT
Well, I totally thought I had missed something in the Reyes romance, glad to see I didn't... But also sucks that it was so skimpy... Well I think you kiss Reyes more times than any other male character. Do you need to see him naked? Maybe not naked, but a scene with more than a kiss would have been nice. It's still a bit hard to figure what they could have done in that cave in full armor and with all the squad nearby, I'm curious
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Post by dmc1001 on Jun 4, 2017 5:14:49 GMT
Well I think you kiss Reyes more times than any other male character. Do you need to see him naked? Maybe not naked, but a scene with more than a kiss would have been nice. It's still a bit hard to figure what they could have done in that cave in full armor and with all the squad nearby, I'm curious They dance in full armor, too. However, regarding what they can do in armor, depends on if the suits "recycle" bodily excretions or not. If they don't, then there ought to be removable parts around the genital region that might just allow for some fun times, too.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jun 4, 2017 5:15:22 GMT
Well, I totally thought I had missed something in the Reyes romance, glad to see I didn't... But also sucks that it was so skimpy... It's not worse than Gil's romance. Better, I think.
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Post by vana on Jun 4, 2017 21:57:14 GMT
Maybe not naked, but a scene with more than a kiss would have been nice. It's still a bit hard to figure what they could have done in that cave in full armor and with all the squad nearby, I'm curious They dance in full armor, too. However, regarding what they can do in armor, depends on if the suits "recycle" bodily excretions or not. If they don't, then there ought to be removable parts around the genital region that might just allow for some fun times, too. But it's nicer to touch the other's skin, even just the hand, the arm, feel the skin. Doing everything in armor and with gloves, it's not really sensuous
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