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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Sept 12, 2016 4:08:00 GMT
Inspired by Voluptuous Volus 's post in the Weapons that shouldn't exist thread I guess I'm pissed not that they use Reegars, but that they use Reegars and STILL cannot do well. And usually those Reegar AIU's and other Reetards will never gel, don't help with objectives and my freaking Typhoon Volus Sentinel is left to do the work.
This brings up a subject that I haven't seen discussed here and wasn't discussed recently on BSN Prime: When is it really appropriate to use medigel? This is besides rage-gel, which I think everyone does at some point. Here is what I think I understand from this forum and BSN Prime:
1. When you are down and about to bleed out
2. When you are about to get stomped
3. 3 of 4 of your teammates are down and you need to get up to take immediate action to prevent a wipe, support extraction, or make fun Revive Pile videos
4. When you are downed on the way to the LZ for extraction and your teammates don't have enough time to come get you
5. When you need to get up immediately to continue an escort or deliver a pizza (assuming your teammates are not in the area)
Elite Players - when do you want your team to gel? When should they not do so, besides obvious rage-gels? I think one situation is when you are surrounded by several bosses, a few elite mooks and/or abombs and can't get up without being taken down again immediately - assuming you have no missiles or the game is too laggy to whip out the Cobra and nuke them.
Edit: In which case I wait to see if the enemies lose interest and then gel. If they stay huddled around looking down at me as if my character is a mobile phone, I will wait till the last second, gel, then try to dodge and die or try to whip out the Cobra and die.
Edit: Unless I'm using someone with Annihilation Field, in which case I kill more enemies while flat on my face
Should gel use be avoided on early waves to save them for tougher waves 7-9 and objective waves?
Edit: Disclaimer: I only rage gel about 39% of the time, unless I was taken out by a dragoon, in which case I follow the following guide:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 4:13:07 GMT
When I die and its fucking bull shit I rage gel. Which is 100% of the time because this game cheats and non of my deaths are my fault.
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Post by K_O_513 on Sept 12, 2016 4:16:20 GMT
you should gel so quickly that your corpse doesn't even get a chance to hit the ground. that's pro
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Post by Terminator Force on Sept 12, 2016 4:37:17 GMT
I usually rage gel. And if I run out. Then I play for real.  Or rage quit next.  |
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Post by MPApr2012 on Sept 12, 2016 4:43:47 GMT
rage gel, rage gel, rage missile everything, rage gel, rinse and repeat until finished. followed by the rage quit. that's the correct protocol
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Post by patrickbateman on Sept 12, 2016 5:10:54 GMT
I always rage gel, I don't trust pugs capability to even handle reviving.
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Post by naughtynomad on Sept 12, 2016 5:15:49 GMT
I find the MP of this game to be incredibly easy. I can basically solo most of the waves myself. I don't get the whole "not trusting pugs" thing.
You have really sick to fail.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 5:58:19 GMT
The only time I don't rage gel is when I know a sync kill unit is right above me and my stupid turianass has no dodge capabilities
That is, of course, the moment when one of my team mates will come over and choose to revive me into a sync
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Sept 12, 2016 6:08:48 GMT
I will usually gel immediately after going down, unless I died in a safe spot and a PUG can easily get to me (for example I died in soft cover from splash damage)
Other players should gel on objective waves (especially if the objective is escort/hack) or if they are about to get stomped and nobody got to them. That's about it. (it would be great if they had "an internal clock" to know when the wave is almost over) and not gel if there's 2-3 more players left.
But most importantly, they should use consumables and gear. Put on some cyclonics, put on some shield gear if you feel you go down a lot.
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Post by SalMasRac on Sept 12, 2016 6:11:07 GMT
My rage is unending, therefore gel is always warranted.
Unless I know that staying down will result in a pileup, in which case I will stay down to witness the resulting pileup and provide snarky commentary
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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Sept 12, 2016 6:32:37 GMT
I find the MP of this game to be incredibly easy. I can basically solo most of the waves myself.  |
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Post by frankiscrank on Sept 12, 2016 6:58:44 GMT
Rage gel, reload cancel gel - call it whatever you like. In most cases it will be fast enough that noone gets near me for a revive.
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Post by neocodex and 23 others on Sept 12, 2016 7:42:38 GMT
I "love" those moments when you're right beside your team and about to reload cancel with medi-gel but a geth prime turret out of nowhever shoots you in your pinkie toe and congratulations you have just wasted a medigel!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 7:58:39 GMT
Only when you hear me yell 'I'LL SAVE YOU MARY JAAAAAANE' because chances are I will die on the way to get you and you need to get back up and come get me.  |
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Post by Pearl on Sept 12, 2016 8:16:42 GMT
I always gel immediately. Joke's on the enemies, I was only sandbagging.
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Post by ashevajak on Sept 12, 2016 8:47:19 GMT
Q1: Do you have medigel?
A1: Yes
Ragegel
A2: No
Bitterly complain over the mic "all you guys suck" then ragequit.
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Post by Pounce de León on Sept 12, 2016 9:19:09 GMT
I just press the button quickly so noone notices I was downed.
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Sept 12, 2016 10:13:08 GMT
Q1: Do you have medigel? A1: Yes Ragegel A2: No Bitterly complain over the mic "all you guys suck" then ragequit.  I approve of this product and/or service |
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Post by naughtynomad on Sept 12, 2016 10:27:15 GMT
I find the MP of this game to be incredibly easy. I can basically solo most of the waves myself. I don't get the whole "not trusting pugs" thing. You have really sick to fail. How so? |
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Post by Deerber on Sept 12, 2016 10:27:42 GMT
Thou shall only use gels while raging.
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Post by inert on Sept 12, 2016 11:00:28 GMT
Medigel is the only equipment I have a constant 255 supply of. I rage gel 99% of the time just to go through it - make JEP more economical.
If the game is a bad carry, I may follow the rules in the OP just to ensure victory.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 14:15:29 GMT
When I die and its fucking bull shit I rage gel. Which is 100% of the time because this game cheats and non of my deaths are my fault. ^^ |
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Post by Lvca on Sept 12, 2016 14:15:59 GMT
Personally, I tend to always gel on gold, and mostly always on plat. Most of the time I've gone lone wolf and I don't want to disrupt other players' game. But to be completely honest, I just don't have the patience to wait for the revive and I don't trust the pugs. I will sometimes stay down for a bit waiting for grenades to explode, the synckillers to go away or to get my shit together so I decrease my level of stupid play. The only time I will not gel is when I'm getting dangerously low on medigel and I got killed in a safe position (cover, no enemy staggerlockers/snipers/synckillers) or when I knew I'd die from a DoT effect and decided to go where the teammates are so they could revive me. But I also tend not to gel as much if I play with friends, sometimes from necessity (for example when playing collectors  ). And of course, if i get killed while doing a device cause i was alone in there while the pugs are scorewhoring on the other side of the map I'll stay down, and maybe I'll bleed out too if I feel like it. As for other people, I expect anyone to gel when about to be stomped/bleed out (though if it's the last enemy of a wave or close enough and everybody else is alive I can understand bleeding out), when they've gone lone wolf (cause unless I'm playing an infiltrator I most likely won't make it in time and you knew what you were getting into when you went on your own), when it's an objective wave unless it's a safe position and somebody is really really close (or you'll revive into a synckill), and when you die in a bad place, specially if you know i'll get worse. |
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Post by andy_3_913 on Sept 12, 2016 14:27:32 GMT
I've got to the stage where it's a reflex action. I don't like waiting for someone to revive me, especially as there always seems to be one of the enemy dying to try out his new stomping boots on my head. Only time I force myself not to gel is if the game is really laggy. Then I usually end up bleeding out. (Or if I've used up my quota already  ) |
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Post by patrickbateman on Sept 12, 2016 15:31:05 GMT
I find the MP of this game to be incredibly easy. I can basically solo most of the waves myself. I don't get the whole "not trusting pugs" thing. You have really sick to fail. Time to move up from Bronze then! |
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