Character Creator

I could live with DA:I CC and ME:A hairstyles

I didn't really find the MEA hairstyles that much better than the DAI ones. There are still only a few and they're still plasticky as all get out.  Like, they're pretty much the exact same hairstyle meshes and colors that were in MET.  No improvement or not much improvement, to my eye.

Wasn't there already a theory that they went with the preset scanned faces mess to improve animations? I seem to remember that but considering the game it seems unlikely.
Anyway, of course I voted no, I highly doubt preset faces would help with animations as it isn't just the Ryder's who suffer from the issues.

I miss the da:i CC, sure the hair and eyebrow options sucked, the skin was oily for some reason, but you could still make really nice, and unique faces. (And if you had trouble there were so many sliders online you could use as a base.)

I was pretty happy with the CC, but I rarely spend a lot of time using it, either. Just a few tweaks to the default Scott. It looked good and worked well with no problems.

I don't think a watered down version of the CC is the answer in this case. Not for a BioWare game.

I always play with default characters so i couldn't care less. But if Bioware or any developer make a big deal about creating your character, you better offer a good character creator.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. After the depth of Dragon Age: Inquisition's character creator, there is NO excuse for the one we got in ME:A. Make it more simple? To avoid odd facial animations? Hells to the no. Fix the animations and get on Dragon Age's level.

The Inquisition CC, yikes.

The most afwul lighting in a CC, ever. By miles. Whoever figured it was a great idea to design your character in the Fade should've been fired on the spot.
Yes, you had a lot of hair options and such. Absolutely great and all, but it was next to impossible to use any of the longer hairstyles without clipping through the ears unless you put the ears in extremely unnaturally low positions. This pretty much restricted your hair options to a few workable ones. Unless you don't give a shit about clipping of course, or that your character looks like it has a chromosomal defect or two.
A tonne of nose options and hairbrows and whatnot, but only a few looked decent to good. Most were just awful.

They should use ME:A's CC as a base for future games, but add more options. Leave the ear position fixed and only allow for minor tweaking of the shape of the ear. Add nose options. Add brow options. Good options, not awful ones. Skin retexturing and more preset faces to schulpt. Then we'd have a beast of a CC.

OMG, I am not alone.

I make my characters in Inquisition without eyebrows and eyelashes, because they are so terrible, and I am starting to get inclined to shave the hair off too. But i can't delete the skin.

If I have to choose between animation without issues and more complex character creator (as DAI CC + improvements), then my preference is better CC. The MEA CC is already the basic one, and it doesn't work for everyone. I am happy for those who like the results, but personally I am not satisfied, especially with the male part. I care a lot about my characters and I need to like them to be able to play the game. As for now, I am waiting for the CC patch to make another Ryder for my next playthrough.

The DAI CC is much better because of more thorough customization. All the developer team had to do is to provide more ethnic diversity (won't be that hard as there are only playable humans in MEA) through adding more range to some sliders and a couple of other presets, add more hair options, better skin textures for some options and put some work into eyebrows and eyelashes. It will allow to make more varied characters as people tend to like different types of looks. It will also ensure more ethnic diversity without stereotyping.

I agree, but (and sorry for being pedantic...) the male and female hair was exactly the same in DAI across all races. The qunari had race-specific hair, but still unisex. And iirc there was like 10 variations of shaved bald hair (with one that was unique to males). It was a truly awful selection across the board. Some were OK, but the selection of hair that wasn't hideous was pretty limited unless you had access to mods.

Might be one of the oldest songs to be sung about MEA issues since release. Keep hoping and praying.. They did say they would be updating it. God knows when.

That said, I did really love my Male Ryder. Made two I liked actually. And have a nice sara. Of course, one of the males and the female look exactly like so many others out there. But one of my males seems very uncommon to see which is kind of nice.