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Post by mattjamho on Oct 1, 2017 8:28:44 GMT
Speaking of DA2 and specializations, apparently there was going to be another 3 in game; Bard, Archmage, and Juggernaut. Bard seems more southern, but I could definitely see the other two making an appearance.
Archmage could perhaps focus on giving you devistating powers, at the cost of making you a glass canon attracting enemy attention. I've always wanted a mage spec that was pure magical destruction.
Juggernaut could make you a literal battering ram, augmented with magic, you could even go toe-to-toe with golems.
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Post by phoray on Oct 1, 2017 12:20:04 GMT
I always liked the idea of Bard, but when it required Leliana to become completely useless outside of singing a buffing melody, I quickly specced her elsewhere.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 1, 2017 12:42:35 GMT
I think the problem with Bard is that the reality in game doesn't match the lore about them. Singing in the novels is merely something they use as a distraction, not as part and parcel of their actual fighting skills. I remember that with Bard in DnD I tended to ignore the singing aspect once a battle had started because they couldn't do anything else. It is the same with the Bard spec and also if you fully enhance the specialisation it means ignoring other potentially more useful attributes. Since it is also very much part of southern culture, I doubt we will see Bards in Tevinter. They have many more useful and interesting specialisms they can explore for the rogue character, including potentially introducing some new ones that are specific to Tevinter.
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 1, 2017 12:56:39 GMT
I think the problem with Bard is that the reality in game doesn't match the lore about them. Singing in the novels is merely something they use as a distraction, not as part and parcel of their actual fighting skills. I remember that with Bard in DnD I tended to ignore the singing aspect once a battle had started because they couldn't do anything else. It is the same with the Bard spec and also if you fully enhance the specialisation it means ignoring other potentially more useful attributes. Since it is also very much part of southern culture, I doubt we will see Bards in Tevinter. They have many more useful and interesting specialisms they can explore for the rogue character, including potentially introducing some new ones that are specific to Tevinter. I recall David Gaider saying that during development of DAO there wasn't much in terms of cooperation between departments, so the writers didn't have as much say in combat design as they do now, so there were things that simply didn't gel with lore as much as they'd want. So when it comes to classes in DAO, they have to be taken with a grain of salt.
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Post by phoray on Oct 1, 2017 15:35:51 GMT
All of DAO must be taken with a grain of salt. And DA2, for that matter, but for different reasons. They didn't get their lore bible together for staff use until DAI- at least, I think I'd read that on the Twitter thread.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2017 20:17:33 GMT
All of DAO must be taken with a grain of salt. And DA2, for that matter, but for different reasons. They didn't get their lore bible together for staff use until DAI- at least, I think I'd read that on the Twitter thread. Yeah, I think it was Ben Gelinas' job to get the lore out of David Gaider's head and into a useful internal document/wiki for the rest of the devs to reference.
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Post by Rascoth on Oct 2, 2017 6:20:59 GMT
I bet Archmage came with Mana Clash. Must be it. They scrapped spec, spell got lost. That's the only explanation I'll accept from now on about lack of it in later games
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 2, 2017 7:55:14 GMT
Well that would explain a lot of the discrepancies between games. I thought the internal "bible" had existed from the time of DAO but if that was only in DG's head then it would be hard for other people to maintain consistency with previous lore, particularly as it was evolving at the same time as well.
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Post by wickedcool on Oct 4, 2017 13:57:06 GMT
So looking at this thread and 2 threads below it(one of which just got locked) is the "leak" just fiction. Did someone get a copy of the storyboard? Did the same thing happen in dai?
Basically it leaks that its da2 (mostly city life, no race choices) but far more advanced than any game before with npcs, character creation, etc. thread has been allowed to breathe and I wont disparage it but if true sounds horrible
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Oct 4, 2017 14:14:40 GMT
So looking at this thread and 2 threads below it(one of which just got locked) is the "leak" just fiction. Did someone get a copy of the storyboard? Did the same thing happen in dai? Basically it leaks that its da2 (mostly city life, no race choices) but far more advanced than any game before with npcs, character creation, etc. thread has been allowed to breathe and I wont disparage it but if true sounds horrible The validity is unknown. But I hope it's fake.
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 4, 2017 15:19:09 GMT
I don't think we should worry. Even if some of the stuff is somehow valid, I have my doubts most of it is.
And before someone points that things leaked about BW titles or DA that were legit... yeah, but most were based on surveys, and this is just someone vomiting text on 4chan.
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Post by ellawyn on Oct 4, 2017 16:22:45 GMT
The leak claims that Solas' cunning disguise is literally just switching around the vowels in his name. Call me cynical, but I'm pretty sure it's fake.
Although some of it's probably true, if only because a lot of it can be guessed at. DA4 will take place in Tevinter?!?!!? Oh golly gee, no one saw that coming!
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Oct 5, 2017 0:24:47 GMT
The leak claims that Solas' cunning disguise is literally just switching around the vowels in his name. Call me cynical, but I'm pretty sure it's fake. Although some of it's probably true, if only because a lot of it can be guessed at. DA4 will take place in Tevinter?!?!!? Oh golly gee, no one saw that coming! Did he switch the vowels around, or is it just his name backwards? #wondersofthedas
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Post by ellawyn on Oct 5, 2017 1:59:56 GMT
The leak claims that Solas' cunning disguise is literally just switching around the vowels in his name. Call me cynical, but I'm pretty sure it's fake. Although some of it's probably true, if only because a lot of it can be guessed at. DA4 will take place in Tevinter?!?!!? Oh golly gee, no one saw that coming! Did he switch the vowels around, or is it just his name backwards? #wondersofthedas Hey, listen, coming up with an anagram for your name is hard when it's only five letters long and two of those letters are S. Maybe he'll just Kingdom Hearts it up and come back as Xolass or something. Totally not related to that "Solas" fellow.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Oct 5, 2017 2:15:28 GMT
Hey, listen, coming up with an anagram for your name is hard when it's only five letters long and two of those letters are S. Maybe he'll just Kingdom Hearts it up and come back as Xolass or something. Totally not related to that "Solas" fellow. Here's an anagram: Lasso. Be wary of anyone you meet in DA4 with that name. They might rope you into their plans for world domination.
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 5, 2017 2:24:15 GMT
Hey, listen, coming up with an anagram for your name is hard when it's only five letters long and two of those letters are S. Maybe he'll just Kingdom Hearts it up and come back as Xolass or something. Totally not related to that "Solas" fellow. Here's an anagram: Lasso. Be wary of anyone you meet in DA4 with that name. They might rope you into their plans for world domination. Be wary of anybody trying to dominate your focus first and foremost ;P
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Post by ellawyn on Oct 5, 2017 2:25:36 GMT
Hey, listen, coming up with an anagram for your name is hard when it's only five letters long and two of those letters are S. Maybe he'll just Kingdom Hearts it up and come back as Xolass or something. Totally not related to that "Solas" fellow. Here's an anagram: Lasso. Be wary of anyone you meet in DA4 with that name. They might rope you into their plans for world domination. Somewhere there's an alternate universe where Weekes didn't bother with the whole "Fen'harel, Dread Wolf" thing and just named Solas' personal quest "Lasso."
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Post by arvaarad on Oct 5, 2017 13:15:23 GMT
So looking at this thread and 2 threads below it(one of which just got locked) is the "leak" just fiction. Did someone get a copy of the storyboard? Did the same thing happen in dai? Basically it leaks that its da2 (mostly city life, no race choices) but far more advanced than any game before with npcs, character creation, etc. thread has been allowed to breathe and I wont disparage it but if true sounds horrible How can I say this delicately? When I came to that thread, I saw a flurry of "Show Post" buttons. I'm sure that poster is a fine upstanding fellow, but at some point past-me decided to block them. Somehow, I had gotten the (I'm sure mistaken) impression that this model citizen didn't post anything worth reading. Perhaps I should unblock them and see what they're saying now. Though, given the feverish double-posting they're doing in that thread... perhaps not.
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 5, 2017 13:40:48 GMT
Hey, listen, coming up with an anagram for your name is hard when it's only five letters long and two of those letters are S. Maybe he'll just Kingdom Hearts it up and come back as Xolass or something. Totally not related to that "Solas" fellow. Here's an anagram: Lasso. Be wary of anyone you meet in DA4 with that name. They might rope you into their plans for world domination. I read this as "rope you into their pants" and I have no regrets.
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Post by ellawyn on Oct 5, 2017 16:43:08 GMT
Here's an anagram: Lasso. Be wary of anyone you meet in DA4 with that name. They might rope you into their plans for world domination. I read this as "rope you into their pants" and I have no regrets. Hey those are some pants that I wouldn't mind being roped into. Also "rope you into their pants for world domination" dammit this entire time Lavellan's been playing right into Solas' sexy, sexy trap.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Oct 5, 2017 16:52:49 GMT
I read this as "rope you into their pants" and I have no regrets. Hey those are some pants that I wouldn't mind being roped into. Also "rope you into their pants for world domination" dammit this entire time Lavellan's been playing right into Solas' sexy, sexy trap. Playing into it? My Lavellan volunteered herself!
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Post by Solas on Oct 5, 2017 17:11:14 GMT
i heard that Lolas is incredibly legit tbh fam
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 5, 2017 17:12:58 GMT
i heard that Lolas is incredibly legit tbh fam I assume that Legolas is his cousin?
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Post by smilesja on Oct 6, 2017 17:08:50 GMT
i heard that Lolas is incredibly legit tbh fam Him changing his name gotta be important.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 19:35:13 GMT
this is more off topic than speculation, but i wanted to share it anyway.
do you guys pity the Orlesian Wardens? I mean, poor guys, they are always in the middle of something, being manipulated and then fucking some things up, like Genevieve or his brother, yes i count two different incidents since they didn't decide at the same time. And then you have the famous Siege of Adamant, for starts not only two times, but three xD, and i'm not a lore expert so i'm not aware if there are more, but it's something to remark tho i think lol.
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