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Post by bshep on Jun 7, 2017 2:18:30 GMT
That's just a game mechanic. Drack, Lexi and Kallo are not available to romance, that does not mean they do not have sexuality, it just isn't an in-game option. Has there ever been a BW companion who is bi canonically but not a romance option for either gender? Pls don't say Jaal before this patch Maybe Aria T'Loak.  |
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Post by Dobby on Jun 7, 2017 2:21:17 GMT
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Post by melbella on Jun 7, 2017 2:23:49 GMT
Erm...Jaal before the patch wouldn't qualify since he was romanceable by Sara.  did he say he only likes woman? The question was "canonically bi but not romanceable by either gender." Jaal wouldn't qualify regardless if he was bi or not, since he WAS romanceable by Sara. |
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Post by melbella on Jun 7, 2017 2:25:14 GMT
All I wanted was more Reyes
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Post by Evanoel on Jun 7, 2017 2:31:24 GMT
All I wanted was more Reyes Same. |
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Post by samhain444 on Jun 7, 2017 2:53:49 GMT
This thread delivers!
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Post by LilTIM on Jun 7, 2017 2:54:00 GMT
Poor Jaal he loved some angara woman which then married his brother instead, then later a female alien starts wooing him and he is all awkward about it, and now the ship's captain is drugging his food so he can fuck all over him (literally). Jaal deserved better.
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Post by sageoflife on Jun 7, 2017 3:07:57 GMT
And despite all that they still managed to put in the subtext of "being gay is wrong because they won't make babies." I'm not sure why you think that's supposed to impress me. no it's did not. not in anyway. You don't get that theme if the end of the story you have a kid with 2 dad's who are lovers. Are you gay? If not, then you don't get to lecture me about what's homophobic. I know what they were going for. What I'm criticizing is the execution, which plays into some homophobic tropes that have a very long and ugly history. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 3:39:33 GMT
no it's did not. not in anyway. You don't get that theme if the end of the story you have a kid with 2 dad's who are lovers. Are you gay? If not, then you don't get to lecture me about what's homophobic. I know what they were going for. What I'm criticizing is the execution, which plays into some homophobic tropes that have a very long and ugly history. Makes no sense about the baby thing. There's gay Angara in the game, and Jaal could care less about kids with Sara. He even wants to live alone with her. He's not a typical Angara by the end of the game. It's only his mother who pushes the issue. |
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Post by alanc9 on Jun 7, 2017 3:47:23 GMT
That's just a game mechanic. Drack, Lexi and Kallo are not available to romance, that does not mean they do not have sexuality, it just isn't an in-game option. Has there ever been a BW companion who is bi canonically but not a romance option for either gender? Pls don't say Jaal before this patch There are several companions with indeterminate sexuality. Any of them could be anything. |
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Post by dreman999 on Jun 7, 2017 3:47:38 GMT
no it's did not. not in anyway. You don't get that theme if the end of the story you have a kid with 2 dad's who are lovers. Are you gay? If not, then you don't get to lecture me about what's homophobic. I know what they were going for. What I'm criticizing is the execution, which plays into some homophobic tropes that have a very long and ugly history. Please don't use that as a high ground. Saying because i'm not gay does not mean I don't understand. I understand. Oh I understand. And story about fathers who love one another and want raise a family together is the last thing that is anti gay. |
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Post by sageoflife on Jun 7, 2017 3:51:27 GMT
Are you gay? If not, then you don't get to lecture me about what's homophobic. I know what they were going for. What I'm criticizing is the execution, which plays into some homophobic tropes that have a very long and ugly history. Please don't use that as a high ground. Saying because i'm not gay does not mean I don't understand. I understand. Oh I understand. And story about fathers who love one another and want raise a family together is the last thing that is anti gay. If you're not gay, then no you really don't understand the baggage that comes with even teasing a gay man about how his relationships won't produce children. That argument has a long and ugly history behind it. |
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Post by Steelcan on Jun 7, 2017 3:54:10 GMT
Has there ever been a BW companion who is bi canonically but not a romance option for either gender? Pls don't say Jaal before this patch There are several companions with indeterminate sexuality. Any of them could be anything. did you see the part where I explicitly referred to "bi canonically"? |
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Post by dreman999 on Jun 7, 2017 4:03:27 GMT
Please don't use that as a high ground. Saying because i'm not gay does not mean I don't understand. I understand. Oh I understand. And story about fathers who love one another and want raise a family together is the last thing that is anti gay. If you're not gay, then no you really don't understand the baggage that comes with even teasing a gay man about how his relationships won't produce children. That argument has a long and ugly history behind it. no. You don't get to say I don't get the baggage. I get it. I get how horrible the years if seragation, unfair laws, hipacracy, the bigamy,and the unfair paranoia that gay have gone through and still do. I understand because I can emphasize I always send up against it whenever I see it. This is not the case. You don't know me, you can't say what I don't understand. I understand that a story that has two men who love ono another who want to raise a family together and start to is not homophobic. |
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Post by Eterna on Jun 7, 2017 4:05:40 GMT
I literally 100% thought Jaal was already a bi character that Scott could romance?
Am I having a stroke?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 4:16:09 GMT
I literally 100% thought Jaal was already a bi character that Scott could romance? Am I having a stroke? Haha no he was straight. We all thought he was bi before the game came out, but they only created his bi story just recently. He should have been bi, but both he and Cora had cut stuff that never went anywhere. |
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Post by trevelyanshep on Jun 7, 2017 4:16:53 GMT
Ugh, sucks about Gil and Reyes . Anyone know when this'll come out? |
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Post by auu on Jun 7, 2017 4:18:28 GMT
CC is still shit.
All they did was add some more peanuts and corn.
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Post by sageoflife on Jun 7, 2017 4:25:10 GMT
If you're not gay, then no you really don't understand the baggage that comes with even teasing a gay man about how his relationships won't produce children. That argument has a long and ugly history behind it. no. You don't get to say I don't get the baggage. I get it. I get how horrible the years if seragation, unfair laws, hipacracy, the bigamy,and the unfair paranoia that gay have gone through and still do. I understand because I can emphasize I always send up against it whenever I see it. This is not the case. You don't know me, you can't say what I don't understand. I understand that a story that has two men who love ono another who want to raise a family together and start to is not homophobic. I know that there are some things that can only be understood if you are a part of the group that experienced them. Trying to lecture an actual gay person on what is or is not homophobia is nothing more than arrogance. If you really can't see what's wrong with telling a gay man that he's making things more difficult because he won't be having children normally, then there is no hope for you. |
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Jun 7, 2017 4:26:13 GMT
I'm jazzed they added an appearance customizer on board the Tempest. I figured they'd wait a while before doing that, even though it looks like it would be pretty easy to do. I'll probably keep my current Ryders' faces, but I'd like to check out the expanded CC, and it's nice that I don't have to start a new game to do so. The fire selection mods sold by vendors look interesting. I still think it would be nice to have an actual fire selector switch, but whatever. That's probably not something they could do easily, so weapons mods with semi-auto, burst, and full auto are the next best thing. I'm assuming there are differences in accuracy, range, and stability, but I'd like to know if there are any differences in damage, too, and how exactly the rate of fire is changed. I guess I'll find out soon. That reminds me... I still hope for a better Mattock rifle some time... I know, right? I mean, I'm really happy for people who got what they want and three romances for everyone is cool and all that. Heck, I'm very happy because this has made peoples' day and that makes me happy. But holy buckets, YAASSSS a black emporium omigawd I can change Ryder's hair after events or tweak whatever I screwed up in the CC I love you for so many reasons pre-emptively patch |
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Post by lilyenachaos on Jun 7, 2017 4:28:04 GMT
CC is still shit. All they did was add some more peanuts and corn. Well, there is enough salt around here to make both peanuts and corn tasty, so I'm good with it. |
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Post by alanc9 on Jun 7, 2017 4:36:27 GMT
There are several companions with indeterminate sexuality. Any of them could be anything. did you see the part where I explicitly referred to "bi canonically"? Nope. Why are you asking that, anyway? |
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Post by dreman999 on Jun 7, 2017 4:37:55 GMT
no. You don't get to say I don't get the baggage. I get it. I get how horrible the years if seragation, unfair laws, hipacracy, the bigamy,and the unfair paranoia that gay have gone through and still do. I understand because I can emphasize I always send up against it whenever I see it. This is not the case. You don't know me, you can't say what I don't understand. I understand that a story that has two men who love ono another who want to raise a family together and start to is not homophobic. I know that there are some things that can only be understood if you are a part of the group that experienced them. Trying to lecture an actual gay person on what is or is not homophobia is nothing more than arrogance. If you really can't see what's wrong with telling a gay man that he's making things more difficult because he won't be having children normally, then there is no hope for you. stop . No. Ageing the context is that it ends with 2 guy would love one another and start a family with each other....were is the homophobic part? |
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Post by sageoflife on Jun 7, 2017 4:40:42 GMT
I know that there are some things that can only be understood if you are a part of the group that experienced them. Trying to lecture an actual gay person on what is or is not homophobia is nothing more than arrogance. If you really can't see what's wrong with telling a gay man that he's making things more difficult because he won't be having children normally, then there is no hope for you. stop . No. Ageing the context is that it ends with 2 guy would love one another and start a family with each other....were is the homophobic part? Stop being a troll. I have repeatedly explained to you how the execution played into a very old homophobic argument. If you are not a gay person, then you do not get to lecture a gay person about what is homophobic. Stop being a troll by lecturing me about something that I have lived in a way you never will. |
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Post by duckley on Jun 7, 2017 4:41:28 GMT
Congrats on giving fans what they wanted in terms of an improved CC, couldn't care less about Jamal, and had no idea this was an issue. Personally I would have liked more hetero human LI choices but that's just me... You really don't see why it would be an issue for gay men to have no options on the squad while also not being able to get every achievement? Like I said was not aware it was an issue, and I am fine with whatever changes were made... |
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