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Post by cotheer on Jun 7, 2017 8:47:57 GMT
Come on, everyone knows he was banging Garrus' dad back in the Milky Way All the while having an affair with SAM. What a slut.
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Post by BloodOfShiagur on Jun 7, 2017 8:48:27 GMT
Haha! I predicted the new bald haircut. If there is one thing Bioware are expert at, it's bald haircuts. Unfortunately it looks we are still stuck with the bulging eyeballs and fish gobs. I'm probably being too optimistic but might there be a chance they are actually trolling about the bald part? Perhaps it's the best hair they ever delivered... and going with the bald description because everyone knows the horrors of Inquisition (yeah, too optimistic. But MEA already has bald. Bald is bald, not much you can do with it. Unless you're Bioware. Bald it is.)
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Post by kalasaurus on Jun 7, 2017 8:49:41 GMT
What?! I didn't know this. Well, for a future playthrough. Yeah I'm not sure how you do it but I have seen it on youtube that you can and its funny as hell. I always respond casually so Ryder can use the air quotes at "medicinal", so maybe they hate her or something and won't share *shrug*
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 7, 2017 9:20:53 GMT
The idea that this "change" somehow ruins anything for straight women is beyond absurd. You can still romance, and he'll still be interested in you. If the fact that someone playing a Male Ryder can now romance him somehow "ruins" his romance for you, you might need to step back and evaluate why you feel that way. This isn't a retcon, nor does it break with the game's established lore. As someone said earlier, much like Kaidan being bi in ME3, this is a revision, not a retcon. I also can't wait for Smudboy to make a video lamenting that this change occured and going on about 'pandering', etc. Ah yes, Jaal will be 'shoved down your throat'. To those with concerns I suggest that if you don't flirt with Jaal, that is unlikely to happen...
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Post by aglomeracja on Jun 7, 2017 9:25:18 GMT
No one noticed that Angara are transsexual now?
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Post by PillarBiter on Jun 7, 2017 9:26:46 GMT
cool patch. Thank you, bioware. Keep 'm coming!
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Post by kalasaurus on Jun 7, 2017 9:29:29 GMT
Haha! I predicted the new bald haircut. If there is one thing Bioware are expert at, it's bald haircuts. Unfortunately it looks we are still stuck with the bulging eyeballs and fish gobs. I'm probably being too optimistic but might there be a chance they are actually trolling about the bald part? Perhaps it's the best hair they ever delivered... and going with the bald description because everyone knows the horrors of Inquisition (yeah, too optimistic. But MEA already has bald. Bald is bald, not much you can do with it. Unless you're Bioware. Bald it is.) Mhmm. 10 variations of shaved bald hair is exactly what the MEA CC needs
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Post by dalinne on Jun 7, 2017 9:32:11 GMT
It worries me the whole idea of "jaal is not going to be the same" from some women implying a bisexual man can "taint" their love. Wouldn't be fuckup if we had judged Jaal for having so many girlfriends and sexual partners before you? Wouldn't be fuckup if Jaal had judged you for having an affair with Peebee, Reyes and that reporter BEFORE him? It worries me because this is heavily connected with real life. Past sexual experiences with other people are only that: past experiences. Straight, bi or gay. The relationship is only you and him/her, don't put more people into your bed out of nowhere (unless both of you like that kind of thing). Oh, and my message to some straight girls preocupied with this, in game playing Sara you can simply pretend it's not there. But think about it, you are missing the point: NOW YOU HAVE MORE THINGS IN COMMON WITH JAAL!!!!
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Post by Amirit on Jun 7, 2017 9:37:24 GMT
Why do people think it's a bad thing for developers to talk to minorities they don't belong to themselves so they can make sure they get the portrayal of that minority right? For many reason, beginning from covering their asses "they made me do it, see?" up to "oh, don't you cry, baby, I will take away toys from that kid out their and give them to you, sure that kid would not mind, at least we are not going to ask". * It was a cheap move to begin with, and it was done at expense of another part of their audience they care the least - straight women. ... Straight women do want straight options as well. And they had it. Until now. I'm really struggling to understand - how does this change the Sara/Jaal relationship one iota? Nothing is different. I'm really confused. Suaimhneas : Bisexual men in relationships with women aren't any less bisexual. I am offended as a straight woman, who again was mistreated (we are the last to think about at the creation step and first - if they need to take away something) and as as a gamer, who really deeply passionately hates retcones of any kind. Would you re-read a book you love where suddenly after you bought the book and read it a couple of times the author decides to change a hero or two? What if the "new edition" is given you for free? Well, I would not. I do not care about Kaidan, Jacob or Thane as LIs. Hell, my romance in MEA is Reyes (yes, bi - originally bi!). But it sickens me to see yet again the same attitude - need to change something dramatically or rearrange LIs? Here, use LI's for straight girls, sure women would not mind. Where else they would go anyway?
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Post by Melcara on Jun 7, 2017 9:45:38 GMT
Why do people think it's a bad thing for developers to talk to minorities they don't belong to themselves so they can make sure they get the portrayal of that minority right? For many reason, beginning from covering their asses "they made me do it, see?" up to "oh, don't you cry, baby, I will take away toys from that kid out their and give them to you, sure that kid would not mind, at least we are not going to ask". I'm really struggling to understand - how does this change the Sara/Jaal relationship one iota? Nothing is different. I'm really confused. Suaimhneas : Bisexual men in relationships with women aren't any less bisexual. I am offended as a straight woman, who again was mistreated (we are the last to think about at the creation step and first - if they need to take away something) and as as a gamer, who really deeply passionately hates retcones of any kind. Would you re-read a book you love where suddenly after you bought the book and read it a couple of times the author decides to change a hero or two? What if the "new edition" is given you for free? Well, I would not. I do not care about Kaidan, Jacob or Thane as LIs. Hell, my romance in MEA is Reyes (yes, bi - originally bi!). But it sickens me to see yet again the same attitude - need to change something dramatically or rearrange LIs? Here, use LI's for straight girls, sure women would not mind. Where else they would go anyway? I actually agree with you about the retcons and that making Jaal bi instead of adding content to the actual M/M romances is a cheap cop-out, but how were you mistreated as a straight woman? Making Jaal bi isn't making him gay. You aren't losing anything.
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Post by unwanted on Jun 7, 2017 9:55:41 GMT
I'm probably being too optimistic but might there be a chance they are actually trolling about the bald part? Perhaps it's the best hair they ever delivered... and going with the bald description because everyone knows the horrors of Inquisition (yeah, too optimistic. But MEA already has bald. Bald is bald, not much you can do with it. Unless you're Bioware. Bald it is.) Mhmm. 10 variations of shaved bald hair is exactly what the MEA CC needs My thoughts exactly. No one can do bald like Bioware. They can make bald look as disgusting as the rest of the hair styles, they are true genius at bald............Baldware.
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Post by commandercryptarch on Jun 7, 2017 9:59:24 GMT
I finished the game a couple of days ago, after 85 tiring hours. I just cannot bring myself to play it again .I`m done. I am just waiting for DLC at this point. I have a hard time doing multiple playthroughs of games as is, because I always have limited time and a huge backlog. The next time I will do a full MEA playthrough is years away. I MAY try to modify my Ryder appearance but she has grown on me and I would feel weird if I changed her too much. Also, bi Jaal? Why not make him bi from the get-go? I romances him and I grew very attached to him, it will feel very weird to make change his personality like that. Until the very last scene, I felt my Ryder knew Jaal very well because he truly opened his heart and now it will feel like he hid a part of himself from my Ryder.Before anyone tries to call me biased...First off, I am not. Secondly, it works both ways. I wouldn` t want the gay characters to be changed in a patch. Anyway, sorry I if this seems like complaining. Enjoy the patch guys, at least we got one
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Post by Psychevore on Jun 7, 2017 9:59:27 GMT
No one noticed that Angara are transsexual now? What?
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Post by Psychevore on Jun 7, 2017 10:00:21 GMT
I finished the game a couple of days ago, after 85 tiring hours. I just cannot bring myself to play it again .I`m done. I am just waiting for DLC at this point. I have a hard time doing multiple playthroughs of games as is, because I always have limited time and a huge backlog. The next time I will do a full MEA playthrough is years away. I MAY try to modify my Ryder appearance but she has grown on me and I would feel weird if I changed her too much. Also, bi Jaal? Why not make him bi from the get-go? I romances him and I grew very attached to him, it will feel very weird to make change his personality like that. Until the very last scene, I felt my Ryder knew Jaal very well because he truly opened his heart and now it will feel like he hid a part of himself from my Ryder.Before anyone tries to call me biased...First off, I am not. Secondly, it works both ways. I wouldn` t want the gay characters to be changed in a patch. Anyway, sorry I if this seems like complaining. Enjoy the patch guys, at least we got one They didn't change his personality, just his sexuality.
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Post by unwanted on Jun 7, 2017 10:00:36 GMT
I also predicted a giant pink luminous Penis tattoo, but I guess predictions can't always be perfect.
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Post by commandercryptarch on Jun 7, 2017 10:08:21 GMT
It worries me the whole idea of "jaal is not going to be the same" from some women implying a bisexual man can "taint" their love. Wouldn't be fuckup if we had judged Jaal for having so many girlfriends and sexual partners before you? Wouldn't be fuckup if Jaal had judged you for having an affair with Peebee, Reyes and that reporter BEFORE him? It worries me because this is heavily connected with real life. Past sexual experiences with other people are only that: past experiences. Straight, bi or gay. The relationship is only you and him/her, don't put more people into your bed out of nowhere (unless both of you like that kind of thing). Oh, and my message to some straight girls preocupied with this, in game playing Sara you can simply pretend it's not there. But think about it, you are missing the point: NOW YOU HAVE MORE THINGS IN COMMON WITH JAAL!!!! For me, I just don't like any characters can be changed willy nilly. In real life, I ` ve been with both genders so I would know how awful it is to be judged like that. It is jut that I am annoyed with Biowares inconsistency sometimes. My Ryder loves Jaal more than herself so she would never care about past experiences or whatever. Tbh, bisexual Angara makes more sense lorewise because of their expresssiveness and the feelings. But now, if he says anything about guys it will seem like he hid it from her.Where in my canon, Jaal was an open book.
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Post by dalinne on Jun 7, 2017 10:11:38 GMT
It worries me the whole idea of "jaal is not going to be the same" from some women implying a bisexual man can "taint" their love. Wouldn't be fuckup if we had judged Jaal for having so many girlfriends and sexual partners before you? Wouldn't be fuckup if Jaal had judged you for having an affair with Peebee, Reyes and that reporter BEFORE him? It worries me because this is heavily connected with real life. Past sexual experiences with other people are only that: past experiences. Straight, bi or gay. The relationship is only you and him/her, don't put more people into your bed out of nowhere (unless both of you like that kind of thing). Oh, and my message to some straight girls preocupied with this, in game playing Sara you can simply pretend it's not there. But think about it, you are missing the point: NOW YOU HAVE MORE THINGS IN COMMON WITH JAAL!!!! For me, I just don't like any characters can be changed willy nilly. In real life, I ` ve been with both genders so I would know how awful it is to be judged like that. It is jut that I am annoyed with Biowares inconsistency sometimes. My Ryder loves Jaal more than herself so she would never care about past experiences or whatever. Tbh, bisexual Angara makes more sense lorewise because of their expresssiveness and the feelings. But now, if he says anything about guys it will seem like he hid it from her.Where in my canon, Jaal was an open book. Ladyconsular and company are thinking that maybe they will play the card of Jaal not having same sex previous experiences before Scott. This way they could avoid a AndersxKarl scenario when you as Female Hawke didn't know Anders and Karl were more than friends if you romance him meanwhile romancing him as MaleHawke Anders tells you.
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Post by Ahriman on Jun 7, 2017 10:14:13 GMT
Thank god, what a relief. Maybe one day they'll even get to minor things like asari Clone Wars or exotic save system.
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Post by commandercryptarch on Jun 7, 2017 10:16:12 GMT
For me, I just don't like any characters can be changed willy nilly. In real life, I ` ve been with both genders so I would know how awful it is to be judged like that. It is jut that I am annoyed with Biowares inconsistency sometimes. My Ryder loves Jaal more than herself so she would never care about past experiences or whatever. Tbh, bisexual Angara makes more sense lorewise because of their expresssiveness and the feelings. But now, if he says anything about guys it will seem like he hid it from her.Where in my canon, Jaal was an open book. Ladyconsular and company are thinking that maybe they will play the card of Jaal not having same sex previous experiences before Scott. This way they could avoid a AndersxKarl scenario when you as Female Hawke didn't know Anders and Karl were more than friends if you romance him meanwhile romancing him as MaleHawke Anders tells you. Ooooooh I see. That makes sense. Seems much more logical to go that direction.
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Post by abaris on Jun 7, 2017 10:21:14 GMT
Hell, my romance in MEA is Reyes (yes, bi - originally bi!). I'm not a woman, but I played Sara. I considered who she would fall for most likely, and out came Reyes. He seems by far the most interesting and multifacetted character as far as female options go. Problem is, you confine yourself to only one Kadara resolution, taking that approach. If you want to keep Reyes around, that is.
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Post by commandercryptarch on Jun 7, 2017 10:23:07 GMT
On another note, is there any news of the Asari? Seriously, I am sick of seeing Lexi everywhere.The handling of the Asari has been one of the worst oversights. They only needed to do what they did in the trilogy from the start. Give the important Asari characters unique faces and give the Asari NPCs variations of at least one face model.
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Post by abaris on Jun 7, 2017 10:29:39 GMT
On another note, is there any news of the Asari? Seriously, I am sick of seeing Lexi everywhere.The handling of the Asari has been one of the worst oversights. They only needed to do what they did in the trilogy from the start. Give the important Asari characters unique faces and give the Asari NPCs variations of at least one face model. Why would there be? They never even acknowledged the problem, nor did they say something about fixing it. I guess that's water under the bridge, since they won't develop new character models for a patch.
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Post by Amirit on Jun 7, 2017 10:31:53 GMT
For many reason, beginning from covering their asses "they made me do it, see?" up to "oh, don't you cry, baby, I will take away toys from that kid out their and give them to you, sure that kid would not mind, at least we are not going to ask". Suaimhneas : Bisexual men in relationships with women aren't any less bisexual. I am offended as a straight woman, who again was mistreated (we are the last to think about at the creation step and first - if they need to take away something) and as as a gamer, who really deeply passionately hates retcones of any kind. Would you re-read a book you love where suddenly after you bought the book and read it a couple of times the author decides to change a hero or two? What if the "new edition" is given you for free? Well, I would not. I do not care about Kaidan, Jacob or Thane as LIs. Hell, my romance in MEA is Reyes (yes, bi - originally bi!). But it sickens me to see yet again the same attitude - need to change something dramatically or rearrange LIs? Here, use LI's for straight girls, sure women would not mind. Where else they would go anyway? I actually agree with you about the retcons and that making Jaal bi instead of adding content to the actual M/M romances is a cheap cop-out, but how were you mistreated as a straight woman? Making Jaal bi isn't making him gay. You aren't losing anything. I though I explained - it's second time when they retconed a straight women LI into bi. Do you remember a single case where gay character was turned into bi? Any case when male-gamers LI was turned bi? Yet, girls-gamers LIs are treated as a pool of amorphous spare parts that can be changed at whim of any other part of the audience and not once women opinions on the matter was considered. Oh, and yes, always with that explanation - oh, come on, don't be greedy, sure you can share, you are not losing anything here.
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Post by Melcara on Jun 7, 2017 10:40:10 GMT
I actually agree with you about the retcons and that making Jaal bi instead of adding content to the actual M/M romances is a cheap cop-out, but how were you mistreated as a straight woman? Making Jaal bi isn't making him gay. You aren't losing anything. I though I explained - it's second time when they retconed a straight women LI into bi. Do you remember a single case where gay character was turned into bi? Any case when male-gamers LI was turned bi? Yet, girls-gamers LIs are treated as a pool of amorphous spare parts that can be changed at whim of any other part of the audience and not once women opinions on the matter was considered. Oh, and yes, always with that explanation - oh, come on, don't be greedy, sure you can share, you are not losing anything here. But... Jaal is still an LI for straight women. He just became one for gay/bi men too. That's what I meant by "you're not losing anything". It's not like he isn't into women anymore.
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Post by Melcara on Jun 7, 2017 10:41:51 GMT
No one noticed that Angara are transsexual now? What? The angara are apparently "gender-fluid". Lol.
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