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Post by RageUnderFire on Jun 7, 2017 7:37:26 GMT
Who else thought we needed more options?
why was there no Turian? Hands down the most mentally stable and competent.
No Asari option was also strange. The supposed masters of diplomacy got no candidate for an ambassador position. wtf
did anyone pick Morda to express IDGAF?
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Post by ProbeAway on Jun 7, 2017 10:11:57 GMT
I thought about choosing Morda just to piss off Tann, but I went with the Moshae. I figured that was about as diplomatic as possible.
I think 4 options was enough, TBH. As for Asari, there wasn't really a prominent Asari who was suited to the role. Sarissa is a bit too cold.
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Post by bshep on Jun 7, 2017 10:23:18 GMT
I thought about choosing Morda just to piss off Tann, but I went with the Moshae. I figured that was about as diplomatic as possible. I think 4 options was enough, TBH. As for Asari, there wasn't really a prominent Asari who was suited to the role. Sarissa is a bit too cold. Agree. She was seen as a wise person by her people and that would help keep peace between everyone while appearing neutral.
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Post by sil on Jun 7, 2017 10:25:40 GMT
Moshae makes the most sense, having her more intimately tied to the Andromeda Initiative means that it'll be that bit easier to bring the Angara into a "Citadel'-esque galactic power.
Plus they have manpower and ships, they're needed for future conflicts with the Kett.
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Post by bshep on Jun 7, 2017 10:35:35 GMT
Moshae makes the most sense, having her more intimately tied to the Andromeda Initiative means that it'll be that bit easier to bring the Angara into a "Citadel'-esque galactic power. Plus they have manpower and ships, they're needed for future conflicts with the Kett. Better than apease Tann by choosing the salarian pathfinder or Morda just to make him angry.
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Post by liquidsnake on Jun 7, 2017 12:17:40 GMT
The entire Ambassador choice was a very cool concept, but a tad silly in execution. They are setting up for a Council like back in the Milky Way, but to only have one ambassador for the cluster is silly. At the very least they should have one member to represent the Angara and one member to represent the Andromeda Initiative. The AI races have a history of cooperation among them that goes beyond races, except for the Krogan perhaps. The Angara, however, are a new ally. There should be representatives from each group to start the formation of a Galactic council, which in and of itself is a very long way off considering they have not yet left the very first cluster of the massive galaxy, have no idea what other races are out there they might ally with and DO know that there is a Kett Empire established throughout Andromeda.
Either way, I think one of the most qualified choices was Rialla, the asari ambassador that was in charge of the Milky Way races on Aya. She obviously knows the needs of the Milky Way races to be placed in such an important role to begin with but also will have a deeper understanding of the Angara as a species than current choices like Raeka, Bradley or Morda would.
At the end of the day, the only real choice in my mind among those offered is the Moshae. Heleus is the Angara's cluster, not ours. We already have our own leadership council set up on the Nexus for the Andromeda Initiative and choosing the Moshae, who is already extremely well respected among a majority of Angara, gives their people representation in the fate of their home worlds and cluster.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 12:50:45 GMT
Pathfinder Raeka seems the best choice, since she is a proven leader and a decent person in addition to being a complete badass
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Post by kino on Jun 7, 2017 14:06:53 GMT
There really weren't any Asari or Turian characters introduced in the game who made sense as an Ambassador. The characters of note I can think of were Sarissa or Avitus.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Jun 7, 2017 14:14:36 GMT
There really weren't any Asari or Turian characters introduced in the game who made sense as an Ambassador. The characters of note I can think of were Sarissa or Avitus. Funny Getting kicked off the Nexus/voluntarily leaving gave the Krogies a head start in colonization. As it stands Krogies and Humans are the most successful colonists in Andromeda.
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Post by Sairys on Jun 7, 2017 14:16:00 GMT
I just didn't understand the idea as a whole. Ambassador to go where? My idea of an ambassador is someone who represents their people when they go to another place. So example, Moshae would be Angaran Ambassador to the ....? To the Initiative? Then maybe we'd have an Initiative Ambassador to each of the planets the Angaran hold?
The quest made it seem like we were picking a leader but the word Ambassador just didn't make sense to me. Ambassador to where? Now if they'd asked me to pick a leader for The Helius Cluster, a Chairperson to lead a council of some kind sure. But a single Ambassador to go forth and represent us to ....?
I dunno, I thought the whole thing was just awkward thrown into Ryder's face and the word Ambassador just threw me.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Jun 7, 2017 14:41:15 GMT
The entire Ambassador choice was a very cool concept, but a tad silly in execution. They are setting up for a Council like back in the Milky Way, but to only have one ambassador for the cluster is silly. At the very least they should have one member to represent the Angara and one member to represent the Andromeda Initiative. The AI races have a history of cooperation among them that goes beyond races, except for the Krogan perhaps. The Angara, however, are a new ally. There should be representatives from each group to start the formation of a Galactic council, which in and of itself is a very long way off considering they have not yet left the very first cluster of the massive galaxy, have no idea what other races are out there they might ally with and DO know that there is a Kett Empire established throughout Andromeda. Either way, I think one of the most qualified choices was Rialla, the asari ambassador that was in charge of the Milky Way races on Aya. She obviously knows the needs of the Milky Way races to be placed in such an important role to begin with but also will have a deeper understanding of the Angara as a species than current choices like Raeka, Bradley or Morda would. At the end of the day, the only real choice in my mind among those offered is the Moshae. Heleus is the Angara's cluster, not ours. We already have our own leadership council set up on the Nexus for the Andromeda Initiative and choosing the Moshae, who is already extremely well respected among a majority of Angara, gives their people representation in the fate of their home worlds and cluster. There was also the bad writing. Everyone bitches if you go with Tann's idea yet no one objects at the meeting or makes their own suggestion.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Jun 7, 2017 14:54:32 GMT
Might go with Morda this time around.
This was what I wanted the game to be about. A war to colonize Andromeda natives. She seems the most up for it.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 7, 2017 14:58:58 GMT
I've chosen all of them, but the one I've chosen the most is August Bradley. Good guy.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Jun 7, 2017 15:05:45 GMT
I've chosen all of them, but the one I've chosen the most is August Bradley. Good guy. That's exactly why I don't go with him. He's too honest for a diplomatic position. Also needs more charisma.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Jun 7, 2017 15:08:14 GMT
We needed a Primarch Victus type of Turian to rep his people along with everybody else.
Strong military man with the patience to handle sensitive diplomatic ties.
I was impressed with him in ME3.
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Post by decafhigh on Jun 7, 2017 15:08:50 GMT
I really didn't get why they even did this, aside from trying to somehow make it "feel" like the OT.
In any case no character they introduced throughout the game I thought was Ambassador material. Might as well just draw a name out of a hat.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Jun 7, 2017 15:09:40 GMT
Raeka wouldn't be bad if I didn't always go with the Krogie scouts.
She's a shrewd manipulator. It's apart of the reason why I save scouts instead.
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Post by turianlannister on Jun 7, 2017 20:56:08 GMT
I heard if you pick Morda she doesn't say anything about it and just continues growling if you try to talk to her
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 14:23:53 GMT
I'd have preferred the Turian pathfinder but since I wasn't given the option I picked Raeka. Ultimately I fight for the Milky Way interest and will keep doing that so no way I'll give that position to the Moshae. If that brings tensions with the angara so be it. The passive aggressive behaviour of her just proved my point.
Bradley is a good man but he made it clear that he is doing this job temporarily so I prefer the cold rationality and pragmatism of the salarians to speak for us. The Krogan are not cut for poltics.
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Post by varicite on Jun 8, 2017 14:38:41 GMT
I choose Kesh every single time.
She deserves a mantle more than literally any other of the current Nexus leadership.
Even moreso if you have read the book.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Jun 8, 2017 15:20:24 GMT
I'd have preferred the Turian pathfinder but since I wasn't given the option I picked Raeka. Ultimately I fight for the Milky Way interest and will keep doing that so no way I'll give that position to the Moshae. If that brings tensions with the angara so be it. The passive aggressive behaviour of her just proved my point. Bradley is a good man but he made it clear that he is doing this job temporarily so I prefer the cold rationality and pragmatism of the salarians to speak for us. The Krogan are not cut for poltics.who needs politics when you can trigger the Initiative Rebellions to rape & pillage every Angara in site and do what the silly Kett couldn't conquer Heleus
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Post by congokong on Jun 8, 2017 18:02:35 GMT
Tann's BS reason for you not being an option is enough to be annoyed by the whole thing, and made me even less inclined to pick the salarian pathfinder. Overlooking emotional bias, Raeka seems like a good option. She has actual political experience and "claims" to not let Tann manipulate her, unlike Hayjer. Yet she also didn't want to be a dalatrass, so...
Bradley feels like an Anderson pick. He purposely avoids politics; not ambassador material. The Moshae isn't a politician, but she is smart and respected. Picking her wouldn't help the Initiative much; especially if you've already subjued the roekarr.
If the roekarr threat ends, the only choice that gives a true benefit for the AI is Morda (lol). It's not that she'd be a good ambassador. She might possibly be the worst at the job. It's rather the perks of picking her; that she'd solidify the krogan's place in the Initiative, as they're one of the least stable elements. While giving the drive core will be enough for them to return to the fold, there is something conclusive about finally giving the krogan what they wanted during the uprising: a voice in politics. It would end any remaining dissent over that deal with Spender.
Some people scoff at Morda because "she's crazy and would attack the Nexus!" From what I gather, she's a very capable ruler who created a colony on a near-uninhabitable planet. Wasn't the bomb threat a lie created by Strux, who was also telling her the Nexus was planning to attack New Tuchanka? That explains her initial hostility. Strux was trying to depict her as this insane warmonger which I thought was largely fabricated for his own ends.
...And I still don't even understand what this ambassador would actually do. All the candidates have other jobs they should be doing.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Jun 8, 2017 18:07:05 GMT
Tann's BS reason for you not being an option is enough to be annoyed by the whole thing, and made me even less inclined to pick the salarian pathfinder. Overlooking emotional bias, Raeka seems like a good option. She has actual political experience and "claims" to not let Tann manipulate her, unlike Hayjer. Yet she also didn't want to be a dalatrass, so... Bradley feels like an Anderson pick. He purposely avoids politics; not ambassador material. The Moshae isn't a politician, but she is smart and respected. Picking her wouldn't help the Initiative much; especially if you've already subjued the roekarr. If the roekarr threat ends, the only choice that gives a true benefit for the AI is Morda (lol). It's not that she'd be a good ambassador. She might possibly be the worst at the job. It's rather the perks of picking her; that she'd solidify the krogan's place in the Initiative, as they're one of the least stable elements. While giving the drive core will be enough for them to return to the fold, there is something conclusive about finally giving the krogan what they wanted during the uprising: a voice in politics. It would end any remaining dissent over that deal with Spender. Some people scoff at Morda because "she's crazy and would attack the Nexus!" From what I gather, she's a very capable ruler who created a colony on a near-uninhabitable planet. Wasn't the bomb threat a lie created by Strux, who was also telling her the Nexus was planning to attack New Tuchanka? That explains her initial hostility. Strux was trying to depict her as this insane warmonger which I thought was largely fabricated for his own ends. ...And I still don't even understand what this ambassador would actually do. All the candidates have other jobs they should be doing. Morda Trump ftw!
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Post by RageUnderFire on Jun 8, 2017 19:57:48 GMT
Sara should have been an option.
She barely does shit anyways.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 7:42:28 GMT
I'd have preferred the Turian pathfinder but since I wasn't given the option I picked Raeka. Ultimately I fight for the Milky Way interest and will keep doing that so no way I'll give that position to the Moshae. If that brings tensions with the angara so be it. The passive aggressive behaviour of her just proved my point. Bradley is a good man but he made it clear that he is doing this job temporarily so I prefer the cold rationality and pragmatism of the salarians to speak for us. The Krogan are not cut for poltics.who needs politics when you can trigger the Initiative Rebellions to rape & pillage every Angara in site and do what the silly Kett couldn't conquer Heleus Ahh I wish we had this option but sadly it's a BW game. I can't stand the Angara and wish could terminate each one of them. The only reason I kept Sloane (despite not liking her one bit) in power is so just the angaran don't get more power in Kadara. I'm still mad I couldn't tell to the exiles that killed those Angarans in Kadara for their filtration water tech. "Those greedy bastards deserve it". BW is becoming worse and worse at roleplaying.
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