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Post by zipzap2000 on Jun 8, 2017 2:17:23 GMT
Many of us were mistaken. We wrongly believed MEA was inquisition in space....As it turns out Inquisitions team as well as the new IP were lifting ideas from MEA and using them in their own games. (Kotaku article.)
Astrariums = Remnant vaults.
Corypheus = Archon.
These are two good examples of similar themes crossing over into Mass Effect. But how much of this was taken by the DA team? How much content what eventually wound up in DA was originally created by the Mass Effect team? And how much of Andromeda now makes up the new IP?
This game might well have been picked apart by internal rivalries with even allegations of sabotage and theft levelled in the kotaku article.
Sabotage makes sense to me. Its actually something you'd dismiss off the bat until you look closer and ask: What the hell were they thinking with that one?
Mass Effect may have been sacrificed to ensure the success of the new IP and ensure DA couldn't fail. The failure of DA would have meant no new IP, no Mass Effect, no DA, no BioWare.
Mass Effect in Thedas was made to stave off the destruction of the company altogether. Andromeda was simply the poor chump they were willing to feed to the lions in order to satisfy the crowds of the internet colloseum.
Eaten alive its eviscerated corpse now lies surrounded by its most devoted fans.
Who pray for miracles.
My apologies to Mac Walters, it takes real skill to steer train wreck off a cliff and not lose your job in the process.
Hella ballsy, too.
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Post by pheabus2005 on Jun 8, 2017 3:11:29 GMT
Last time I checked, Andromeda grass is identical to the one we saw in Thedas, just with different color scheme.
*Theory confirmed.*
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Post by colfoley on Jun 8, 2017 3:58:55 GMT
Astrariums are remnant vaults...how?
Also Cory is no Archon and vice versa.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 8, 2017 4:01:47 GMT
No ryncol? Imposter confirmed.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Jun 8, 2017 4:11:43 GMT
Astrariums are remnant vaults...how? Also Cory is no Archon and vice versa. Solve the puzzle, light the beam. Do it three times and three beams open a door with something inside. Now, did I just decribe Astrariums or vaults?
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Post by cobalt72 on Jun 8, 2017 4:24:46 GMT
Puzzles in RPGs? You don't say
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Post by colfoley on Jun 8, 2017 5:15:17 GMT
Astrariums are remnant vaults...how? Also Cory is no Archon and vice versa. Solve the puzzle, light the beam. Do it three times and three beams open a door with something inside. Now, did I just decribe Astrariums or vaults? vaults.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Jun 8, 2017 5:16:00 GMT
Solve the puzzle, light the beam. Do it three times and three beams open a door with something inside. Now, did I just decribe Astrariums or vaults? vaults. Astrariums. I win.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 8, 2017 11:22:55 GMT
ZipZap, I said the same thing a few months back. They incorporated so much of the same stuff from Inquisition and yet didn't fix the issues in Andromeda. You're absolutely right. However, using the same elements isn't a bad thing. It's when you use the same elements and screw it up that just makes the studio look incompetent. That's what pisses me off. It's like Montreal learned nothing from Inquisition's mistakes. That's not a condemnation on Montreal. That's a condemnation of whoever was supposed to help from Edmonton. It's a condemnation of whoever was supposed to rein in the "bro-culture" workplace at Montreal and Austin. It's a condemnation against the knuckleheads who thought it was better to talk "inclusion" about BioWare instead of focusing on their game. Derp. I feel bad for the hourly workers, the contractual guys that will never be hired on full-time and the die-hard franchise lovers stuck among sycophants that don't add to the product.
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Post by goishen on Jun 8, 2017 11:52:09 GMT
This game just feels like it's been stuck in the muck with SW:TOR expansions for the writing and DAI for the rest of it. Where it has a big open world but nothing to do. A whole bunch'a busy tasks, but nothing that really impacts the character, or rather SAM.
I dunno. If Frostbite is truly the problem, then go back to Unreal Engine. Fuck, go back to Unreal Engine 3, if 4 gives you as many problems as Frostbite does.
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Post by FeralEwok on Jun 8, 2017 12:02:27 GMT
I liked it better when you were a drunk krogan and kept conspiracies mostly in-game/universe.
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Post by mfr001 on Jun 8, 2017 12:16:35 GMT
Sudoku-like puzzles =/= semi-Eulerian trails.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 8, 2017 13:29:08 GMT
This game just feels like it's been stuck in the muck with SW:TOR expansions for the writing and DAI for the rest of it. Where it has a big open world but nothing to do. A whole bunch'a busy tasks, but nothing that really impacts the character, or rather SAM. I dunno. If Frostbite is truly the problem, then go back to Unreal Engine. Fuck, go back to Unreal Engine 3, if 4 gives you as many problems as Frostbite does. Why pay for third-party software and support when you have DICE? I agree with you. Given the choice, I would've stayed with Unreal, but from a corporation's perspective: it's genius. You have a proprietary engine known for its beautiful graphics but unfortunately, the think tank that uses the software, struggles mightily to turn a 3rd-person shooter into an RPG game. Don't be surprised if DICE and BioWare come out with some Battlefront game using Mass Effect assets.
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Post by xassantex on Jun 8, 2017 14:54:43 GMT
Ah! but! in MEA, you can buy decryption keys and bypass the stupid pseudokus. how many astrariums did i just ignore because i couldn't be bothered to draw a pretty ship or whatever.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 8, 2017 14:59:52 GMT
Ah! but! in MEA, you can buy decryption keys and bypass the stupid pseudokus. how many astrariums did i just ignore because i couldn't be bothered to draw a pretty ship or whatever. The music that played was kinda relaxing, since it's basically a long spacy version of I Am The One's intro.
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Post by xassantex on Jun 8, 2017 15:17:30 GMT
Ah! but! in MEA, you can buy decryption keys and bypass the stupid pseudokus. how many astrariums did i just ignore because i couldn't be bothered to draw a pretty ship or whatever. The music that played was kinda relaxing, since it's basically a long spacy version of I Am The One's intro. i only vaguely remember since i never really bothered with Astrariums. ( not being a completionist).
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Post by zipzap2000 on Jun 9, 2017 0:12:07 GMT
I liked it better when you were a drunk krogan and kept conspiracies mostly in-game/universe. *Pats you on the head*
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