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Post by derrame on Jun 9, 2017 13:51:28 GMT
hi there apex
nova is a biotic power like shockwave or throw, it should detnate primed targets,
dont you think?
that explosion could be really cool
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Post by guanxi on Jun 9, 2017 13:54:19 GMT
I wish we had a choice between primer or detonator at level 6.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jun 9, 2017 13:54:57 GMT
It does seem that way, but I assume that they made the choice not to for balance reasons.
What I find really strange are the powers that are definitely detonators in their main description, but that have different abilities depending on the character. Some of the powers are re-designed as non-detonators that require a high rank evolution to actually detonate combos as intended.
Not sure I understand the balance reasoning there, but I'm still early.
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Post by Kazu on Jun 9, 2017 13:56:38 GMT
Why?
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Post by gethadept on Jun 9, 2017 14:04:37 GMT
Nova is already very powerful biotic power though. Considering its nature of hitting multiple enemies, making it detonator might be too powerful.
Only fix I want for Nova is to make it stronger than dog bite. Adhi can cancel Nova animation and cause death.
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Post by poultrymancer on Jun 9, 2017 15:22:30 GMT
Nova as a detonator would make the Gladiator a lower-effort character than even those with Stealth Grid.
How is a "win" button fun?
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Post by guanxi on Jun 9, 2017 15:35:16 GMT
Nova as a detonator would make the Gladiator a lower-effort character than even those with Stealth Grid. How is a "win" button fun? No more so than the AA with shield powered lance. |
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Post by Zerfidius on Jun 9, 2017 15:36:31 GMT
It surprises me that Nova isn't a detonator, but mostly because I was used to its ME3 characteristics.
I would like a few of its immunity frames back from patch 1.03, but otherwise I'm cool with it as a knockdown primer for my Charges.
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Post by tatann on Jun 9, 2017 15:58:32 GMT
Nova as a detonator would make the Gladiator a lower-effort character than even those with Stealth Grid. How is a "win" button fun? Warframe used to have a win button on most characters, and it was fun   ( <= this is supposed to be a space ninja) |
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Post by kaileena_sands on Jun 9, 2017 16:05:20 GMT
It surprises me that Nova isn't a detonator, but mostly because I was used to its ME3 characteristics. I would like a few of its immunity frames back from patch 1.03, but otherwise I'm cool with it as a knockdown primer for my Charges. Same here, when I started MEA SP for the first time I was confused for a long time it didn't detonate stuff.  Didn't bother to read, just went on my instinct it should be detonating. I miss it but then again, do we really need the perpetually dying Novaguards to be back in MEA (as Nova used to always cost shields)? They did change lots of small stuff like this sneakily. Another great thing in ME3 that I'd like to see back is that when I point my gun to an enemy and shoot him in the face, I get a headshot. Really missing that feature.  |
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Post by poultrymancer on Jun 9, 2017 16:17:56 GMT
Nova as a detonator would make the Gladiator a lower-effort character than even those with Stealth Grid. How is a "win" button fun? No more so than the AA with shield powered lance. Apples and oranges, or rather apples and orange-painted arc grenades, but actually a somewhat useful comparison to further make my point. Detonating Nova would be essentially Lance with a range-limited 360-degree AOE. Even if a hypothetical detonation evo required the shield drain effect, with Draining Field on Annihilation giving you back 30% shields for every nearby kill only syncs or wild incompetence could ever get you killed. And that's not even considering the new Rage mechanics. |
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Post by Uchimura on Jun 9, 2017 16:20:56 GMT
Geth Juggernaut was fun. Prettymuch slow-moving god mode.
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Post by poultrymancer on Jun 9, 2017 16:31:24 GMT
Geth Juggernaut was fun. Prettymuch slow-moving god mode. A BSNer admitting to liking the Jugg? That's a bold move, Cotton. |
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Post by killabkilledb on Jun 9, 2017 16:59:28 GMT
Kroglad would be stupid OP...
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Post by Zerfidius on Jun 9, 2017 17:02:08 GMT
do we really need the perpetually dying Novaguards to be back in MEA (as Nova used to always cost shields)? ... Except Novaguards could be invincible if you knew how to cancel Nova in ME3. You live inside Nova's I-frames by interrupting it with a roll or melee. Nothing gets through except the occasional stagger and you since you never finish the animation you never lose your barrier. Achire made some solo videos that used the tactic extensively. And maybe Deerber too. |
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Post by kaileena_sands on Jun 9, 2017 17:13:46 GMT
do we really need the perpetually dying Novaguards to be back in MEA (as Nova used to always cost shields)? ... Except Novaguards could be invincible if you knew how to cancel Nova in ME3. You live inside Nova's I-frames by interrupting it with a roll or melee. Nothing gets through except the occasional stagger and you since you never finish the animation you never lose your barrier. Achire made some solo videos that used the tactic extensively. And maybe Deerber too. Tell me honestly, did you see Nova canceling being used properly on a regular basis in pugs? Because I surely did not. RNG, bring better pugs, these are broken! |
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jun 9, 2017 17:29:43 GMT
Nova as a detonator would make the Gladiator a lower-effort character than even those with Stealth Grid. How is a "win" button fun? No more so than the AA with shield powered lance. My assumption is that the OP part would be combining it with radius and shield restoration in Annihilation, since they would theoretically allow you to nearly indefinitely fire off shield restoring explosions on a deployment timer. At least, that's the assumption I'm operating under at level 12 building the Asari Adept, because I would very much like it work that way, please. |
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jun 9, 2017 17:32:13 GMT
Geth Juggernaut was fun. Prettymuch slow-moving god mode. A BSNer admitting to liking the Jugg? That's a bold move, Cotton. Oh, we secretly took over when no one was looking. Just like the Geth. >8) |
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Post by palker4 on Jun 9, 2017 19:09:11 GMT
hi there apex nova is a biotic power like shockwave or throw, it should detnate primed targets, dont you think? that explosion could be really cool No fun allowed here i am afraid |
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Post by hanskey on Jun 9, 2017 19:26:58 GMT
YOU SHALL SUFFER
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jun 9, 2017 21:59:40 GMT
That's a bold move, Cotton. Do I have to drink my own urine? No. But it's sterile, and I like the taste! |
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Post by SalMasRac on Jun 9, 2017 23:38:13 GMT
That's a bold move, Cotton. Do I have to drink my own urine? No. But it's sterile, and I like the taste! |
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Post by pantherdane on Jun 9, 2017 23:55:05 GMT
Geth Juggernaut was fun. Prettymuch slow-moving god mode. I loved it too. Loved tanking on Platinum, taking all of the Banshee aggro while everyone else did their thing. Having melee restore shields made it the greatest tank. |
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Post by crashsuit on Jun 10, 2017 1:00:42 GMT
Geth Juggernaut was fun. Prettymuch slow-moving god mode. A BSNer admitting to liking the Jugg? That's a bold move, Cotton. It's a good kit if you avoid melee and spam Siege Pulse like the good RNGesus intended. Edit: If anyone uses the melee build, you're bad and you should feel bad. |
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jun 10, 2017 1:11:15 GMT
Not only did I eschew melee almost entirely, I only put three points in fitness.
It was all about the siege pules, hex shield (combo damage, not size) offensive Geth Turret and most importantly - Geth Spitfire. Which I had at a good level, too.
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Didn't bother to read, just went on my instinct it should be detonating. 
