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Post by askandlearn on Jun 13, 2017 14:25:26 GMT

Hey guys,

I would like to know how Hold the line works.

It seems there are two options.

1st option: One has 1000 HP and gets hits by a 1000 damage skill and die. Which means it only works when you first get hit by a 700 damage skill in order to turn "hold the line" on.

or

2nd option: One has 1000 HP and gets hit by a 1000 damage skill. First 700 damage it dealt and for the last 30%, the 300 remaining damage is lowered by 200 damage reduciton, therefore by 66%. In this scenario you survive.

Which one is it? Thx in advance.

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Post by LogicGunn on Jun 13, 2017 14:44:18 GMT

Jun 13, 2017 14:31:37 GMT Kroitz said:

That was a close one ...

Did you have flashbacks? I did. It wasn't pretty.

To answer OP's question, I think it kicks in only when you get hit and your health is already below the threshold. I didn't find it very effective and I use cover like a pro, so I always choose In The Trenches instead.

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Hold the line Jun 13, 2017 15:36:23 GMT

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Post by kino on Jun 13, 2017 15:36:23 GMT

I believe it works like your first option. So, for example, if you're in the line of fire of a Destroyers turrets it'll kick in when you're health is at 30%, but if you were to get hit by the Destroyers cannon it'll take you past that health gate to 0. At least that was my experience with combat fitness on Insanity. I wound up respeccing for In the Trenches because, well, I'm not playing a Krogan. If I'd been playing a character with a shite ton of health I'd go with Hold the Line.

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Hold the line Jun 13, 2017 18:12:33 GMT

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Post by lexxxich on Jun 13, 2017 18:12:33 GMT

It probably has a much better use if you also have emergency shields refill Barrier evo. So something (not explosion) takes you to the healthgate, you get a full shield refill and 200 DR, and you can live long enough to kill that pesky bastard who took you to healthgate, or run away if there are too many pesky bastards.

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Post by clips7 on Jun 14, 2017 9:12:19 GMT

"Hold the line" for me means holding the position with a capable group at extraction (ME3 MP).....frantically defending the position amid Scion pulse cannons, Praetorian lasers, Phantoms, Dragoons, Banshees,....etc and surviving to fight another day.... :devil:

......sorry not into Andromeda's MP....

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Post by ProbeAway on Jun 14, 2017 9:23:09 GMT

Jun 14, 2017 9:12:42 GMT clips7 said:

"Hold the line" for me means holding the position with a capable group at extraction (ME3 MP).....frantically defending the position amid Scion pulse cannons, Praetorian lasers, Phantoms, Dragoons, Banshees,....etc and surviving to fight another day.... :devil:

......sorry not into Andromeda's MP....

Agggh double post...can a mod delete this one?...thanks.....

I think there's a delete option. There is on the mobile version, anyway.

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Post by clips7 on Jun 15, 2017 2:25:38 GMT

Jun 14, 2017 9:23:09 GMT ProbeAway said:

Jun 14, 2017 9:12:42 GMT clips7 said:

"Hold the line" for me means holding the position with a capable group at extraction (ME3 MP).....frantically defending the position amid Scion pulse cannons, Praetorian lasers, Phantoms, Dragoons, Banshees,....etc and surviving to fight another day.... :devil:

......sorry not into Andromeda's MP....

Agggh double post...can a mod delete this one?...thanks.....

I think there's a delete option. There is on the mobile version, anyway.

Thanks...i didn't know that...i found it!...

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Hold the line Jul 9, 2017 20:18:23 GMT

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Post by House Targaryen on Jul 9, 2017 20:18:23 GMT

Hold the door. :whistle:

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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Jul 10, 2017 6:05:30 GMT

wait, what?

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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jul 10, 2017 6:06:56 GMT

Jul 9, 2017 20:18:23 GMT House Targaryen said:

Hold the door. :whistle:

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Jun 13, 2017 14:25:26 GMT askandlearn said:

Hey guys,

I would like to know how Hold the line works.

It seems there are two options.

1st option: One has 1000 HP and gets hits by a 1000 damage skill and die. Which means it only works when you first get hit by a 700 damage skill in order to turn "hold the line" on.

or

2nd option: One has 1000 HP and gets hit by a 1000 damage skill. First 700 damage it dealt and for the last 30%, the 300 remaining damage is lowered by 200 damage reduciton, therefore by 66%. In this scenario you survive.

Which one is it? Thx in advance.

Oh.
Wait you mean...
Sorry.

The second option would be closer.
300 though not 200.
If this is to what you refer:
masseffectandromeda.gamepedia.com/Combat_Fitness

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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jul 10, 2017 6:09:31 GMT

Jul 10, 2017 6:05:30 GMT The Biotic Trebuchet said:

wait, what?

Line?
Just noticed...why he pointing to the sky? :huh:

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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 10, 2017 6:11:52 GMT

Jul 10, 2017 6:05:30 GMT The Biotic Trebuchet said:

wait, what?

I was hoping he would become a companion in the original trilogy. He represents the Salarians well.

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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Jul 10, 2017 6:21:31 GMT

Jul 10, 2017 6:09:31 GMT Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger said:

Jul 10, 2017 6:05:30 GMT The Biotic Trebuchet said:

wait, what?

Line?
Just noticed...why he pointing to the sky? :huh:

Because he's a Salarian.

Jul 10, 2017 6:11:52 GMT Cyan_Griffonclaw said:

Jul 10, 2017 6:05:30 GMT The Biotic Trebuchet said:

wait, what?

I was hoping he would become a companion in the original trilogy. He represents the Salarians well.

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Hold the line Jul 10, 2017 16:51:28 GMT

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Post by askandlearn on Jul 10, 2017 16:51:28 GMT

Hey guys,

my two main questions seem not to have been answered yet.

1. One has 1000 HP and gets hit by a 1000 damage skill. First 700 damage it dealt and for the last 30%, the 300 remaining damage is lowered by 200 damage reduction, therefore by 66%. In this scenario you survive.

2. Does hold the line proc also on exactly 30% hp, or must be under like 29%?

thx in advance

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Hold the line Jul 11, 2017 3:43:36 GMT

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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on Jul 11, 2017 3:43:36 GMT

The second one. Here is the description for it:

Hold the line: Dramatically increases Damage resistance when below 30% health.
Low Health Damage Resistance: 200

So, it kinda subtracts from before you are hit, not after. As in, you won't die if you get attacked by someone with an ATK power of 1000 because of it.

And besides, who has a 1000 ATK power? OP got me there.

For people who are clueless, I just found out OP is talking about the Combat Fitness Skill rank 6 called "Hold the line".

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Hold the line Jul 12, 2017 11:05:22 GMT

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Post by jaegerbane on Jul 12, 2017 11:05:22 GMT

Jul 11, 2017 22:06:49 GMT askandlearn said:

But its still not clear for me if "hold the line" procs already on 30% HP or needs to be lower than that. Anyone knows?

Given you've asked it three(?) times, odds are that the answer is no. Presumably you'll have to test it for yourself.

Reading the description literally I would have assumed it means less than 30%, as it specifically mentions below 30%.

Tbh both skill ranks are a bit naff anyway, if you simply must put the points in Combat Fitness then I'd go with In The Trenches, as it's more practical.

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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jul 12, 2017 14:32:37 GMT

Jul 12, 2017 11:05:22 GMT jaegerbane said:

Jul 11, 2017 22:06:49 GMT askandlearn said:

But its still not clear for me if "hold the line" procs already on 30% HP or needs to be lower than that. Anyone knows?

Given you've asked it three(?) times, odds are that the answer is no. Presumably you'll have to test it for yourself.

Reading the description literally I would have assumed it means less than 30%, as it specifically mentions below 30%.

Tbh both skill ranks are a bit naff anyway, if you simply must put the points in Combat Fitness then I'd go with In The Trenches, as it's more practical.

The only other option is to record game play.
Then review it at 100 times slower speed.

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