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Post by Sanunes on Jun 14, 2017 19:43:12 GMT
That's exactly what I had thought and posted a while back. It's really the only way to reset everything to baseline. For synthesis, I don't even think they would have to set it very far in the future. We hear of rejection of transplants so it's not without a basis in reality. Even Drack brings up his own issues with rejection of implants in MEA. They could do a trilogy and then go right back to milky way, but with only one cluster explored, it might be interesting to see what else is in andromeda. How is this better than using a canon ending? If anything, it's less respectful of the choices we made with our own Shepards. I think it would depend on the ending you picked. I think no matter which way they go its going to be problematic if they continue with the Milky Way. If you picked Destruction and that is the way BioWare goes then its not a big deal, but if BioWare goes Synthesis because that tells the story better for them I think plenty of people would feel disrespected because it wasn't their choice. Now if they go for the collapsible route then people will feel their choices really didn't matter either for it all works out to be the same thing and of course I can't see a real way for BioWare to implement everyone's choice because then they would be just ignoring it as well and based on reactions from Mass Effect 3 people would want drastically different options for their choices and not just simple acknowledgement of them. To me that is why going to Andromeda was the better choice because frankly staying in the Milky Way I think would have caused the game to have a reaction like Andromeda no matter how good the game really was compared to what people think of Andromeda. |
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 14, 2017 19:53:14 GMT
How is this better than using a canon ending? If anything, it's less respectful of the choices we made with our own Shepards. I think it would depend on the ending you picked. I think no matter which way they go its going to be problematic if they continue with the Milky Way. If you picked Destruction and that is the way BioWare goes then its not a big deal, but if BioWare goes Synthesis because that tells the story better for them I think plenty of people would feel disrespected because it wasn't their choice. Now if they go for the collapsible route then people will feel their choices really didn't matter either for it all works out to be the same thing and of course I can't see a real way for BioWare to implement everyone's choice because then they would be just ignoring it as well and based on reactions from Mass Effect 3 people would want drastically different options for their choices and not just simple acknowledgement of them. To me that is why going to Andromeda was the better choice because frankly staying in the Milky Way I think would have caused the game to have a reaction like Andromeda no matter how good the game really was compared to what people think of Andromeda. While I don't personally have a problem with the endings (post EC) they boxed themselves into a corner. It doesn't matter how far into the future the game is they'd literally have to make three (four if you count refuse) versions of the game. To do any ME game back in the MW they have two options. Canonize an ending (not likely as it's a very bad idea) or a prequel game. Maybe set during the Prothean Empire. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 19:57:56 GMT
I think it would depend on the ending you picked. I think no matter which way they go its going to be problematic if they continue with the Milky Way. If you picked Destruction and that is the way BioWare goes then its not a big deal, but if BioWare goes Synthesis because that tells the story better for them I think plenty of people would feel disrespected because it wasn't their choice. Now if they go for the collapsible route then people will feel their choices really didn't matter either for it all works out to be the same thing and of course I can't see a real way for BioWare to implement everyone's choice because then they would be just ignoring it as well and based on reactions from Mass Effect 3 people would want drastically different options for their choices and not just simple acknowledgement of them. To me that is why going to Andromeda was the better choice because frankly staying in the Milky Way I think would have caused the game to have a reaction like Andromeda no matter how good the game really was compared to what people think of Andromeda. While I don't personally have a problem with the endings (post EC) they boxed themselves into a corner. It doesn't matter how far into the future the game is they'd literally have to make three (four if you count refuse) versions of the game. To do any ME game back in the MW they have two options. Canonize an ending (not likely as it's a very bad idea) or a prequel game. Maybe set during the Prothean Empire. You can tell they didn't hint at a canon one either. If you find all the memory triggers, Alec's words about the Reapers are left for any of the choices to have happened by decision of the player. |
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Post by themikefest on Jun 14, 2017 20:17:38 GMT
You can tell they didn't hint at a canon one either. If you find all the memory triggers, Alec's words about the Reapers are left for any of the choices to have happened by decision of the player. Liara mentions they're trying to build a weapon to turn the tide. The word weapon I would not relate to the green or blue, but to red. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 20:21:13 GMT
You can tell they didn't hint at a canon one either. If you find all the memory triggers, Alec's words about the Reapers are left for any of the choices to have happened by decision of the player. Liara mentions they're trying to build a weapon to turn the tide. The word weapon I would not relate to the green or blue, but to red. Yeah but remember we all thought it was a weapon until it was completed. Then it became a big wtf lol |
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Post by themikefest on Jun 14, 2017 20:33:42 GMT
Yeah but remember we all thought it was a weapon until it was completed. Then it became a big wtf lol For you and I and all the other players, yes, but for Alec and his son/daughter don't know what it became. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 20:37:09 GMT
Yeah but remember we all thought it was a weapon until it was completed. Then it became a big wtf lol For you and I and all the other players, yes, but for Alec and his son/daughter don't know what it became. That's why we can leave it up to our own choice. Alec knows something went down, but he never says if it was destruction, friendly Reapers or synthetic beings. All we know is many aliens have next of kin in the MW, so Refuse did not happen. |
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Post by alanc9 on Jun 14, 2017 20:43:23 GMT
Liara mentions they're trying to build a weapon to turn the tide. The word weapon I would not relate to the green or blue, but to red. Yeah but remember we all thought it was a weapon until it was completed. Then it became a big wtf lol Did we think that? I thought it was pretty obvious that the Crucible was going to do something unexpected. Bio certainly spent plenty of time foreshadowing that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 20:46:07 GMT
Yeah but remember we all thought it was a weapon until it was completed. Then it became a big wtf lol Did we think that? I thought it was pretty obvious that the Crucible was going to do something unexpected. Bio certainly spent plenty of time foreshadowing that. Oh yeah but I doubt anyone thought of a child that gave you 3 choices. Get rid of the child, let us choose the MW's fate and fine, but the child thing was just... wtf. They also dropped the dark energy story and how the Reapers were not really bad. |
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Post by alanc9 on Jun 14, 2017 20:55:49 GMT
I think it would depend on the ending you picked. I think no matter which way they go its going to be problematic if they continue with the Milky Way. If you picked Destruction and that is the way BioWare goes then its not a big deal, but if BioWare goes Synthesis because that tells the story better for them I think plenty of people would feel disrespected because it wasn't their choice. Now if they go for the collapsible route then people will feel their choices really didn't matter either for it all works out to be the same thing and of course I can't see a real way for BioWare to implement everyone's choice because then they would be just ignoring it as well and based on reactions from Mass Effect 3 people would want drastically different options for their choices and not just simple acknowledgement of them. To me that is why going to Andromeda was the better choice because frankly staying in the Milky Way I think would have caused the game to have a reaction like Andromeda no matter how good the game really was compared to what people think of Andromeda. While I don't personally have a problem with the endings (post EC) they boxed themselves into a corner. It doesn't matter how far into the future the game is they'd literally have to make three (four if you count refuse) versions of the game. To do any ME game back in the MW they have two options. Canonize an ending (not likely as it's a very bad idea) or a prequel game. Maybe set during the Prothean Empire. Didn't that ship sail way before the endings, guys? I don't see how the three possible Rannoch outcomes can all plausibly go to the same place. Tuchanka could maybe work, since the genophage could be cured, modified, or even reinstated at some later date. (Mordin's EC slide actually implies this.) |
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Post by thedarkprince on Jun 15, 2017 2:29:39 GMT
Andromeda was basically a reboot. And it failed and pretty much killed off the franchise.
Who knows, maybe 5-10 years from now they will try to revive the series again and we get a full on reboot. But doesn't sound like that will happen anytime soon.
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Post by ENGINEER_H4RR7 on Jun 15, 2017 2:34:09 GMT
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Post by clips7 on Jun 15, 2017 2:48:58 GMT
Did we think that? I thought it was pretty obvious that the Crucible was going to do something unexpected. Bio certainly spent plenty of time foreshadowing that. Oh yeah but I doubt anyone thought of a child that gave you 3 choices. Get rid of the child, let us choose the MW's fate and fine, but the child thing was just... wtf. They also dropped the dark energy story and how the Reapers were not really bad. I do think that there is a story to be told regarding dark energy. That could possibly be a starting point to give Andromeda a more darker tone. With the uincertainty of dark matter/energy, it can be framed as some sort of galaxy wide threat to the galaxy in some matter. Maybe they can somehow make it work in Andromeda or have the cast travel back to the MW and create some type of dilemma and craft a darker story around that theme... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2017 2:56:04 GMT
Oh yeah but I doubt anyone thought of a child that gave you 3 choices. Get rid of the child, let us choose the MW's fate and fine, but the child thing was just... wtf. They also dropped the dark energy story and how the Reapers were not really bad. I do think that there is a story to be told regarding dark energy. That could possibly be a starting point to give Andromeda a more darker tone. With the uincertainty of dark matter/energy, it can be framed as some sort of galaxy wide threat to the galaxy in some matter. Maybe they can somehow make it work in Andromeda or have the cast travel back to the MW and create some type of dilemma and craft a darker story around that theme... We have an idea of it with the Scourge it seems. They could work with that. The Benefactor could also be linked to the original story idea for it. |
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Post by duckley on Jun 15, 2017 3:20:00 GMT
I like MEA ...and would love to see more of the world of Andromeda
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 15, 2017 12:57:17 GMT
I do think that there is a story to be told regarding dark energy. That could possibly be a starting point to give Andromeda a more darker tone. With the uincertainty of dark matter/energy, it can be framed as some sort of galaxy wide threat to the galaxy in some matter. Maybe they can somehow make it work in Andromeda or have the cast travel back to the MW and create some type of dilemma and craft a darker story around that theme... We have an idea of it with the Scourge it seems. They could work with that. The Benefactor could also be linked to the original story idea for it. You know I was thinking about who that could be and what if it's Addison? Think about it, if you poured nearly unlimited resources into a project to have it fall apart like that. Also her reaction about Alec's death. It kinda makes sense if she is the benefactor. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2017 12:59:15 GMT
We have an idea of it with the Scourge it seems. They could work with that. The Benefactor could also be linked to the original story idea for it. You know I was thinking about who that could be and what if it's Addison? Think about it, if you poured nearly unlimited resources into a project to have it fall apart like that. Also her reaction about Alec's death. It kinda makes sense if she is the benefactor. I wondered if it was someone we'd least expect like her. Many would not see that coming. |
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Post by bloodmagereaver on Jun 16, 2017 3:40:48 GMT
Well... Well... Sight, I am talking about putting together the entire trilogy into a single game called "Mass Effect" that retolds the story of Shepard with slight modifications and new gameplay features. I can't believe I forgot to tell that part. Ah...shit, that'd be a weird game and no one would be happy with the outcome. That's a lot of lore, DLC and main stories to cram into one game, even if it were made on a 100+ hour play through scale and it would still be expensive to have to recreate all those assets. I mean, it's worth it to dream, I suppose, but I certainly wouldn't hold on to hope about it. Give it until the 25th anniversary of ME1 and they'll probably remaster the trilogy to get a hold of that nostalgia money. Andromeda was launched 5 years after ME3 and the salt from it still burned the spin-off. However, MEA did help take the heat away from the Milky Way so that any game set on it doesn't feel like a cop out of ME3's ending. Take Halo for example. After beating up the Flood in 3, they went and retconned the entire lore to create the Forerunner trilogy and because they f***ed up with yandere Catalyst Cortana now they brought back the Flood because people forgot them just enough not to feel forced. In my opinion a reboot reimagining the OT into a single game will be very well received if it was launched around 2021 to coincide with the 15th anniversary of ME1. Such date would also fit BioWare's release schedule since their next big action RPG title will be DA4 in 2018 or 2019. If a Mass Effect reboot takes place in 2021 and is well received, then we might get MEA2 in 2023. |
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That's ridiculous. Why would they go back to the MW and then leave it again?
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Post by Sanunes on Jun 16, 2017 3:51:49 GMT
Well... Ah...shit, that'd be a weird game and no one would be happy with the outcome. That's a lot of lore, DLC and main stories to cram into one game, even if it were made on a 100+ hour play through scale and it would still be expensive to have to recreate all those assets. I mean, it's worth it to dream, I suppose, but I certainly wouldn't hold on to hope about it. Give it until the 25th anniversary of ME1 and they'll probably remaster the trilogy to get a hold of that nostalgia money. Andromeda was launched 5 years after ME3 and the salt from it still burned the spin-off. However, MEA did help take the heat away from the Milky Way so that any game set on it doesn't feel like a cop out of ME3's ending. Take Halo for example. After beating up the Flood in 3, they went and retconned the entire lore to create the Forerunner trilogy and because they f***ed up with yandere Catalyst Cortana now they brought back the Flood because people forgot them just enough not to feel forced. In my opinion a reboot reimagining the OT into a single game will be very well received if it was launched around 2021 to coincide with the 15th anniversary of ME1. Such date would also fit BioWare's release schedule since their next big action RPG title will be DA4 in 2018 or 2019. If a Mass Effect reboot takes place in 2021 and is well received, then we might get MEA2 in 2023. I just don't see it. When it comes to EA and now by association BioWare people are unwilling to let anything go (See Westwood Studios crica 2003) and compressing the three games into one would again cause problems because it would require the removal or change of content that some people would like or enjoy. Edit: Not to mention that cutting down the game means basically everything about the first three will be destroyed and then re-created to fit within the purview of fitting into a single release for they would have to cut and purge content to make it fit within a reasonable development cycle otherwise it would never be released. |
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We'd sooner get a half decent sequel of the Last Airbender film by M. Night Shamalamasomethingorother than an actual reimagining of the original trilogy, and either would require a blood sacrifice, the alignment of the planets and Tommy Wiseau winning an Oscar, all happening simultaneously. We must go forward, not backward, upward, not forward, and always whirling, whirling, whirling towards coming to terms with the fact that Shepard is dead forever. *twerling  |
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Nice fantasy. Thanks for sharing.
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