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Post by jasonpogo on Jun 14, 2017 10:48:14 GMT
Sell Dragon Age and Mass Effect to Obsidian so they will be actual RPGs again and Bioware can focus on its action shooters with "RPG" elements. Everyone wins.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jun 14, 2017 11:05:02 GMT
Don't know obsidian but I'd doubt they'd make the games with Biowares "touch" regardless if they lack RPG features (which has been an issue dating long ago, it's not a recent issue).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 11:48:59 GMT
Obsidian does not have the money to do 3D graphics even at NWN2 level, and their own three IPs are actually better than a Dragon Age. I certainly do not want to play Mass Effect in an isometric projection. I don't mind picking an odd title from a Obsidian, but I want them to stop being treated as "make the sequel" company. Let them try their own stuff. They also need to finally learn to stick to deadlines and keep scopes under tighter control before they can get out of indie niche market. Not to mention overcome some serious writing hangups, like adding miles of useless descriptive text and treating romances with all the open-mindedness of a Victorian era old maid.
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Post by shechinah on Jun 14, 2017 11:58:40 GMT
Why would EA sell its IPs to other companies? Especially Dragon Age which is still a successful IP?
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jun 14, 2017 12:13:48 GMT
Their RPG titles are falling back on the old style RPG gameplay, using isometric user interface; Pillars of Eternity, Tyranny. I've seen gameplay of these two, there's little voice acting. What little there are is never complete; meaning you hear the VA say part of the dialogue and you read the rest of it. There is a lot of text dialogue and codex (POE has a lot) which means you spend most of the time reading. That's hardly immersive, imo. I definitely do not want DA to go that way.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 14, 2017 13:33:48 GMT
Sell Dragon Age and Mass Effect to Obsidian so they will be actual RPGs again and Bioware can focus on its action shooters with "RPG" elements. Everyone wins.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 13:56:52 GMT
Sell Dragon Age and Mass Effect to Obsidian so they will be actual RPGs again and Bioware can focus on its action shooters with "RPG" elements. Everyone wins. Obsidian doesn't have the money or manpower to make 3D Rpg's anymore, and that probably won't change, ever. Also EA selling Ip's? do you see any studios out there working on new Command and Conquer games? No, EA will sit on those IP's until the market change and suddenly they are sitting on a goldmine. That is how the industry works, kiddo. Anything else? Also not be an ass, but i will never let Obsidian touch Dragon Age. That series wouldn't be the same without Mike and Mark.
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Post by Iakus on Jun 14, 2017 14:04:46 GMT
Sell Dragon Age and Mass Effect to Obsidian so they will be actual RPGs again and Bioware can focus on its action shooters with "RPG" elements. Everyone wins. I can get behind this. Obsidian is the closest you'll find to "old school Bioware" nowadays.
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Post by Arcian on Jun 14, 2017 16:45:46 GMT
Sell Dragon Age and Mass Effect to Obsidian so they will be actual RPGs again and Bioware can focus on its action shooters with "RPG" elements. Everyone wins. Mass Effect in the hands of Obsidian makes me wetter than the Pacific Ocean.
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Post by Fogg on Jun 14, 2017 16:55:14 GMT
Or Telltale for at least one adventure
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Post by cheeseandonion on Jun 14, 2017 19:24:00 GMT
Don't know obsidian but I'd doubt they'd make the games with Biowares "touch" regardless if they lack RPG features (which has been an issue dating long ago, it's not a recent issue). I'd hope not, Bioware has the touch of Jimmy Saville these days.
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Post by linksocarina on Jun 14, 2017 20:12:17 GMT
Obsidian is too middling for my tastes, the only must have game they have made if you ask me was New Vegas. But then again all developers are to an extant uneven in some form.
I don't think it's a good idea, regardless.
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Post by alanc9 on Jun 16, 2017 0:15:57 GMT
Sell Dragon Age and Mass Effect to Obsidian so they will be actual RPGs again and Bioware can focus on its action shooters with "RPG" elements. Everyone wins. Obsidian doesn't have the money or manpower to make 3D Rpg's anymore, and that probably won't change, ever. Also EA selling Ip's? do you see any studios out there working on new Command and Conquer games? No, EA will sit on those IP's until the market change and suddenly they are sitting on a goldmine. That is how the industry works, kiddo. Anything else? So EA's just biding their time until they can announce Wing Commander 6?
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Post by BamBam the Destroyer on Jun 16, 2017 2:15:49 GMT
Or Telltale for at least one adventure Telltale is really, really stale. After GoT I don't bother with them much. I have no issue with Obsidian making a licensed Bioware IP. I mean, Fallout 3 -> Fallout New Vegas Nuff said!
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Post by isaidlunch on Jun 16, 2017 4:41:43 GMT
I hope Obsidian keeps working on games like Pillars, isometric RPGs suit them well.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Jun 16, 2017 16:32:14 GMT
Nope because they're EA ips now.
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Post by Max Deltree on Jun 16, 2017 18:35:20 GMT
Sell Dragon Age and Mass Effect to Obsidian so they will be actual RPGs again and Bioware can focus on its action shooters with "RPG" elements. Everyone wins. You're assuming they have money to buy it. And after the Mass Effect reaction to the animation bugs, I would imagine a shitstorm with Obsidian's level of bugs. Imagine releasing a Kotor 2 or New Vegas today in the state they've released back then! Also, "all the talent left the studio" will be stated.
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Post by Iakus on Jun 17, 2017 0:38:38 GMT
Sell Dragon Age and Mass Effect to Obsidian so they will be actual RPGs again and Bioware can focus on its action shooters with "RPG" elements. Everyone wins. Obsidian doesn't have the money or manpower to make 3D Rpg's anymore, and that probably won't change, ever. Also EA selling Ip's? do you see any studios out there working on new Command and Conquer games? No, EA will sit on those IP's until the market change and suddenly they are sitting on a goldmine. That is how the industry works, kiddo. Anything else? Also not be an ass, but i will never let Obsidian touch Dragon Age. That series wouldn't be the same without Mike and Mark. After playing pillars of Eternity, I would gladly fork over money to see what Obsidian could do with a Dragon Age game on the Unity engine.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 13:40:33 GMT
I don't like the thought of going back to isometric. It's so much nicer to actually create your character than to add a 2D portrait to a wee paper doll.
plus, I still don't understand what's wrong with Obsidian's own IPs?
I suppose it will be funny, all thouse peeps whining about cloned Asari, now they get indistinguishable everyone, lol.
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Post by Iakus on Jun 17, 2017 16:22:41 GMT
I don't like the thought of going back to isometric. It's so much nicer to actually create your character than to add a 2D portrait to a wee paper doll. plus, I still don't understand what's wrong with Obsidian's own IPs? I suppose it will be funny, all thouse peeps whining about cloned Asari, now they get indistinguishable everyone, lol. There's way more to making your own character than the portrait. Heck, I find that to be the least important aspect. And nothing's wrong with Obsidian's IPs. But if Bioware doesn't want to make RPGs anymore, it would be nice if those who DO stepped in and took over.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 17, 2017 16:56:01 GMT
This isn't about Anthem, so I'm moving it to the Lobby.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Jun 17, 2017 16:59:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 18:17:01 GMT
I don't like the thought of going back to isometric. It's so much nicer to actually create your character than to add a 2D portrait to a wee paper doll. plus, I still don't understand what's wrong with Obsidian's own IPs? I suppose it will be funny, all thouse peeps whining about cloned Asari, now they get indistinguishable everyone, lol. There's way more to making your own character than the portrait. Heck, I find that to be the least important aspect. And nothing's wrong with Obsidian's IPs. But if Bioware doesn't want to make RPGs anymore, it would be nice if those who DO stepped in and took over. Well, for me char appearance is hugely important, and tbh, neither ME nor DA IP are that great. JE would be nice, but JE in isometrics with pause is not gonna be that great. DA2 style, yeah, I am on board for that sale.
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Post by Lorn on Jun 17, 2017 19:08:23 GMT
Don't know obsidian but I'd doubt they'd make the games with Biowares "touch" regardless if they lack RPG features (which has been an issue dating long ago, it's not a recent issue). What is this elusive "BioWare's touch" you are referencing? Is it the absolutely banal story that has been repeated in every single BioWare game? Is it the incessant need to create a dating simulator? Is it where BioWare touched you inappropriately? The world shall never know! Their RPG titles are falling back on the old style RPG gameplay, using isometric user interface; Pillars of Eternity, Tyranny. I've seen gameplay of these two, there's little voice acting. What little there are is never complete; meaning you hear the VA say part of the dialogue and you read the rest of it. There is a lot of text dialogue and codex (POE has a lot) which means you spend most of the time reading. That's hardly immersive, imo. I definitely do not want DA to go that way. Oh the horror! TEXT DIALOG AND READING?! How can they expect people to be able to READ text dialogue! How dare they assume people's education!
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Post by o Ventus on Jun 17, 2017 19:54:53 GMT
Let's not pretend that Obsidian is actually better than Bioware.
As much as I actually like New Vegas, KOTOR 2, and Pillars of Eternity, Obsidian can't launch a game to save their fucking lives despite all of the budget increases and delays they receive. They're even worse than Bethesda when it comes to launching games that shit their pants and die on Day One, and they're easily just as bad at assuming that the mod community will fix the myriad of bugs that their games launch with and actually make them playable.
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