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Post by SalMasRac on Sept 14, 2016 21:51:03 GMT
Whenever I join a pug game I assume that I will the the only one who cares about the Objectives. So the Hardening is useful for Devices and such. If playing with one other BSN'er then Damage.
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Sept 14, 2016 21:52:17 GMT
Whenever I join a pug game I assume that I will the the only one who cares about the Objectives. So the Hardening is useful for Devices and such. If playing with one other BSN'er then Damage. Well, duration cloak is also useful for devices, doesn't mean you pick it up
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Post by SalMasRac on Sept 14, 2016 21:56:02 GMT
Whenever I join a pug game I assume that I will the the only one who cares about the Objectives. So the Hardening is useful for Devices and such. If playing with one other BSN'er then Damage. Well, duration cloak is also useful for devices, doesn't mean you pick it up It's also useful for trolling pugs, so in some cases you do. In regards to both, you get two vanilla humans, so you can spec both ways, and decide which to play from how the lobby looks.
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Post by Robo on Sept 14, 2016 22:13:25 GMT
You spend enough time playing as a Geth Infiltrator with Hunter Mode fully cranked 24/7, and you find it hard to care about damage protection with anyone.
So, uh... Damage. Damage all the way.
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Post by crashsuit on Sept 14, 2016 22:27:18 GMT
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Post by Terminator Force on Sept 14, 2016 22:49:36 GMT
You spend enough time playing as a Geth Infiltrator with Hunter Mode fully cranked 24/7, and you find it hard to care about damage protection with anyone.So, uh... Damage. Damage all the way. You mean play enough hiding behind Tactical Cloak and Geth Scanner and you don't need damage protection anymore?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 22:57:32 GMT
Damage, it makes a noticeable difference on a Claymore shot. I find his other powers and his agility make him resistant enough without any form of DR.
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Post by SalMasRac on Sept 14, 2016 22:58:50 GMT
You spend enough time playing as a Geth Infiltrator with Hunter Mode fully cranked 24/7, and you find it hard to care about damage protection with anyone.So, uh... Damage. Damage all the way. You mean play enough hiding behind Tactical Cloak and Geth Scanner and you don't need damage protection anymore? Geth Trooper says: "Burn."
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 15, 2016 0:08:49 GMT
I waz trolling. Truth is, I do better with a level 1 Vanilla Human Soldier than I do with a level 20.
The reason is Claymoar and AR.
((and I don't like Con Shot) and Frag Grenades are passe.)
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Post by Mission_Scrubbed on Sept 15, 2016 0:23:03 GMT
Lets wait for Mission_Scrubbed to report here. Oh, you. We do need to grab more games together. If I wanted to be tanky I'd play a turian, krogan or batarian. They can keep their DR up 24/7, HSol can't. Lol, I have murdered lots of these kits you mentioned - anyone who I didn't like, actually. I just blocked their pathway with my body, they got panicked , tried to run through the Banshees, big red letters on the scoreboard. Loltanks they said. Anyway, the only Turian I can respect is the TSol. But he's got a damn fat ass and that's not very sexy when you are alone with a tall rabid lady and you need the moves. Quarian has Marksman too, but he lacks a stagger power - a major plus on any kit - so he's down for the count. You can't even kill a Phantom on host without a stagger power. Let alone Marksman is not designed for close-range encounters. The point is, Hardening of course is not Tech Armor, noone says it is, it is just an add-to-cart helpful feature. Along with instant reload, damage, shields, or free skill (BF3). There's not another power in the whole game like Adrenaline Rush. Pair it with a dependable stagger power like Concussive shot and awesome staggerthefuckoutofgoons Frags, and HSol has it all. Interesting question. I only play this kit as a level one, it is too OP after that. Hardening on Male due to Concussive Shot build and Damage to Female due to weapons build. Both have shield boost. Exactly my builds. @ BinaryHelix On my weapons build I go for damage, because I can easily manage with 4 people in-game. Also, I like HSol Javelin a lot, so I don't really take huge amounts of damage. On the BF3 HSol I have decided to repress my self-preservation instinct and sacrifice every single bit of defense, but the results are terrifying. Here's Damage AR vs a full Possessed Platinum Scion: In conclusion: Adrenaline will be nothing more of an extension to your own gameplay. If you want to be a topscoring oldie-but-Goldie serial killer or a Teamplayer and survivor, it's just a click away.
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Post by Robo on Sept 15, 2016 0:41:22 GMT
Yeah, you know. Whatever. You mean play enough hiding behind Tactical Cloak and Geth Scanner and you don't need damage protection anymore? Don't even start this shit with me, terminator man. This is not the face of mercy.
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Post by I_Never_Extract on Sept 15, 2016 0:57:45 GMT
I prefer Hardening, considering I always have to do the objectives or the rule of the one button, or the enemy cheating at every opportunity...
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Post by SalMasRac on Sept 15, 2016 1:20:10 GMT
In conclusion: Adrenaline will be nothing more of an extension to your own gameplay. If you want to be a topscoring oldie-but-Goldie serial killer or a Teamplayer and survivor, it's just a click away. I've never played BF3 Soldier in all these 4 years. Just tried him with full damage spec 6/6/6/6/0 and a Crusader, and topscored the match. He's pretty good actually. I just hate that stupid orange glowy shit
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Post by Terminator Force on Sept 15, 2016 1:35:00 GMT
Anyway, Mission_Scrubbed sure didn't disappoint. My jaw is still on the floor.
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Post by SalMasRac on Sept 15, 2016 2:07:57 GMT
Ok so here's some BF3 ponderings after those last two matches.
Rank 6 Adreneline Rush is either Shield Boost or Power Use. Unless you take Power Use, you really don't get much use out of Carnage, since you want AR up as much as possible. So perhaps spec out of Carnage, as you can detonate Incendiary Ammo with Grenades. This would work well with Claymore.
I like to use the Fixed Crusader on this guy, as it works at any range. For this though, a lock-on Detonator such as Carnage is useful. Fire 4 shots, AR, Fire 4 Power Shots, Carnage for the Fire Explosion (you ARE using Incendiary Ammo, right?), TCP, Fire 4 Super Shots at the next Boss because the one you were fighting for the previous 3 seconds is already dead now.
So with this build, since I'm not getting Shield Boost at Rank 6, I'm considering taking the Damage Reduction at Rank 4. I'm thinking that Hardening and Shield Boost are a one-or-the-other pick, as both are unnecessary unless you need to git gud.
TL;DR if fighting close range, Damage and Shield Boost. If fighting midrange, Hardening and Power Use.
Human Soldiers are classics, lots of ways to spec them. I'm glad I gave BF3 a whirl.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 15, 2016 6:32:17 GMT
Love me sum BF3.
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Sept 15, 2016 7:53:19 GMT
Speaking of Human Soldier I forgot one more thing. He has Frag grenades and one evo is Bleed Damage which gives 50% damage to "organics" So does that mean health damage or any creature that is "organic" meaning it doesn't work vs Geth or Turrets, that kinda thing?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 8:29:22 GMT
Speaking of Human Soldier I forgot one more thing. He has Frag grenades and one evo is Bleed Damage which gives 50% damage to "organics" So does that mean health damage or any creature that is "organic" meaning it doesn't work vs Geth or Turrets, that kinda thing? It means it doesn't work VS synthetics : Geth, Atlases and turrets.
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Post by Deerber on Sept 15, 2016 9:06:40 GMT
Ok so here's some BF3 ponderings after those last two matches. Rank 6 Adreneline Rush is either Shield Boost or Power Use. Unless you take Power Use, you really don't get much use out of Carnage, since you want AR up as much as possible. So perhaps spec out of Carnage, as you can detonate Incendiary Ammo with Grenades. This would work well with Claymore. I like to use the Fixed Crusader on this guy, as it works at any range. For this though, a lock-on Detonator such as Carnage is useful. Fire 4 shots, AR, Fire 4 Power Shots, Carnage for the Fire Explosion (you ARE using Incendiary Ammo, right?), TCP, Fire 4 Super Shots at the next Boss because the one you were fighting for the previous 3 seconds is already dead now. So with this build, since I'm not getting Shield Boost at Rank 6, I'm considering taking the Damage Reduction at Rank 4. I'm thinking that Hardening and Shield Boost are a one-or-the-other pick, as both are unnecessary unless you need to git gud. TL;DR if fighting close range, Damage and Shield Boost. If fighting midrange, Hardening and Power Use. Human Soldiers are classics, lots of ways to spec them. I'm glad I gave BF3 a whirl. Take damage and bonus power, spec fully into carnage and go no fitness with a Claymore in hand. Also power amp. Not for the faint of heart, but the level of destruction that kit can pull out against armor heavy spawns is almost on the drelldept level...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 10:33:46 GMT
I like to go Damage/Shield Boost/no Concussive Shot on my Claymore Male Human Soldier: Claymore Human SoldierI do however have a Concussive Shot/no AR build on my Female Human Soldier, works great with Lancer or Revenant and plays somewhat similar to my offensive Juggernaut build, keeping CS on cooldown while bridging the gap with shots from my gun: Concussive Shot Human SoldierThe BF3-Soldier I do play as a grenade power character without AR. Prime the enemy for Tech Bursts with Disruptor Ammo on the Scorpion, detonate the Burst with Carnage which will prime them for a fire explosion, detonate the FE with a Frag Grenade. Squishy stuff, but surprisingly effective: BF3 Grenade Build
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Post by nucleartech76 on Sept 15, 2016 11:46:18 GMT
Neither optimally. I only spec to evolution 2 bc claymore.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 12:59:17 GMT
The Quarian Marksman is where I go when I want hardness. Remember Grunt's Law: "You're soft. Salarians, asari, all soft. Quarians, not so much" Oh, and he always does just the right amount of damage. I'm sometimes so impressed by your knowledge of all things Quarians to the point of even remembering Krogan quotes about Quarians. If it can be made into a creepy xenophillic innuendo, I probably remember it. More embarrassing than impressive but w/e
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Post by nucleartech76 on Sept 15, 2016 16:17:59 GMT
Maybe its just my style but I find earlier free reload and access to my other powers to be more useful. I spec two Evolutions in and duration is shorter on AR which means you can get a earlier claymore double tap. If some dumbass gets grabbed it's very useful to have immediate access to that double shot. More claymore equals more fun for me, jmo though. If you're going to go damage or hardening it's entirely player dependent.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 23:51:36 GMT
More claymore equals more fun for me, jmo though. If you're going to go damage or hardening it's entirely player dependent. Like many things here, and that is good. Nothing beats diversity and personal styles of playing
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Post by Kenny Bania on Sept 16, 2016 5:24:41 GMT
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