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Post by Monica21 on Jul 16, 2017 16:42:12 GMT
What I would hope (and I appreciate I'm really reaching here) is to adopt a creepier tone with any Quarian Ark DLC, and have that feed into he greater storyline going in MEA. MEA's biggest crime, imho, isn't so much it's release state or its dialogue or whatever the favourite bashing du jour is, it's the fact they've kind of abandoned the whole darker slant the original trilogy had. Every so often, there's a quest that reminds you that Bioware can still do this thing brilliantly - the save the Moshae quest, the creepy quest in the hills where you go looking for the girl wrongfully evicted from the port... but its not front and centre anymore, which I don't think is a good idea. That's something I think they could have done better. There were definitely opportunities to deliver the creep factor, but I don't think they capitalized on it. I would like to bring back the feeling of arriving on the Collector ship and not knowing what was around the corner.
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Post by sil on Jul 16, 2017 17:20:33 GMT
We'll see geth, at the least so we get geth in MP, or to get geth as an enemy in MP. Either way, we'll get geth due to MP.
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Post by malgus on Jul 16, 2017 18:40:40 GMT
We'll see geth, at the least so we get geth in MP, or to get geth as an enemy in MP. Either way, we'll get geth due to MP. And it can easily be justified, geth can exist outside of their synthetic bodies, so they could easily have infiltrated in one of the computers or whatever and hided there.
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Post by sil on Jul 16, 2017 21:53:31 GMT
We'll see geth, at the least so we get geth in MP, or to get geth as an enemy in MP. Either way, we'll get geth due to MP. And it can easily be justified, geth can exist outside of their synthetic bodies, so they could easily have infiltrated in one of the computers or whatever and hided there. It was something I had expected in the main game. A geth stowaway platform like Legion, full to the brim with geth inside.
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Post by malgus on Jul 16, 2017 23:34:05 GMT
And it can easily be justified, geth can exist outside of their synthetic bodies, so they could easily have infiltrated in one of the computers or whatever and hided there. It was something I had expected in the main game. A geth stowaway platform like Legion, full to the brim with geth inside. Looks like an Idea for a companion in future instalments...
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Post by smilesja on Jul 17, 2017 0:20:50 GMT
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Post by malgus on Jul 17, 2017 0:31:07 GMT
I was scared the title was going to be "Why bioware should go back to the milky way..." something that would piss me off if bioware did that.
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Post by Sarayne on Jul 17, 2017 2:51:32 GMT
Scott Hauenstein @shatterhand1701 @tibermoon You've left me with no reason to disbelieve you've abandoned #MassEffectAndromeda and its fans. We deserved better than that. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonI'm sorry you feel abandoned. We patched the game again and added new MP content as recently as 10 days ago. Matt Hansen @matthewhn7 I think the lack of clarification of singleplayer DLC to a fan base who thinks the franchise is dead. Is the cause for that feeling. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonI can understand that. Alas, I can neither confirm nor deny SP DLC plans. NDAs and all that. This fills me with hope but then i realize i could just be hearing what i want to hear
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Post by kino on Jul 17, 2017 3:24:50 GMT
This fills me with hope but then i realize i could just be hearing what i want to hear No, I think you're hearing what he said. The minute someone say's "NDA", man, there's a reason to be hopeful.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 17, 2017 3:29:03 GMT
We can only hope.
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Post by Serza on Jul 17, 2017 10:41:15 GMT
Guys. Ian Frazier can neither confirm nor deny anything. To say he can't confirm... OR DENY usually means "Yeah, there's something, but I can't talk about it" And that's before he mentions the mere EXISTENCE of a Non-Disclosure Agreement.
I thought about it. And there si considerable amount of evidence that DLC is indeed coming. Of course, he can neither confirm nor deny this, but think about it. He can't... deny... it.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 17, 2017 11:20:15 GMT
Guys. Ian Frazier can neither confirm nor deny anything. To say he can't confirm... OR DENY usually means "Yeah, there's something, but I can't talk about it" And that's before he mentions the mere EXISTENCE of a Non-Disclosure Agreement. I thought about it. And there si considerable amount of evidence that DLC is indeed coming. Of course, he can neither confirm nor deny this, but think about it. He can't... deny... it. Yea, that's the "best" news we can hope for. I personally think that the fact it's impossible to reach Nexus lvl 29-even at 100% complete game is a "yes" without even saying yes.
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Post by jaegerbane on Jul 17, 2017 11:28:15 GMT
Guys. Ian Frazier can neither confirm nor deny anything. To say he can't confirm... OR DENY usually means "Yeah, there's something, but I can't talk about it" And that's before he mentions the mere EXISTENCE of a Non-Disclosure Agreement. I thought about it. And there si considerable amount of evidence that DLC is indeed coming. Of course, he can neither confirm nor deny this, but think about it. He can't... deny... it. Usually, but nonetheless the only thing you can objectively take from this is that he can't say one way or the other. What you can do is rationally compare the track record of Bioware under EA against the sources that unequivocally state that there is no DLC coming, which so far only appear to be represented by a certain Kotaku journalist. Given his behaviour in recent weeks, and the fact that his sources sound suspiciously similar to the hoax company that were saying the same thing, I'm not really willing to believe that EA are going to make such a drastic course change at this stage. I'm ready to stand corrected but that's how it appears from the facts that we know.
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 17, 2017 14:08:04 GMT
Guys. Ian Frazier can neither confirm nor deny anything. To say he can't confirm... OR DENY usually means "Yeah, there's something, but I can't talk about it" And that's before he mentions the mere EXISTENCE of a Non-Disclosure Agreement. I thought about it. And there si considerable amount of evidence that DLC is indeed coming. Of course, he can neither confirm nor deny this, but think about it. He can't... deny... it. What you can do is rationally compare the track record of Bioware under EA against the sources that unequivocally state that there is no DLC coming, which so far only appear to be represented by a certain Kotaku journalist. Two journalists actaully. One from Kotaku and one from Eurogamer. And it beliving they are just lying and Andromeda is fine seems to be a common thing here. But then there is this topic.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 14:23:37 GMT
What you can do is rationally compare the track record of Bioware under EA against the sources that unequivocally state that there is no DLC coming, which so far only appear to be represented by a certain Kotaku journalist. Two journalists actaully. One from Kotaku and one from Eurogamer. And it beliving they are just lying and Andromeda is fine seems to be a common thing here. But then there is this topic. From the wording in the Eurogamer just seems to be confirming the same source as Kotaku. Regardless of whether that single source is or is not related to the hoax, if the source "familiar with Bioware" is mistaken as to EA's plans or if EA's plans changed subsequent to the leak, then both articles will be "wrong." Even the Kotaku article acknowledges that the plans to cancel could subsequently change. What gets me is people who are so locked into that article won't even believe it when it itself basically says the decision wasn't final at that point; but would rather instead continually imply that people (like jaegerbane ) who are clearly acknowledging that the DLC could still go either way are somehow believing in a lie. Open your eyes to reality, please and stop trying to stir up a hornet's nest here.
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Post by kino on Jul 17, 2017 14:30:54 GMT
Guys. Ian Frazier can neither confirm nor deny anything. To say he can't confirm... OR DENY usually means "Yeah, there's something, but I can't talk about it" And that's before he mentions the mere EXISTENCE of a Non-Disclosure Agreement. I thought about it. And there si considerable amount of evidence that DLC is indeed coming. Of course, he can neither confirm nor deny this, but think about it. He can't... deny... it. Usually, but nonetheless the only thing you can objectively take from this is that he can't say one way or the other. What you can do is rationally compare the track record of Bioware under EA against the sources that unequivocally state that there is no DLC coming, which so far only appear to be represented by a certain Kotaku journalist. Given his behaviour in recent weeks, and the fact that his sources sound suspiciously similar to the hoax company that were saying the same thing, I'm not really willing to believe that EA are going to make such a drastic course change at this stage. I'm ready to stand corrected but that's how it appears from the facts that we know. Agreed. EA/BW are definitely into DLC. Always have been. If there were a Magic 8-Ball involved it would say "the odds are good."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 14:32:33 GMT
What you can do is rationally compare the track record of Bioware under EA against the sources that unequivocally state that there is no DLC coming, which so far only appear to be represented by a certain Kotaku journalist. Two journalists actaully. One from Kotaku and one from Eurogamer. And it beliving they are just lying and Andromeda is fine seems to be a common thing here. But then there is this topic. Sources as shaky as the ones claimed in either article give people reasonable doubt as to the credibility of claims made therein, especially with the overall lack of credibility in the media in its entirety these days. More to the point, I can't help but shake the feeling that your only point in posting in this thread is to take a shit in the kettle...
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 17, 2017 15:14:58 GMT
Two journalists actaully. One from Kotaku and one from Eurogamer. And it beliving they are just lying and Andromeda is fine seems to be a common thing here. But then there is this topic. From the wording in the Eurogamer just seems to be confirming the same source as Kotaku. The Eurogamer's journalist stated that he talked with sources, so it wasn't just reporting what Kotaku said. So we have two journliasts that got the same information independently.
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 17, 2017 15:18:10 GMT
Two journalists actaully. One from Kotaku and one from Eurogamer. And it beliving they are just lying and Andromeda is fine seems to be a common thing here. But then there is this topic. More to the point, I can't help but shake the feeling that your only point in posting in this thread is to take a shit in the kettle... I wouldn't word it like that. I just wanted to point out that I find it... weird that in one topic I saw a huge circlejerk of fans bashing Kotaku and gaming journalist as a whole and saying how they are just lying and just want clicks and are certainly lying. And in another we have one topic that wouldn't exist if people didn't give credit for that very same journalist. This whole situation is a mess.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 15:21:20 GMT
From the wording in the Eurogamer just seems to be confirming the same source as Kotaku. The Eurogamer's journalist stated that he talked with sources, so it wasn't just reporting what Kotaku said. So we have two journliasts that got the same information independently. What I got from that article is the impression that Eurogamer independently talked with Kotaku's source(s) which is, in effect, independently verifying the source. Even so, it does not preclude the fact that Jason acknowledged within the article that the decision could change... that means his source was not able to say that the decision was absolutely final. In the absence of a final, written in stone decision... DLC is still possible... and THAT is what a number of non-delusional people have been clearly saying here. If you believe Kotaku's article, then you should believe that the decision to cancel could still be changed to go ahead with DLC... so, you are, in effect, only believing in the parts of the Kotaku article that you choose to believe in and are, in fact, ignoring the rest.
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Post by phoenix64 on Jul 17, 2017 15:22:35 GMT
Bioware employees seem to be under NDA. Reporters say that they got that info from "related" source, so that means someone at bioware would violate NDA anyway, which seems unrealistic tbh. Just the short logic trail I follow when those articles are brought up. I think there's no better way to tell than to wait and see now.
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Post by sil on Jul 17, 2017 15:23:40 GMT
I really feel for the devs. EA holding the leash has got to be hard on them, especially since it's obvious they want to talk to the fans honestly (and I had one even tell me that). I'm glad to see that Kal'reegar's death was fake news.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 15:27:15 GMT
More to the point, I can't help but shake the feeling that your only point in posting in this thread is to take a shit in the kettle... I wouldn't word it like that. I just wanted to point out that I find it... weird that in one topic I saw a huge circlejerk of fans bashing Kotaku and gaming journalist as a whole and saying how they are just lying and just want clicks and are certainly lying. And in another we have one topic that wouldn't exist if people didn't give credit for that very same journalist. This whole situation is a mess. There is a group of people out there in the wilderness that harbor a near pathological hate for ME:A and BioWare in general. Those would be the people taking Jason and Kotaku at face value. The other group are people who like ME:A to some degree and have a healthy dose of skepticism in regards to a notoriously bad "journalist" from a notoriously bad "journalistic outlet." A mess? certainly, but to take whatever the media shovels down one's gullet at face value and not question it at all is asinine at best.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 15:29:20 GMT
Loving the "you're just a BioWare/EA shill!!1" comments.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 17, 2017 15:30:35 GMT
Loving the "you're just a BioWare/EA shill!!1" comments. We need good honest people like smudboy.
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