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Post by SpaceBard on Jul 17, 2017 15:38:50 GMT
Do you guys believe that the Geth will be involved? I don't, actually. At least, not right now. Maybe later down the road, but I'm not sure how you get the Geth there without stowing away...unless the Geth build their own Ark equivalent. I just can't figure out a reason why the Geth would want to go to Andromeda. I don't think they build a ark, is more easier upload thenselves on a remnant receptor signal with some lore hidem (benefactor) this may explain why Pathfinders need a AI. |
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 17, 2017 15:50:31 GMT
From the wording in the Eurogamer just seems to be confirming the same source as Kotaku. The Eurogamer's journalist stated that he talked with sources, so it wasn't just reporting what Kotaku said. So we have two journliasts that got the same information independently. Incorrect. This is what was said. "A source close to BioWare has told me similar - no single-player DLC is planned at this time."One source, anonymous, no claims of the source being employed by Bioware, and again the story is couched so that if single-player DLC appears they can't be accused of fake news. There isn't even a claim that it's a different source than Kotaku's. www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-07-05-mass-effect-andromeda-multiplayer-is-getting-a-surprising-new-raceNow, we're all off-topic so we should probably shut the fuck up about it in this thread.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 15:54:54 GMT
The Eurogamer's journalist stated that he talked with sources, so it wasn't just reporting what Kotaku said. So we have two journliasts that got the same information independently. Incorrect. This is what was said. "A source close to BioWare has told me similar - no single-player DLC is planned at this time."One source, anonymous, no claims of the source being employed by Bioware, and again the story is couched so that if single-player DLC appears they can't be accused of fake news. There isn't even a claim that it's a different source than Kotaku's. www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-07-05-mass-effect-andromeda-multiplayer-is-getting-a-surprising-new-raceNow, we're all off-topic so we should probably shut the fuck up about it in this thread. Thank you Fen'Harel Faceman for the better clarification of what it was that Eurogamer actually said. I agree. From Ian's recent comments, I think we are just clearly still in a holding pattern. Whatever the reason for them not being able to say anything at this time, all that can be done is wait until they are able to say something. |
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Post by sil on Jul 17, 2017 15:54:55 GMT
So....
You have to take the aliens off the ark one species at a time, in what order do you do it?
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Post by kino on Jul 17, 2017 16:01:15 GMT
So.... You have to take the aliens off the ark one species at a time, in what order do you do it? Elcor Hanar GethQuarians Volus Drell Volus, Hanar, Drell and Quarian's all have specific needs, yeah? Those needs would need to be met before taking them out of stasis. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 16:03:41 GMT
So.... You have to take the aliens off the ark one species at a time, in what order do you do it? Elcor Hanar GethQuarians Volus Drell Quarians first - need all the tech knowledge Volus second - to have them fully set up the inter-Andromeda economy Hanar - because any society needs it's religious fanatics Drill - because the religious fanatics need their assassins Geth - probably won't need waking up because there is absolutely no need for them to go into stasis. Either the Quarians recreate them or they are already resident in the ark's systems (i.e. uploaded themselves) before it left the Milky Way. I saw on another thread another interesting theory... why couldn't they have just uploaded themselves through the array program used to scan Andromeda in the first place. |
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Post by kino on Jul 17, 2017 16:05:32 GMT
The Eurogamer's journalist stated that he talked with sources, so it wasn't just reporting what Kotaku said. So we have two journliasts that got the same information independently. Incorrect. This is what was said. "A source close to BioWare has told me similar - no single-player DLC is planned at this time."One source, anonymous, no claims of the source being employed by Bioware, and again the story is couched so that if single-player DLC appears they can't be accused of fake news. There isn't even a claim that it's a different source than Kotaku's. www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-07-05-mass-effect-andromeda-multiplayer-is-getting-a-surprising-new-raceNow, we're all off-topic so we should probably shut the fuck up about it in this thread. Agreed. It's well worn ground at this point on both sides. Besides, talking about Jibberjabber's articles makes my eye twitch. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 16:07:09 GMT
Quarians first - need all the tech knowledge Volus second - to have them fully set up the inter-Andromeda economy Hanar - because any society needs it's religious fanatics Drill - because the religious fanatics need their assassins Geth - probably won't need waking up because there is absolutely no need for them to go into stasis. Either the Quarians recreate them or they are already resident in the ark's systems (i.e. uploaded themselves) before it left the Milky Way. I saw on another thread another interesting theory... why couldn't they have just uploaded themselves through the array program used to scan Andromeda in the first place. I still think SAM has Geth tech in him. He reminds me more of Legion than EDI. Well, Alex was overheard talking to a Quarian in his memory logs... so it is quite possible he used some geth components or know-how to make SAM. If we do get a second game... I could see this getting "veeerrrry interesting." Daro'Xen could would be so pleased. |
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Jul 17, 2017 16:10:33 GMT
Quarians first - need all the tech knowledge Volus second - to have them fully set up the inter-Andromeda economy Hanar - because any society needs it's religious fanatics Drill - because the religious fanatics need their assassins Geth - probably won't need waking up because there is absolutely no need for them to go into stasis. Either the Quarians recreate them or they are already resident in the ark's systems (i.e. uploaded themselves) before it left the Milky Way. I saw on another thread another interesting theory... why couldn't they have just uploaded themselves through the array program used to scan Andromeda in the first place. I still think SAM has Geth tech in him. He reminds me more of Legion than EDI. I hadn't thought of that. There could be some really interesting story lines out of sam being based off geth tech. |
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Post by Heimdall on Jul 17, 2017 16:11:13 GMT
So.... You have to take the aliens off the ark one species at a time, in what order do you do it? Elcor Hanar GethQuarians Volus Drell Quarians first - need all the tech knowledge Volus second - to have them fully set up the inter-Andromeda economy Hanar - because any society needs it's religious fanatics Drill - because the religious fanatics need their assassins Geth - probably won't need waking up because there is absolutely no need for them to go into stasis. Either the Quarians recreate them or they are already resident in the ark's systems (i.e. uploaded themselves) before it left the Milky Way. I saw on another thread another interesting theory... why couldn't they have just uploaded themselves through the array program used to scan Andromeda in the first place. So, just gonna leave the Elcor frozen? |
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 17, 2017 16:13:50 GMT
Loving the "you're just a BioWare/EA shill!!1" comments.  We need good honest people like smudboy.  >smudboy >honest Pick one. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 16:14:58 GMT
Quarians first - need all the tech knowledge Volus second - to have them fully set up the inter-Andromeda economy Hanar - because any society needs it's religious fanatics Drill - because the religious fanatics need their assassins Geth - probably won't need waking up because there is absolutely no need for them to go into stasis. Either the Quarians recreate them or they are already resident in the ark's systems (i.e. uploaded themselves) before it left the Milky Way. I saw on another thread another interesting theory... why couldn't they have just uploaded themselves through the array program used to scan Andromeda in the first place. So, just gonna leave the Elcor frozen? Oops, they should fit in just behind the volus - Cigar-store shopkeeping being their real forte, so they are very integral to the economy... need my morning paper and snack. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 17, 2017 16:15:48 GMT
The Eurogamer's journalist stated that he talked with sources, so it wasn't just reporting what Kotaku said. So we have two journliasts that got the same information independently. Incorrect. This is what was said. "A source close to BioWare has told me similar - no single-player DLC is planned at this time."One source, anonymous, no claims of the source being employed by Bioware, and again the story is couched so that if single-player DLC appears they can't be accused of fake news. There isn't even a claim that it's a different source than Kotaku's. www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-07-05-mass-effect-andromeda-multiplayer-is-getting-a-surprising-new-raceNow, we're all off-topic so we should probably shut the fuck up about it in this thread. The Eurogamer's journalist stated that he talked with a source, so it wasn't just reporting what Kotaku said. So we have two journliasts that got the same information independently. That should would. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 16:22:20 GMT
Oops, they should fit in just behind the volus - Cigar-store shopkeeping being their real forte, so they are very integral to the economy... need my morning paper and snack. We need an Elcor to help at the Immigration desk haha it'll be like Zootopia!  Yeah... the licence bureau scene in that movie was priceless! |
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 17, 2017 16:22:33 GMT
I really feel for the devs. EA holding the leash has got to be hard on them, especially since it's obvious they want to talk to the fans honestly (and I had one even tell me that). I think it an awkward scenario at least. I don't think it's EA's fault, at least in the sense that they are doing something that no other company does. Most developers don't talk freely simply because there is more to consider than just talking with fans. And although Bioware got more flak than other companies would because of many different reasons, the developer have their share of "fault" here. I mean, I don't know if fault is the best word, I don't think it's a fault someone can't make a game as good as ME3 or ME1, let alone ME2, but that was what was expect from Bioware, and they didn't deliver. |
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Jul 17, 2017 16:22:42 GMT
I hadn't thought of that. There could be some really interesting story lines out of sam being based off geth tech. If he is, and a Geth was in a DLC, I'd love it to tell him he had parts of a Geth in him. That would be pretty awesome! Maybe sam uses the human brain to reach consensus... I will definitely look at sam in a different light. |
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 17, 2017 16:25:12 GMT
Do you guys believe that the Geth will be involved? I don't, actually. At least, not right now. Maybe later down the road, but I'm not sure how you get the Geth there without stowing away...unless the Geth build their own Ark equivalent. I just can't figure out a reason why the Geth would want to go to Andromeda. It was the Geth that discovered Heleus cluster with many Golden Worlds. While it is most likely they found it by accident while searching for Reapers in Dark Space, they still took quite a lot of interest into the star cluster.
I'm guessing they found the Meridian in those scans, which from outside looks like a Dyson Sphere. Which is what Geth were building, to connect every geth program into a mega-structure to reach massive level of intelligence. Considering Heleus also had many resources for their projects, it wouldn't be so strange for geth to have a backup plan to move to Andromeda if things go for the worst in Milky Way.
Which it does, in ME3 Quarians attack the Geth with some virus Daro'Xen created, incapacitating most of their defenses, Quarians destroy what they build from Dyson Sphere and Geth get desperate and ally with Reapers. Before they allied with Reapers, it is possible they had already build an Ark for Andromeda and launched it before making a deal with Reapers to counter-attack Quarian offensive.
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 17, 2017 16:27:02 GMT
I think it an awkward scenario at least. I don't think it's EA's fault, at least in the sense that they are doing something that no other company does. Most developers don't talk freely simply because there is more to consider than just talking with fans. And although Bioware got more flak than other companies would because of many different reasons, the developer have their share of "fault" here. I mean, I don't know if fault is the best word, I don't think it's a fault someone can't make a game as good as ME3 or ME1, let alone ME2, but that was what was expect from Bioware, and they didn't deliver. It's harder when devs like to chat with the fans and have to keep silent. BW devs are game fans, EA marketers are likely not gamers and only focus on money, and that makes sense, but it causes a lot of conflict. Fans will focus on BW and not EA for answers, and they get the brunt end of everything, while EA gets the money. Well, they get money too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 16:33:20 GMT
It's harder when devs like to chat with the fans and have to keep silent. BW devs are game fans, EA marketers are likely not gamers and only focus on money, and that makes sense, but it causes a lot of conflict. Fans will focus on BW and not EA for answers, and they get the brunt end of everything, while EA gets the money. Well, they get money too. I could get into a very lengthy and highly political discussion about the complex monetary arrangements that can exist between Canadian companies and their American parent companies... but I won't beyond saying that your comment is very naive. |
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 17, 2017 16:38:34 GMT
It was the Geth that discovered Heleus cluster with many Golden Worlds. While it is most likely they found it by accident while searching for Reapers in Dark Space, they still took quite a lot of interest into the star cluster.
I'm guessing they found the Meridian in those scans, which from outside looks like a Dyson Sphere. Which is what Geth were building, to connect every geth program into a mega-structure to reach massive level of intelligence. Considering Heleus also had many resources for their projects, it wouldn't be so strange for geth to have a backup plan to move to Andromeda if things go for the worst in Milky Way.
Which it does, in ME3 Quarians attack the Geth with some virus Daro'Xen created, incapacitating most of their defenses, Quarians destroy what they build from Dyson Sphere and Geth get desperate and ally with Reapers. Before they allied with Reapers, it is possible they had already build an Ark for Andromeda and launched it before making a deal with Reapers to counter-attack Quarian offensive.
I wondered about that too. What were they doing that caused them to find Andromeda? Was it just the Reapers or did they know about Meridian? Is it possible that the MW and Andromeda are more connected than we thought? This also makes me wonder what was this "something" the Benefactor knew was coming? How did they know? We know it was the Reapers, but they didn't. I'm certain Geth had stumbled upon Meridian, while searching for Reapers in Dark Space. I doubt there are any connections between Andromeda and Milky Way until Andromeda Initiative came.
As for the Benefactor, he or she most likely just knew about the Reapers all along( just lacked full proof evidence until Shepard's events in ME1) and made plans to ditch galaxy. Although likely with plans to take over the AI for himself/herself.
There is a theory the Benefactor is on Hyperion, hence why he/she didn't make a move to take over AI after most of leadership was killed and/or murdered. The Benefactor came 14 months late, as Hyperion temporary drifted away of course in middle of journey in Dark Space. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 17, 2017 16:42:36 GMT
Well, they get money too. I could get into a very lengthy and highly political discussion about the complex monetary arrangements that can exist between Canadian companies and their American parent companies... but I won't beyond saying that your comment is very naive. I was going to say "they get the money too". But then I thought it would imply they get as much money in EA which I believe is not true. My point is that they don't work for free. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 16:45:34 GMT
I wondered about that too. What were they doing that caused them to find Andromeda? Was it just the Reapers or did they know about Meridian? Is it possible that the MW and Andromeda are more connected than we thought? This also makes me wonder what was this "something" the Benefactor knew was coming? How did they know? We know it was the Reapers, but they didn't. I'm certain Geth had stumbled upon Meridian, while searching for Reapers in Dark Space. I doubt there are any connections between Andromeda and Milky Way until Andromeda Initiative came.
As for the Benefactor, he or she most likely just knew about the Reapers all along( just lacked full proof evidence until Shepard's events in ME1) and made plans to ditch galaxy. Although likely with plans to take over the AI for himself/herself.
There is a theory the Benefactor is on Hyperion, hence why he/she didn't make a move to take over AI after most of leadership was killed and/or murdered. The Benefactor came 14 months late, as Hyperion temporary drifted away of course in middle of journey in Dark Space. I'm not abaolutely sure about that anymore. Some geth programs could have been riding in that sensor scan that gave the AI their information on the golden worlds to start with. Perhaps geth are the reason the Remnant started to suddenly become agressive (as noted by the Angara on Havarl). They could have had 600 years to establish themselves within the Remnant. We're dealing with software here... anything is possible. |
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 17, 2017 16:53:01 GMT
I'm certain Geth had stumbled upon Meridian, while searching for Reapers in Dark Space. I doubt there are any connections between Andromeda and Milky Way until Andromeda Initiative came.
As for the Benefactor, he or she most likely just knew about the Reapers all along( just lacked full proof evidence until Shepard's events in ME1) and made plans to ditch galaxy. Although likely with plans to take over the AI for himself/herself.
There is a theory the Benefactor is on Hyperion, hence why he/she didn't make a move to take over AI after most of leadership was killed and/or murdered. The Benefactor came 14 months late, as Hyperion temporary drifted away of course in middle of journey in Dark Space. I am tempted to thoroughly examine the Nexus and see if BW dropped hints. Like that Benefactor note in the Kett facility? I wonder if the Benefactor was exalted. Exalted Angara remember being Angara, so why not humans? Maybe being called the Benefactor was the only thing they remembered, so the Kett called them that? Maybe Uprising hinted something too, but I never read it. I really found the whole Jien thing to be a bit odd. Tann first says she died in the pod and never saw Heleus, then we find her DNA traces in her room and it's obvious she was awake. I don't think benefactor from Kett Exaltation facility is the same person as the Benefactor. In fact, I'm pretty sure they used a word "benefactor" more generally there.
Also as of right now, Kett only managed to Exalt the Krogans. And that happened way after Ryder's assault on the Exaltation facility.
So timing is a bit off for benefactor with Kett is same person as the Benefactor. Plus, why would Kett use that persons alias? Kett share something with Qunari, there are no names just titles of position. |
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Post by jaegerbane on Jul 17, 2017 16:54:06 GMT
The Eurogamer's journalist stated that he talked with a source, so it wasn't just reporting what Kotaku said. So we have two journliasts that got the same information independently. That should would. The point being made is that there's no reason to believe that Eurogamer's source is different to Kotaku's. Eurogamer may not be directly reporting Kotaku's story but if they're approaching the same person/people, then it effectively is. Neither news outlet would know and would have no way of verifying it either way short of comparing notes. That's generally the problem with anonymous sources and why I suspect that Eurogamer barely mention them. Being realistic, which is more likely? The same individuals breaking NDA and making bucks off two cashflows or exactly two and only two independent sources choosing to specifically talk to one journalist each? |
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 17, 2017 16:56:34 GMT
The Eurogamer's journalist stated that he talked with a source, so it wasn't just reporting what Kotaku said. So we have two journliasts that got the same information independently. That should would. The point being made is that there's no reason to believe that Eurogamer's source is different to Kotaku's. Eurogamer may not be directly reporting Kotaku's story but if they're approaching the same person/people, then it effectively is. Neither news outlet would know and would have no way of verifying it either way short of comparing notes. That's generally the problem with anonymous sources and why I suspect that Eurogamer barely mention them. Being realistic, which is more likely? The same individuals breaking NDA and making bucks off two cashflows or exactly two and only two independent sources choosing to specifically talk to one journalist each? That's possible. Regardless, it makes the news more credible. |
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