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Post by Serza on Jul 8, 2017 20:04:53 GMT
We are go for Operation Panel. I think. No way to know from half the planet away.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 20:05:48 GMT
Nah, it's bad writing, Ryder is immediately treated like the second coming by the general populous and given massive power and responsibility with zero oversight on their first day. Or, in reality: People who know Ryder as the Pathfinder treat them with respect. People who know Ryder as rather unqualified to be the Pathfinder...don't.
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Post by Qolx on Jul 8, 2017 20:10:56 GMT
Hello. We got a redditor at the event that will post any updates to r/masseffect for those asking about "live" updates.
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Post by samhain444 on Jul 8, 2017 20:10:57 GMT
Nah, it's bad writing, Ryder is immediately treated like the second coming by the general populous and given massive power and responsibility with zero oversight on their first day. Or, in reality: People who know Ryder as the Pathfinder treat them with respect. People who know Ryder as rather unqualified to be the Pathfinder...don't. Yeah, the writing is fine-to-very good in both the OT and ME:A
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Post by link2twenty on Jul 8, 2017 20:15:13 GMT
Hello. We got a redditor at the event that will post any updates to r/masseffect for those asking about "live" updates. Is there a post?
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Post by Serza on Jul 8, 2017 20:17:10 GMT
Could use a liason right now.
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Post by ozzie on Jul 8, 2017 20:18:58 GMT
Nah, it's bad writing, Ryder is immediately treated like the second coming by the general populous and given massive power and responsibility with zero oversight on their first day. Or, in reality: People who know Ryder as the Pathfinder treat them with respect. People who know Ryder as rather unqualified to be the Pathfinder...don't. You not seeing the disconnect here between not respecting someone and giving them an irreplaceable one of a kind space ship, several subordinates, full command of colonisation strategy, cryo-reanimation and a carte-blanche to do what ever the hell they want with it?
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Post by sil on Jul 8, 2017 20:19:46 GMT
Hello. We got a redditor at the event that will post any updates to r/masseffect for those asking about "live" updates. Is there a post? I get the impression that there won't be one.
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Post by warrior on Jul 8, 2017 20:19:48 GMT
Hello. We got a redditor at the event that will post any updates to r/masseffect for those asking about "live" updates. LOL of course the first thing you see when you head over there is a MAGA joke, followed by a request not to make MAGA jokes, followed by people fruitlessly arguing with a racist asshole
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Post by kelarqshah on Jul 8, 2017 20:24:28 GMT
Or, in reality: People who know Ryder as the Pathfinder treat them with respect. People who know Ryder as rather unqualified to be the Pathfinder...don't. You not seeing the disconnect here between not respecting someone and giving them an irreplaceable one of a kind space ship, several subordinates, full command of colonisation strategy, cryo-reanimation and a carte-blanche to do what ever the hell they want with it? To be fair, barely anyone on the Nexus is qualified for the jobs they're doing. Anyone who arrived on the Nexus has had like a full year to try their hand at it and have failed. And to beat, you have a SAM implant, have been given the title of Pathfinder by the most experienced explorer in the Initiative, and the Tempest's nav system is keyed to a Pathfinder's implant. I'm not sure it can effectively be piloted without you.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 8, 2017 20:24:44 GMT
Ash in ME1 is a Gunnery Chief. It's an Alliance-specific rank, though considering she's with Alliance Marines, it could be similar to the rank of Gunnery Sergeant (GySgt) of the USMC. Ensign/Lieutenant Junior Grade are US Navy's O-1 and O-2 (Officer) equal to 2LT and 1LT in the Army and Marine Corps. The Navy's rank of Lieutenant is actually correspondent to other branches Captain rank, while Navy's Captain would be on par with a Colonel in other branches. Shepard is a Commander, or Lieutenant Colonel throughout the game. Ashley by ME3 is promoted to the rank of Lieutenant Commander, which is ironic, considering Gunnery Chief sounds more Marine-like. This puts her one rank below Shepard in Alliance chain of command, at rank equal to Major. (Kaidan gets the promotion from Lieutenant to Major, in those exact words) All in all, Ashley would be an E-7 or thereabouts, jumping eight or so ranks. Still, she's quite above Ryders who aren't even in command of a squad far as I can tell. Neither Sara nor Scott probably made it past E-4 (Corporal/Specialist/Petty Officer 3rd Class in USMC/US Army/USN respectively) before the Initiative left the Milky Way. Sheesh, I should probably stop doing these comparisons since the ranks in ME often are chosen to sound cool, not because they make sense - see GyCH Williams becoming a LtCdr. it is one thing in sci fi that has always bothered me. Damn few ranking systems actually are explained and make sense just sort of thrown together. Yeah I agree I just think of it in the same terms of the rank system used in Star Trek because it seems to me that out of all the sci fi shows the ME series rank system seems to mostly resemble Star Trek's which is why I kind of referred to Ryder as mostly an ensign/junior lt rank because that's kind of what they were I think as both were dong mostly low priority jobs within the Alliance Sara looking after the scientists and Scott the Mass Relay. I just find it easier to quantify doing it that way.
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Post by ozzie on Jul 8, 2017 20:30:40 GMT
You not seeing the disconnect here between not respecting someone and giving them an irreplaceable one of a kind space ship, several subordinates, full command of colonisation strategy, cryo-reanimation and a carte-blanche to do what ever the hell they want with it? To be fair, barely anyone on the Nexus is qualified for the jobs they're doing. Anyone who arrived on the Nexus has had like a full year to try their hand at it and have failed. And to beat, you have a SAM implant, have been given the title of Pathfinder by the most experienced explorer in the Initiative, and the Tempest's nav system is keyed to a Pathfinder's implant. I'm not sure it can effectively be piloted without you. So one part desperation, one part nepotism It's still jarring, contrived and could have been done a lot better, another reason they should have kept Ryder Snr around a lot longer than they did. I mean is there any reason why the Nav system is keyed to a pathfinder implant, seems like a dumb idea to send the only person who can navigate your ship away on dangerous missions, potentially stranding the crew in a hostile environment with no hope of rescue, doesn't it?
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I'm actually sitting here refreshing this page....on a Saturday night. Bugger me I have no life.
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Post by LogicGunn on Jul 8, 2017 20:33:27 GMT
I'm actually sitting here refreshing this page....on a Saturday night. Bugger me I have no life. Me too. I wish it streamed.
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Post by sil on Jul 8, 2017 20:33:39 GMT
I'm actually sitting here refreshing this page....on a Saturday night. Bugger me I have no life. Same. It's typical that we don't have anyone at Comic-Con, or at least, no-one has come forward about it.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 8, 2017 20:33:43 GMT
There's no stream and no one from BSN is there, correct?
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Post by llandwynwyn on Jul 8, 2017 20:34:13 GMT
Sorry, I don't have the time to read much of the thread and my eyes are hurting rn, can someone give me an update with what we know or don'? Thank you.
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Post by sil on Jul 8, 2017 20:34:25 GMT
There's no stream and no one from BSN is there, correct? Correct.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 20:34:41 GMT
I'm actually sitting here refreshing this page....on a Saturday night. Bugger me I have no life. Same. It's typical that we don't have anyone at Comic-Con, or at least, no-one has come forward about it. Goddamit BSN. YOU HAD ONE JOB.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 8, 2017 20:35:54 GMT
There's no stream and no one from BSN is there, correct? Correct. Then I doubt they'd make any big announcement under those conditions. Still, I hope they'll prove me wrong.
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Post by bshep on Jul 8, 2017 20:37:02 GMT
Sorry, I don't have the time to read much of the thread and my eyes are hurting rn, can someone give me an update with what we know or don'? Thank you. ZERO NEWS.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 20:37:06 GMT
Which I think is incredibly fitting. Us young folks don't generally respect someone because of a title. No, they have to earn that respect, and Ryder does earn the respect of his/her crew as you advance in the game. What people call "bad writing" is actually "this writing doesn't suit my tastes" and they refuse to see that. Nah, it's bad writing, Ryder is immediately treated like the second coming by the general populous and given massive power and responsibility with zero oversight on their first day. The whole Pathfinder concept is a giant plot hole made even more jarring by the inexperience and attitude of the Ryder character. Even Shepard considered being given command of the Normandy really out of left field, the idea that they would send 'that' crew out unaccompanied in the Tempest is just incredulous. Ryder's youth isn't the issue, loads of games, TV series and movies work just fine with young protagonists when they handle them in a more convincing manner. Bad... in your opinion. An opinion that you perceive as fact. My point still stands as you feed into it. Appreciation of writing is 100% SUBJECTIVE. For example, people rave over HZD, but I laughed at how shite I thought the writing and characters were, but that is an opinion, not fact and I don't claim it to be a fact. The writing in that game did nothing for me, but it obviously did for others. You don't seem to fully grasp the concept of a "plot hole" either as the Pathfinder concept is thought out and explains Ryder's position is given his inexperience. People looked up to him because he is portrayed by the Nexus as their last best hope, and in desperate times, that is a perfectly sound plot point. I can pick out all of the same types of nitpicks in the OT, but I don't because I'm not one of those types of people. All I gleam from your post is more: "I don't subjectively like the writing, so therefore it objectively sucks" and purposefully leaving out key details in order to bolster your narrative. You don't like ME:A's writing? So be it. Just don't be dishonest about it.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 8, 2017 20:38:23 GMT
Same. It's typical that we don't have anyone at Comic-Con, or at least, no-one has come forward about it. Goddamit BSN. YOU HAD ONE JOB. Now we know how Addison feels.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 20:38:25 GMT
Then I doubt they'd make any big announcement under those conditions. Still, I hope they'll prove me wrong. True. But the lack of a mention of DLC at this point might in itself be an admission that there isn't any.
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Post by sil on Jul 8, 2017 20:40:14 GMT
Then I doubt they'd make any big announcement under those conditions. Still, I hope they'll prove me wrong. True. But the lack of a mention of DLC at this point might in itself be an admission that there isn't any. The big guys of Mass Effect Andromeda are turning up to San Diego Comic-Con for something Mass Effect themed. If we hear nothing today, then that is pretty much the last place we will.
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