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Post by Uchimura on Jul 5, 2017 0:44:56 GMT
To start, I'd like to say that part of my ideal expectations for the MP content release have been 'on-track' or in order rather.
At the start of MP we had slots for 6 classes in each rarity tier, one of each archetype.. the standard Soldier, Adept, Sent, etc. This is a bit more loose in the Ultra Rare category, but it still fits. It was known that some of the classes were cut before release, so 2 rare and 2 UR character slots were empty. These were filled and released one by one as new content, but still largely based on the existing assets of the base game, ie. not entirely 'new' content asset-wise.
This previous 'DLC' completed the original format of 6 classes per tier, so if what we got next was more standard Andromeda races, the outlook would not have been very good. Instead we have a fresh Batarian incoming. Looking back to ME3, most DLC packs included 6 characters, one for each archetype. Starting with the Batarian, if we're to also expect 6 characters for this DLC 'cycle', there's still plenty of time before we reach the last two characters (Quarians?). Given that male Quarians filled the role as a separate 'race' release in 3MP, it's possible that Quarians could fill 3 or 4 out of 6 slots, and we'll see them (and SP DLC) sooner rather than later.
Current race balance in MEA: Human - 13 total (6 male/ 7 female) Turian - 3 total (2 male/ 1 female) Salarian - 3 total (3 male) Krogan - 4 total (2 male/ 2 female) Asari - 4 total Angaran - 3 total (2 male/ 1 female)
Other MP thoughts: In the current character selection page, there's enough space to fit 2 more uncommon, 2 rare, and 2 UR, before the page gets 'filled'. This may or may not have any bearing on if any future characters are classified as uncommon.
It's possible we might see another female Turian and Angaran, a Salarian, and a unique male Human at some point if they want to keep including them in future content and balancing male/female ratio per race.
Apologies for my writing style or lack thereof.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 20:50:36 GMT
At this point, all we can do is wait and see.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 5, 2017 23:49:42 GMT
I'm just gonna leave these two charts here:
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 6, 2017 0:51:57 GMT
Did Leviathan take so long because they needed to do the Extended Cut? That's just an unusually long time.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 6, 2017 1:01:09 GMT
Did Leviathan take so long because they needed to do the Extended Cut? That's just an unusually long time. Yep, Extended Cut caused near 2 months delay.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 6, 2017 1:22:37 GMT
Did Leviathan take so long because they needed to do the Extended Cut? That's just an unusually long time. Yep, Extended Cut caused near 2 months delay. I wonder how long the patching process is going to delay the DLC.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 6, 2017 1:26:11 GMT
Yep, Extended Cut caused near 2 months delay. I wonder how long the patching process is going to delay the DLC. its what I'm thinking.
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Post by bakgrind on Jul 6, 2017 1:29:12 GMT
Did Leviathan take so long because they needed to do the Extended Cut? That's just an unusually long time. Yep, Extended Cut caused near 2 months delay. Not trying to derail the thread,but... If Leviathan had been released as a chapter in the main game as regular content there probably would of not needed the Extended cut nor suffer the back lash of the ending since Leviathan pretty much explains it all. Bioware did themselves no favors and doubled down on stupidity by releasing a dlc that helped fortify and explain their ending belief after the fact while having a reputation for being a great story teller.
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 6, 2017 1:30:05 GMT
I wonder how long the patching process is going to delay the DLC. Well, March release and this is early July, and they've updated animations, given us more options in the CC, and a bi Jaal. That's quite a lot, and most of what they've offered has been fan request. Maybe they're finally able to get to work on finishing the DLC now. 😎
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 6, 2017 1:31:38 GMT
I wonder how long the patching process is going to delay the DLC. Well, March release and this is early July, and they've updated animations, given us more options in the CC, and a bi Jaal. That's quite a lot, and most of what they've offered has been fan request. Maybe they're finally able to get to work on finishing the DLC now. 😎 same line of thinking.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 6, 2017 1:34:25 GMT
As i said for that very reason expecting October on dlc.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 6, 2017 1:36:55 GMT
As i said for that very reason expecting October on dlc. October is better than November and so much better than never. In October, I'll be in the boonies dang it. I'll be in the most remote areas. Dang it. Dang it. Dang it.
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 6, 2017 1:37:33 GMT
As i said for that very reason expecting October on dlc. Here's hoping! 🍻
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 1:42:27 GMT
They downsized the studio to work on other projects, right? It makes sense that all they'll release are patches and small DLC.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 1:43:24 GMT
I think the latest it will arrive is September 1st. That's when the tie-in novel Mass Effect: Annihilation, formerly called "The Lost Ark", will be released.
They've yet to reveal the cover of Annihilation, and I'm betting it's to avoid spoiling the quarian plot in the game.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 1:45:00 GMT
They downsized the studio to work on other projects, right? It makes sense that all they'll release are patches and small DLC. A portion of every game's development team being assigned to other projects while a small team remains on post-launch support and DLC is the norm. It's exactly what BioWare's done with every other game's DLC and support, so don't let pretend-reporters con you into thinking that's a sign of doom and gloom.
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 6, 2017 2:01:02 GMT
Not trying to derail the thread,but... If Leviathan had been released as a chapter in the main game as regular content there probably would of not needed the Extended cut nor suffer the back lash of the ending since Leviathan pretty much explains it all. Bioware did themselves no favors and doubled down on stupidity by releasing a dlc that helped fortify and explain their ending belief after the fact while having a reputation for being a great story teller. Is it possible that Leviathan was cut content? I'm pretty sure Javik was, but not sure about Leviathan. If the Quarian Ark is cut content, then they probably have most of the assets and voicework ready.
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Post by kino on Jul 6, 2017 2:02:00 GMT
Yep, Extended Cut caused near 2 months delay. I wonder how long the patching process is going to delay the DLC. A patch that required new dialog and additional scenes, no less.
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Post by malgus on Jul 6, 2017 2:02:11 GMT
Did Leviathan take so long because they needed to do the Extended Cut? That's just an unusually long time. And we should never forget that if Bioware wants to make a huge dlc like jaws of hakon, that shall require more ressources and more time than Leviathan. The extended cut took 3 months and a half to do (ME 3 was released beginning of march 2012 and the EC was released 26 june 2012). Considering jaws of hakon took 4 months to do and the huge patch of andromeda up until 1.08 took 2 months and a half, we may have to wait 6 or even 7 months after the initial release for mass effect andromeda dlc, so it maybe in september or october at maybe at the end of each of those months, depending on what they are planning.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 2:03:35 GMT
I think Sept would be the absolute latest.
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Post by malgus on Jul 6, 2017 2:04:39 GMT
Not trying to derail the thread,but... If Leviathan had been released as a chapter in the main game as regular content there probably would of not needed the Extended cut nor suffer the back lash of the ending since Leviathan pretty much explains it all. Bioware did themselves no favors and doubled down on stupidity by releasing a dlc that helped fortify and explain their ending belief after the fact while having a reputation for being a great story teller. Is it possible that Leviathan was cut content? I'm pretty sure Javik was, but not sure about Leviathan. If the Quarian Ark is cut content, then they probably have most of the assets and voicework ready. No it was not Leviathan was not cut content, it was based on an ending that had to be written in a snaps of a finger and Bioware had to cut content they already wanted to make like the palaven mission that we shall never see . That said javik was indeed cut content for preorder dlc,
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 2:19:49 GMT
Not trying to derail the thread,but... If Leviathan had been released as a chapter in the main game as regular content there probably would of not needed the Extended cut nor suffer the back lash of the ending since Leviathan pretty much explains it all. Bioware did themselves no favors and doubled down on stupidity by releasing a dlc that helped fortify and explain their ending belief after the fact while having a reputation for being a great story teller. Is it possible that Leviathan was cut content? I'm pretty sure Javik was, but not sure about Leviathan. If the Quarian Ark is cut content, then they probably have most of the assets and voicework ready. The way they teased it at the end (quarian ark) seems very strategic so it is possible that it was at least partially done rather than cut. They might have cut aspects of it if it was mean to be finished and didn't make it then they decided to tease it at the end instead. That could be very likely. It always seemed rather odd to me that the quarians and other races were not included then became DLC. When you think about it, how do they not include this race that was part of everything from ME1 on - as a crew member and having aspects of the story revolve to some degree around them history wise. That they were not included initially seems completely bizarre.
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 6, 2017 2:35:31 GMT
No it was not Leviathan was not cut content, it was based on an ending that had to be written in a snaps of a finger and Bioware had to cut content they already wanted to make like the palaven mission that we shall never see . That said javik was indeed cut content for preorder dlc, Wait, there was supposed to be a Palaven mission? That would have been awesome. Much as I like Leviathan, I would have loved to see Palaven.
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Post by malgus on Jul 6, 2017 2:52:20 GMT
No it was not Leviathan was not cut content, it was based on an ending that had to be written in a snaps of a finger and Bioware had to cut content they already wanted to make like the palaven mission that we shall never see . That said javik was indeed cut content for preorder dlc, Wait, there was supposed to be a Palaven mission? That would have been awesome. Much as I like Leviathan, I would have loved to see Palaven. Yep but there was a ridiculous deadline made sure we could not have it, its quite a shame
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jul 6, 2017 5:02:33 GMT
At this point I am not going to torture myself waiting for SP DLC. If we do get some I get to pleasently surprised
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