Concussive, Siphon and Bulwark

So does anyone know what the ranks do? Rank I of any of these matches Rank X in damage of the standard ones so they're usable off the bat. Just makes the ability stronger I guess? There's no actual stat to show that.

I was too at first, (more like incredulous) but ..

un-commons also. A slight positive it gets most of the player base a chance to play with the three new effects without the huge all UR weapons at X prerequisite ..
And this huge gold card bloat might still be quicker to complete than getting the pre-1.09 UR cards to X ..
After that comes getting the billion new URs to X but - that is still an OPTION for the more "dedicated" members of the community who were sitting on maxed manifests for quite a while.. You really don't want those kind of customers to move on to other things because of lack of collectibles ..

Looks like I'll be buying a lot of Expert packs to max out the new rares.

My mind is simply blown away.

Oh wow.. in full detail too. Thanks

No.

There's only one rank on these new ones and that's like the rank X of the base weapon.

Also, I have a hunch you can only get them when you have rank X of the base weapon (this is just a guess, but having rank I specs = rank X specs means getting these new ones would utterly bypass the need to rank up weapons if they did it any other way).

Edit: or maybe their stats track the base weapon? I have not gotten any yet, though, for non-X weapons, but maybe someone else has?

Further edit: apparently they do rank up, these new weapons - and they rank ups do not change base weapon stats, the change their new variant stat. Or, so I have been told.

Didn't someone here already own a Siphon Shadow IV? That would unfortunately indicate they do go up to X individually.

And I think the devs stated on Reddit that there is a "chance" to get a variant of a weapon even though you don't yet have it maxed or even own it. That at least shoud be taken out of the game.

Variants should ONLY drop if the corresponding base version is at X. That would be the fairest solution to this problem, maybe?  

As people have said, having 1 card of each weapon wouldn't have been too horrible.... but 10 cards for each variant, 30 cards total FOR ALL GUNS is absurd.

I used the highest Siphon gun I got yesterday (Talon 3), and barely noticed any health return/regen on gold. Obviously that's not a level 10 gun, but the rate of health returning is minimal. Didn't use it on Platinum, stuck with the normal PAW for the no ammo Apex mission.

You also seem to have to max out your ENTIRE rarity bracket in order to get a variant. I spent 13 million credits in the store, and got the Kishock 10 before ever seeing a UR variant. Not sure if others had to go through that, but it seems the store will only start giving the variants once you have all the other guns at level 10.

My rares were already maxed, so I was getting rare gun variants right away in my drops. But the UR variants didn't drop until the Kishock was level 10.

No, nonono.

Too many variables!

TOO MANY VARIABLES!!

Would you taking and sharing pics of your manifest as proof of a relatively high number of variants, with missing non-variants?

So basically complaints are about amount of hours that collectionists will have to spend to satisfy their sick grinding mania. Lol. Like someone cares or should care.