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Post by xujparisipc on Jul 6, 2017 18:25:13 GMT
So just finished my first platinum PUG match.
137k credits, 220k xp (no booster), ~19 min. APEX Go for the eyes. Pretty good team. (this was second attempt, first failed on 2nd wave when PUGS didn't leave me alone (infiltrator) to upload and mission was doomed due to that).
I like it.
With infiltrator it feels easier than ME3 platinum, but for power based classes might be different story as much less cover.
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Post by guanxi on Jul 6, 2017 18:31:27 GMT
First take: Uploads are horrendous. Rockets are worthless, revives are a death sentence. I might try it again with tactical cloak but it needs some serious balance changes before it's remotely playable for me.
Second take: All tactical cloak stealth grid team with hurricanes and it was easy as pie, extracted twice. The hardest part is filling the lobby with people who aren't terrible.
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Post by CHRrOME on Jul 6, 2017 18:35:32 GMT
I wouldn't dare PUGing Platinum, even Gold with PUGs is hearth attack after hearth attack at times. Plat is definitely a "go with your friends or die" difficulty level.
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Post by xujparisipc on Jul 6, 2017 18:37:40 GMT
3rd attempt, failed again. Duelist and Turian soldier camping in the upload zone and attracting all the enemies.
Its gonna be painful with this new upload when enemies interupt it and so many players are just blind to see what they doing.
Basically now its not worth to play platinum without 2 infiltrators unless you know the team.
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Post by zan on Jul 6, 2017 18:39:47 GMT
Let the people without stealth who go into upload/hack zones bleed out after the first try. Or pray you get devices/recovery. And yes, stealth classes seem to be nearly a must.
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Post by xujparisipc on Jul 6, 2017 18:44:20 GMT
btw wave 6 on the apex is devices but 30 sec, for each. 4th targets but 1st two are not bosses.
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Post by janoy on Jul 6, 2017 18:44:54 GMT
Let the people without stealth who go into upload/hack zones bleed out after the first try. Or pray you get devices/recovery. And yes, stealth classes seem to be nearly a must. If only they did bleed out... My last try had hack on 4th wave and even after i asked them to leave the hack area they insisted on luring every boss in there, kept reviving eachother aswell. Either stupid or the push to talk isn't working. As for upload i didn't have an issue yet since it splits the enemy it's much easier.
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Post by Fly In The Lotion on Jul 6, 2017 18:49:57 GMT
Zero is easily farmable. Upload feels easier now than the hack. A kit with aegis shield or TC/SG doesn't hurt.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 6, 2017 18:52:54 GMT
Just finished mine, first try. With PUGs. Go For The Eyes makes it easy, curious to see how it is with no modifiers. Had no real difficulty, it's the same as Gold pretty much if you're a good player. LOL at all the people (and devs) who are like OMG IT'S GONNA BE SO HERD YALL i.imgur.com/bSFaTtQ.pngThe top scorer there had HumInt at XX, so that probably helped.
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Post by dariat on Jul 6, 2017 19:01:00 GMT
I failed my second attempt in round 7. it's the same as Gold pretty much if you're a good player. LOL at all the people (and devs) who are like OMG IT'S GONNA BE SO HERD YALL Same as gold? Is this a joke? I have to empty my clip a few times so I can kill a Destroyer. Also, running out of cover is a death sentence. Try defending a Hacking zone with destroyers, hydras and Observers hoarding your way. Score whoring is pretty much over in platinum, you either stick with your team or you die.
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Post by jloco11 on Jul 6, 2017 19:01:52 GMT
I think people have to keep in mind, that players are not fully maxed out yet (again).
With the added cards, guns etc... we're going to get stronger and get some cool perks on guns to help with the challenging stuff. It's like hitting level 20 on a character without all the cards and going into gold right away with a level 7 Avenger. That shit was a pain.
But with all the cards (and skill points to use) and harder hitting weapons, then gold became much easier. Right now though, it's a learning curve and loot curve until people collect some better shit.
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Post by dariat on Jul 6, 2017 19:05:43 GMT
I think people have to keep in mind, that players are not fully maxed out yet (again). With the added cards, guns etc... we're going to get stronger and get some cool perks on guns to help with the challenging stuff. It's like hitting level 20 on a character without all the cards and going into gold right away with a level 7 Avenger. That shit was a pain. But with all the cards (and skill points to use) and harder hitting weapons, then gold became much easier. Right now though, it's a learning curve and loot curve until people collect some better shit. I don't think it will make much of a difference. Even with all the cards, the enemies are insanely resilient. I feel like my Hurricane barely scratches them.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 6, 2017 19:09:17 GMT
I failed my second attempt in round 7. it's the same as Gold pretty much if you're a good player. LOL at all the people (and devs) who are like OMG IT'S GONNA BE SO HERD YALL Same as gold? Is this a joke? I have to empty my clip a few times so I can kill a Destroyer. Also, running out of cover is a death sentence. Try defending a Hacking zone with destroyers, hydras and Observers hoarding your way. Score whoring is pretty much over in platinum, you either stick with your team or you die. Maybe you have a shitty manifest? Or just aren't very good. I mean, 17:30 extraction on mine with a PUG (no communications active, either) and we had just about the same amount of downs as a Gold match. I think I only used 3 revives and one was a ragegel. And you can see one of ours was a total carry. I'll try some regular matches later instead of the APEX, but I doubt it's gonna be much different. Bring a good kit and a good weapon and git gud. Donezo.
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Post by xujparisipc on Jul 6, 2017 19:14:09 GMT
It's definitely harder than gold. It has that me3 thing - mistakes cost a lot in this one. So yes if you play well it might look easy. But it can quickly turn into disaster here. So happy about that
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Post by dariat on Jul 6, 2017 19:17:03 GMT
I failed my second attempt in round 7. Same as gold? Is this a joke? I have to empty my clip a few times so I can kill a Destroyer. Also, running out of cover is a death sentence. Try defending a Hacking zone with destroyers, hydras and Observers hoarding your way. Score whoring is pretty much over in platinum, you either stick with your team or you die. Maybe you have a shitty manifest? Or just aren't very good. I mean, 17:30 extraction on mine with a PUG (no communications active, either) and we had just about the same amount of downs as a Gold match. I think I only used 3 revives and one was a ragegel. And you can see one of ours was a total carry. I'll try some regular matches later instead of the APEX, but I doubt it's gonna be much different. Bring a good kit and a good weapon and git gud. Donezo. Have you even fought with purple Destroyers? It's ridiculous to compare them with gold Destroyers.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 6, 2017 19:18:47 GMT
Maybe you have a shitty manifest? Or just aren't very good. I mean, 17:30 extraction on mine with a PUG (no communications active, either) and we had just about the same amount of downs as a Gold match. I think I only used 3 revives and one was a ragegel. And you can see one of ours was a total carry. I'll try some regular matches later instead of the APEX, but I doubt it's gonna be much different. Bring a good kit and a good weapon and git gud. Donezo. Have you even fought with purple Destroyers? It's ridiculous to compare them with gold Destroyers. Again, I don't know what to tell ya. They died just fine in my game. Not instantly, but we didn't really struggle. ed: Also, as I mentioned in my first comment, this is from a certain perspective. I've soloed Gold with several kits, no mods no boosters, so that's where I'm coming from. You put a team together of people like that, it's all over.
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Post by jloco11 on Jul 6, 2017 19:19:08 GMT
I think people have to keep in mind, that players are not fully maxed out yet (again). With the added cards, guns etc... we're going to get stronger and get some cool perks on guns to help with the challenging stuff. It's like hitting level 20 on a character without all the cards and going into gold right away with a level 7 Avenger. That shit was a pain. But with all the cards (and skill points to use) and harder hitting weapons, then gold became much easier. Right now though, it's a learning curve and loot curve until people collect some better shit. I don't think it will make much of a difference. Even with all the cards, the enemies are insanely resilient. I feel like my Hurricane barely scratches them. Does the Hurricane come in the 3 new flavors of weapons though? The one that heals you or adds damage resistance? At least if the gun is barely hitting them, you have the ability to add some passives. And I think that Veteran bonus crap, is mostly power damages like combos, melees and powers. It didn't do much for weapons.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 19:23:58 GMT
I have to wonder whether making regular platinum Apex missions was the right way to go.
Apex missions draw players to difficulties they're not really prepared for. I'm sure we've all seen our share of rank 1 level 1 soldiers bearing avengers in gold Apex missions. With one or two good players, those other really low levels can usually be carried through gold, but platinum? I guess we'll see...
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Post by Fly In The Lotion on Jul 6, 2017 19:29:12 GMT
Again, it's not hard at all, the only challenging part is if you get hack, because Cobras don't deal any damage. Still manageable, the only option I see to potentially fail is if you get 3xhacks/uploads, whatever.
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Post by dragaaan on Jul 6, 2017 19:45:08 GMT
i played two pugs with my asari sentinel and it was really fun. backlash is just amazing in platinum. everyhting kills itself and it gives you some great survivability combine that with a hurricane and explosions everywhere and she is imo a very strong non cloak character
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 6, 2017 19:51:59 GMT
Anyone try Barricade with 6(whatever) Electric Defense? I am curious if it's still useful? Or too many bosses plowing it down?
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Post by xujparisipc on Jul 6, 2017 20:00:02 GMT
Will try Krogan Vanguard soon
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Post by dariat on Jul 6, 2017 20:01:40 GMT
Anyone try Barricade with 6(whatever) Electric Defense? I am curious if it's still useful? Or too many bosses plowing it down? Still useful for priming and covering. Bosses are slow and by the time they reach me, I move to another place. Besides, in Platinum you need all the cover you can get. Will try Krogan Vanguard soon Try it if you wanna be on the floor all the time.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 6, 2017 20:04:05 GMT
Second verse, same as the first. I think a well-coordinated team would be able to get down to 15 minutes or so, probably even less once Veteran ranks and all the special weapons (ugh) are done. Of course their Gold clear time would be less, but not half as fast, meaning the best payout would be Plat. i.imgur.com/OYt1qgd.png
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Post by Transcended One on Jul 6, 2017 20:05:28 GMT
It was challenging, but I managed fine my first try with pugs on that Apex:
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