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Post by kpeter on Jul 7, 2017 11:38:47 GMT
The constant whine is really sad. No matter what BW does. I know, sometimes there is the whine, that is justified, but i think this is clearly not the case. Does every game have to end with full extraction? I also failed some hack objectives, so what? It is part of the game. Live with it, deal with it. Especially if playing with pugs. I actually agree with the BW dev's. It is platinum, it is meant to be challenging. Maybe it also requires a different approach. I played it with TSol with the heaviest hitting guns. It was not enough by hack objectives against the horde of berserkers. So yeah, it needs a different approach/tactics as the BW developer stated on Twitter. First obvious choice is electric barricade for stuns and combos. Second obvious choice is more AOE and more stun. More combos, more stun. Or is it? Maybe first obvious choice is the new Supply Pack Transmitter. Increases the radius of the Cobra RPG by 50%, duplicates the effects of First Aid, Revive Packs, and Ammo Packs to teammates within 10 meters. This seems be too good to pass. Or we need better team synergy. There are just too many things that we didn't even try yet. It's just one day since platinum was introduced. It's too early to call out for a straight reverse. Give it time folks, i'm sure we will find out eventually. ME3 Plat was also hard at first. Later we got players that could solo it sub 20 minutes. We don't even know the wave budget and what type of enemies spawn in each waves. We know nothing It is obvious there are some difficulties in the beginning.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jul 7, 2017 11:46:30 GMT
This definitely needed a new thread.
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Post by kpeter on Jul 7, 2017 11:54:22 GMT
This definitely needed a new thread. Like the whiners needed theirs..
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jul 7, 2017 11:59:23 GMT
This definitely needed a new thread. Like the whiners needed theirs.. Where are all these whiny threads about platinum? There's literally just one, and it has a specific point. This however is a "look at me" thread. Your "opinion" is not important enough to warrant one.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jul 7, 2017 12:01:38 GMT
I only see one thread that mentions Platinum, but it actually complains about the Hack, not the difficulty. What threads are you talking about? O.o
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jul 7, 2017 12:04:50 GMT
I only see one thread that mentions Platinum, but it actually complains about the Hack, not the difficulty. What threads are you talking about? O.o Exactly. As a matter of fact, most people are happy about platinum if I've been reading correctly.
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Post by Fly In The Lotion on Jul 7, 2017 12:07:08 GMT
The problem is, hack makes lower difficulties significantly harder too. And most working people don't have the time or the energy to gather friends with mics from 3 different time zones, so PUG it is. Also, those motherfucking Blaze Hydras and pumped up Destroyers are coming with the speed of a Sharpshooter on crack and there's no option to stagger them, not even with Cobras. Bioware decided to change the hack, sure, but some situations are just impossible and have nothing to do with skill but sheer luck. It'd be different if we could stun bosses, like in ME3 - shooting the Atlases in the balls or the Praetorians in the belly to expose the skeletons to make them stop and roll. But in this game, you absolutely cannot stagger any armored enemy.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jul 7, 2017 12:07:47 GMT
I only see one thread that mentions Platinum, but it actually complains about the Hack, not the difficulty. What threads are you talking about? O.o Exactly. As a matter of fact, most people are happy about platinum if I've been reading correctly. They seem to be. I'm avoiding it like the plague, but I know my limits (especially of my sanity.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 12:09:50 GMT
Whining is always at it's peak in the first few days, then people get used to the new stuff, and it goes down. If it does not though, then it is symptomatic of serious issues.
it is absolutely guaranteed that any update that resets the goal posts will generate a pushback, as peeps will always feel that their achievements are being devaluated.
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Post by jmac1424 on Jul 7, 2017 12:11:14 GMT
Outside of hack, I've not seen much, if any, complaining. I've not read ever single post on here in the past 24 hours either. But, for "new lolcontent," that's a different story...
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Post by kpeter on Jul 7, 2017 12:16:30 GMT
The problem is, hack makes lower difficulties significantly harder too. And most working people don't have the time or the energy to gather friends with mics from 3 different time zones, so PUG it is. Also, those motherfucking Blaze Hydras and pumped up Destroyers are coming with the speed of a Sharpshooter on crack and there's no option to stagger them, not even with Cobras. Bioware decided to change the hack, sure, but some situations are just impossible and have nothing to do with skill but sheer luck. It'd be different if we could stun bosses, like in ME3 - shooting the Atlases in the balls or the Praetorians in the belly to expose the skeletons to make them stop and roll. But in this game, you absolutely cannot stagger any armored enemy. I am also a working man. With lots of weekend and night on call duties. Actually i was laughing my ass off when i first saw a Hydra charging at me. We can't stun bosses you are right. But we can stun berserkers, they are also armored.
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Post by kpeter on Jul 7, 2017 12:19:17 GMT
I only see one thread that mentions Platinum, but it actually complains about the Hack, not the difficulty. What threads are you talking about? O.o I wasn't accurate enough with the title. I meant obviously plat hack. Sorry it is my bad.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jul 7, 2017 12:22:01 GMT
Still seems like an overreaction to me, but hardly the biggest one I'll see today, so carry on.
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Post by Fly In The Lotion on Jul 7, 2017 12:24:25 GMT
The problem is, hack makes lower difficulties significantly harder too. And most working people don't have the time or the energy to gather friends with mics from 3 different time zones, so PUG it is. Also, those motherfucking Blaze Hydras and pumped up Destroyers are coming with the speed of a Sharpshooter on crack and there's no option to stagger them, not even with Cobras. Bioware decided to change the hack, sure, but some situations are just impossible and have nothing to do with skill but sheer luck. It'd be different if we could stun bosses, like in ME3 - shooting the Atlases in the balls or the Praetorians in the belly to expose the skeletons to make them stop and roll. But in this game, you absolutely cannot stagger any armored enemy. I am also a working man. With lots of weekend and night on call duties. Actually i was laughing my ass off when i first saw a Hydra charging at me. We can't stun berserkers you are right. But we can stun berserkers, they are also armored. Wut?
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jul 7, 2017 12:25:16 GMT
I only see one thread that mentions Platinum, but it actually complains about the Hack, not the difficulty. What threads are you talking about? O.o I wasn't accurate enough with the title. I meant obviously plat hack. Sorry it is my bad. So we've established there was one thread complaining about plat hacks. Why did this need to be it's own thread again?
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Post by kpeter on Jul 7, 2017 12:28:15 GMT
Sorry, double edited post and screwed it up
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Post by kpeter on Jul 7, 2017 12:31:09 GMT
I wasn't accurate enough with the title. I meant obviously plat hack. Sorry it is my bad. So we've established there was one thread complaining about plat hacks. Why did this need to be it's own thread again? ... When i opened the forum half of the page was different compliants. But this is getting boring. I pm'd mods to erase this thread.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jul 7, 2017 12:31:35 GMT
So we've established there was one thread complaining about plat hacks. Why did this need to be it's own thread again? ... When i opened the forum half of the page was different compliants. But this is getting boring. I pm'd mods to erase this thread. Good.
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Post by kpeter on Jul 7, 2017 12:33:02 GMT
... When i opened the forum half of the page was different compliants. But this is getting boring. I pm'd mods to erase this thread. Good. I hope when we see other threads that aren't anything else then memes pages after pages you will be so active aswell.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jul 7, 2017 12:35:29 GMT
I hope when we see other threads that aren't anything else then memes pages after pages you will be so active aswell. I do my bit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 12:57:56 GMT
The problem is, hack makes lower difficulties significantly harder too. And most working people don't have the time or the energy to gather friends with mics from 3 different time zones, so PUG it is. Also, those motherfucking Blaze Hydras and pumped up Destroyers are coming with the speed of a Sharpshooter on crack and there's no option to stagger them, not even with Cobras. Bioware decided to change the hack, sure, but some situations are just impossible and have nothing to do with skill but sheer luck. It'd be different if we could stun bosses, like in ME3 - shooting the Atlases in the balls or the Praetorians in the belly to expose the skeletons to make them stop and roll. But in this game, you absolutely cannot stagger any armored enemy. Lower difficulties might get significantly easier with Level X+ characters and weapon variants I'd think - once enough Pugs get their hands on those.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 13:01:23 GMT
The only big problems are the hack and dilluted unlocks. Hacks should only stop/slow down if there are say 3 enemies in the zone. That balances it out while still making it winnable and not an exercise in frustration. Played plat Apex mission and I had a blast. But that character card and 50 Shades of Gun concept has got to go. Limit cards to X and use the character bonus XP for the Veteran bonus. Give each additional gun type 1 card and 1 card only. Rather than getting Hesh Concussive X just make it Hesh Concussive and that's it. Once those are taken care of, the game is aces for me.
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Post by vanshishogaku on Jul 7, 2017 13:11:29 GMT
Thread is just all right. Don't even start whining, appreciate the dev's work! I am enthusiastic about MEA multi again! Sure it's gonna be tweaked.
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Post by SalMasRac on Jul 7, 2017 13:41:56 GMT
Stop whining about whiners already, it's just day one
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