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Post by n7vorcha on Jul 7, 2017 15:01:14 GMT
There, I said it.
Platinum difficulty actually makes me want to play this game again. No longer is there a 99% chance that every mission will be completed with a half assed effort with 3 PUG's. I'm not bad at the multiplayer, but I am not one of the best either, and Platinum difficulty is actually making me think tactically about going into every match, making it more intense and far more exciting than the average gold game. More importantly though is the credits, 100k + credits for completing a game is a real incentive for me as it means I can purchase a premium pack every 20 or so minutes.
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Post by TormDK on Jul 7, 2017 15:04:28 GMT
Yeah, just played my first one and did the extract. 32 minutes for 142K credits puts it as a little slower than your standard Gold grind, but it was much more fun.
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Post by colonelkungpao on Jul 7, 2017 15:17:16 GMT
Downloaded the update but didn't get to play. What's the XP payout on Platinum?
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Post by n7vorcha on Jul 7, 2017 15:18:53 GMT
Downloaded the update but didn't get to play. What's the XP payout on Platinum? I got 125k for one yesteday, but I can't remember if it was an APEX mission or not
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 7, 2017 15:24:44 GMT
Counterpoint: Platinum is not awesome.
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Post by vanelsa on Jul 7, 2017 15:25:40 GMT
Devs said they were going to be adding 11 waves to missions too? That will make Platinum even more difficult and challenging. Bioware is going to have to up our max consumables to 6 like they did at the tail end of ME3MP support.
I try to play the game like with the One Life to Live modifier on. Just be extra careful, use cover, and run/regroup a lot.
As I build my manifest back up (to the Rares at least), I might be playing more Gold with PUGs, but Platinum is something I’ll do with a good group. Just finished the APEX mission on Remnant (no resupply boxes) with my Huntress. Had just two stealth grids and one medigel at extraction time. Just enough to get us full extraction.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jul 7, 2017 15:56:46 GMT
Tried it again just now after the farce that was yesterday. It can be cool when you're with friends, but with PUGs, no thanks.
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Post by gethadept on Jul 7, 2017 15:58:24 GMT
Yeah, just played my first one and did the extract. 32 minutes for 142K credits puts it as a little slower than your standard Gold grind, but it was much more fun. 32 minutes? Dude...... :DD:
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 7, 2017 15:59:30 GMT
Yeah, just played my first one and did the extract. 32 minutes for 142K credits puts it as a little slower than your standard Gold grind, but it was much more fun. 32 minutes? Dude...... :DD: counter point, all of my runs (with pugs and no communications) have been 18-20 minutes.
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Post by n7vorcha on Jul 7, 2017 16:00:54 GMT
Counterpoint: Platinum is not awesome. Have you tried not playing it?
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Post by TormDK on Jul 7, 2017 16:06:39 GMT
Yeah, just played my first one and did the extract. 32 minutes for 142K credits puts it as a little slower than your standard Gold grind, but it was much more fun. 32 minutes? Dude...... :DD: Truth be told, I didn't expect to be able to PUG a Platinum game, but we were - so I'll take that win Will be interesting if I could get the Raptor up to X Siphon how it does. I see that the assault rifles are still mostly crap.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 7, 2017 16:07:08 GMT
Counterpoint: Platinum is not awesome. Have you tried not playing it? Me not playing doesn't change whether it sucks or not.
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Post by n7vorcha on Jul 7, 2017 16:12:40 GMT
Have you tried not playing it? Me not playing doesn't change whether it sucks or not. So either you do play it and you don't like it, or you don't play it and therefore wouldn't know whether it was good or not?
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Post by LRX/SRT17 on Jul 7, 2017 16:50:40 GMT
I tried it yesterday with friends. I agree with most, I don't think it would be playable with pugs. However, the game felt more tedious than hard, with all those bullet sponges. After the first wave and all the shooting and powers, the game started to seem repetitive and boring, IMHO..happy for those who can still enjoy this game and wish I could my get my money's worth out of this game like they do.
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Post by ochadd on Jul 7, 2017 18:46:24 GMT
I still prefer gold for now. Extracted on the first try with PUGs last night. All were 12-20k apex. Lots of consumables and 2 cloak users.
The cobra missile nerf is just silly as hell. The running Hydra is pretty awesome and really got the adrenaline flowing the first time I saw it. The device timeout is too short now imho.
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Post by biotichazard on Jul 7, 2017 22:16:15 GMT
I reinstalled the game to see if platinum was worth playing. I hadn't played for 5 weeks. Surprisingly, the first handful of games only resulted in 50% extraction. It appears that every team needs at least one infiltrator. After about 10 games, I was able to get 100% extraction afterwards. Not sure if it was the team I was on or people got the hang of platinum. These were all PUGs and no need for cheats. This is my observations.
The new veteran status and new gun modifiers definitely helps a lot. It appears the concussive guns quite good. I have two, Black Widow and Equalizer, and they did quite well on Platinum.
Overall, I'd say Platinum is worth playing, but it's still not perfect. I like the new Behemoth and the observer spawning destroyer and fast moving atlas. Those are new wrinkles that adds some flavor. It's still not the same as running from multiple banshees or phantoms, but it's better than the passive bullet sponges we had before. Oh, and the Ascendant is still a punk you can slap down really easily. Now, that we got snap freeze back, I've seen him scurrying off to find a hiding place.
Guns I found useful: PAW, Black Widow Concussive, Equalizer Concussive, Hurricane, and Piranha. I only have the regular shadow and BW definitely gimped it with a long cool down.
So far, I like the Turian Soldier, Salarian Operative, and Batarian Scrapper on platinum, but I haven't played enough yet. Really glad they brought back snap freeze. Snap freeze + concussive shot isn't as awesome as snap freeze + overload, but I'll take it.
Oh, one last thing, dogs are even more annoying. They can kill you from behind without you knowing it and without grabbing you.
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Jul 7, 2017 23:40:11 GMT
How I feel about MEA after they implemented patch 1.09...
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Post by biotichazard on Jul 8, 2017 0:00:48 GMT
Platinum is definitely playable with PUGs... if you're good and they're not an APEX 200 or something really low. I took a lvl 11 Batarian Scrapper VIII into a platinum and we all extracted. It's all about how you play and your team dynamics. I actually wanted to take a lvl 1 Batarian Scrapper I into platinum, but given how new Platinum is, I assume everyone would freak out and kick me out the lobby so I had to slum it in a few gold matches to bring him up a few levels .
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Post by biotichazard on Jul 8, 2017 0:04:55 GMT
btw, it doesn't seem Platinum gives you much more if any XP over gold. I used to take my lvl 1 characters into ME3 MP platinum to rank them up quicker. MEA doesn't seem to give the huge XP boost like ME3.
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Post by kalas on Jul 8, 2017 0:05:40 GMT
moar credits is always nice.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jul 8, 2017 0:07:21 GMT
I played lots of Platinum already outside of APEX and some Batarain leveling up once I got him, and I enjoyed it much more then Gold.
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Post by biotichazard on Jul 8, 2017 0:17:16 GMT
I will give this advice to those who want to play platinum for credits but have really low APEX. Don't do it.
It's fun if you can handle it, but it's a lot harder so you may end up playing a lot longer game. If you're looking to get credits, you must consider the CREDITS/MINUTE ratio. If your platinum game become 30 mins+ then it's not a good payout, esp if you do not extract. There are a lot of destroyers and atlases that have incredible amounts of shield and armor. I got on a PUG team anchored by me and another guy with APEX 30k, and we all had either a PAW or Shadow last night. We were all focused on taking down the bosses together, and it took longer to take down a boss with 4 PAW/Shadow than it would take me to take down a boss by myself on gold.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 8, 2017 0:25:44 GMT
I will give this advice to those who want to play platinum for credits but have really low APEX. Don't do it. It's fun if you can handle it, but it's a lot harder so you may end up playing a lot longer game. If you're looking to get credits, you must consider the CREDITS/MINUTE ratio. If your platinum game become 30 mins+ then it's not a good payout, esp if you do not extract. There are a lot of destroyers and atlases that have incredible amounts of shield and armor. I got on a PUG team anchored by me and another guy with APEX 30k, and we all had either a PAW or Shadow last night. We were all focused on taking down the bosses together, and it took longer to take down a boss with 4 PAW/Shadow than it would take me to take down a boss by myself on gold. I mean, the PAW is not a high DPS weapon... It's just a priming tool.
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Post by Pearl on Jul 8, 2017 0:31:44 GMT
Platinum is, for the moment, more enjoyable to me than it was in ME3. Whether that's because I actually like it, or it's just the "honeymoon period" talking remains to be seen.
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Post by biotichazard on Jul 8, 2017 0:31:54 GMT
I will give this advice to those who want to play platinum for credits but have really low APEX. Don't do it. It's fun if you can handle it, but it's a lot harder so you may end up playing a lot longer game. If you're looking to get credits, you must consider the CREDITS/MINUTE ratio. If your platinum game become 30 mins+ then it's not a good payout, esp if you do not extract. There are a lot of destroyers and atlases that have incredible amounts of shield and armor. I got on a PUG team anchored by me and another guy with APEX 30k, and we all had either a PAW or Shadow last night. We were all focused on taking down the bosses together, and it took longer to take down a boss with 4 PAW/Shadow than it would take me to take down a boss by myself on gold. I mean, the PAW is not a high DPS weapon... It's just a priming tool. The mechanics of the PAW is great. It's got good reach, fully automatic, doesn't run out of ammo (which is great on Platinum), and a pretty decently fast reload/cool down. With the nerfed shadow now, I can't stand it's cooldown. I'm going to try some of my other favorite guns soon... like the Inferno and Dhan.
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