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Post by copper on Jan 25, 2019 18:14:45 GMT
All of the above is why I made my spreadsheet. I was loosing my mind trying to get everything to fit, so had to make a visual representation in order to keep order of my different ideas. While my canon state is pretty set, I have also had trouble deciding which PC's goes with which LI and which decisions. Also, in my Elvhen Glory state, I'd really like for my Dalish warden to have a regular baby with Morrigan, but I also want Alistair to be king alone and Morrigan to be happy with her very much alive warden . I am settling for an OG baby, but I like the idea of a regular family happy ending more. Is it a deal breaker for you to chuck Loghain at the archdemon? You'd have to pair off Alistair and Anora, but it allows for Alistair to be king and the warden to be alive with a regular Kieran.
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Post by TabithaTH on Jan 25, 2019 20:00:05 GMT
All of the above is why I made my spreadsheet. I was loosing my mind trying to get everything to fit, so had to make a visual representation in order to keep order of my different ideas. While my canon state is pretty set, I have also had trouble deciding which PC's goes with which LI and which decisions. Also, in my Elvhen Glory state, I'd really like for my Dalish warden to have a regular baby with Morrigan, but I also want Alistair to be king alone and Morrigan to be happy with her very much alive warden . I am settling for an OG baby, but I like the idea of a regular family happy ending more. Is it a deal breaker for you to chuck Loghain at the archdemon? You'd have to pair off Alistair and Anora, but it allows for Alistair to be king and the warden to be alive with a regular Kieran. I have thought about that, but Loghain can only be alive if Anorra rules as queen and I trust Alistair as king more than her, when it comes to positive outcomes for the elves (as is the idea of the state, hence Elvhen GLORY). Thus OG baby is less intrusive than the Alistair + Anorra pairing. Could I have had Loghain alive without Queen Anorra, I would preffer such an outcome. Edit: Also, I don't really like Anorra (Though I admit that I prefer Warden AListair, so she is queen in most WS) and I also think it's the only world state in which Alistair is king alone and I want different combos to experience different outcomes.
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Post by pavellaning on Jan 25, 2019 22:28:30 GMT
I only ever romance Dorian with humans or elves.
I only ever romance Iron Bull with dwarves.
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Post by Catilina on Jan 25, 2019 23:13:36 GMT
I often lose the interest in the Inquisition after my Hawke in safe already.
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Post by Lazarillo on Jan 26, 2019 16:56:42 GMT
It just hit me how ironic it is that people call Solas an "egg", since he uses the "can't make an omelet" defense for murdering everybody.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Jan 28, 2019 13:23:07 GMT
I've found out some of my characters are very persuasive in term of wanting to be played ...I'm not sure if I should feel terrified or happy about this
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Post by boxofscreaming on Jan 28, 2019 19:17:45 GMT
I tried a party with four rogues in DA2 once. We did OK, though admittedly it was an easy quest.
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Post by Sokemis on Jan 30, 2019 19:20:33 GMT
I think I realized why my F!Hawke x Fenris are more dear to me than my Lavellan x Cullen (I do still love them though). At first I thought it was because I played DA2 first, and therefore had more time to get attached to them. The more I think about my canon pairs, the more I realize that my H&F are basically genderbent versions of my F!Tabris x Zevran (who are my Dragon Age OTP) personality wise. I think that fact alone is what endears H & F to me a little more than my L & C.
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Post by Iddy on Feb 3, 2019 4:45:59 GMT
I think I realized why my F!Hawke x Fenris are more dear to me than my Lavellan x Cullen (I do still love them though). At first I thought it was because I played DA2 first, and therefore had more time to get attached to them. The more I think about my canon pairs, the more I realize that my H&F are basically genderbent versions of my F!Tabris x Zevran (who are my Dragon Age OTP) personality wise. I think that fact alone is what endears H & F to me a little more than my L & C. So much human/elf lovin'
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Post by boxofscreaming on Feb 3, 2019 9:24:36 GMT
I don't think Solas is naturally bald - I think he took one look at the hairstyle options in Dragon Age Inquisition and shaved it all off.
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Post by Iddy on Feb 4, 2019 1:50:37 GMT
I sacrificed Loghain to the Archdemon because I wanted my Warden to live without doing the DR.
But... it still stings that he wasn't the one who delivered the killing blow. Feels like he lost some hero/badass points there.
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Post by Quickpaw on Feb 4, 2019 1:55:08 GMT
I don't think Solas is naturally bald - I think he took one look at the hairstyle options in Dragon Age Inquisition and shaved it all off. I have a running theory that "immortality" in the DA setting results in baldness over time. We saw the same with the elves in Mythal's Temple, and with Avernus in Soldier's Peak in Origins. Flemeth is the obvious exception, but that was Mythal's spirit possessing a mortal body, (and subsequently transfering from host to host), not the original form maintained over eons.
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Post by Lazarillo on Feb 4, 2019 1:59:01 GMT
and with Avernus in Soldier's Peak in Origins Avernus was human. That said, Zathrian was a bald elf who'd lived unnaturally long, too, so Lex Luthelves still started in Origins.
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Post by Quickpaw on Feb 4, 2019 2:03:57 GMT
Avernus was human. That said, Zathrian was a bald elf who'd lived unnaturally long, too, so Lex Luthelves still started in Origins. Indeed. My main point was that no matter the methodology for achieving it or the species in question, living past mortal limits would result in loss of hair follicles (or some other scientific jargon). Corypheus, the Architect, ghouls and the darkspawn in general also follow this trend (since without being killed a blighted creature doesn't seem to have a natural end).
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Post by pavellaning on Feb 5, 2019 21:49:06 GMT
Dorian should have been race-gated to only human or elven Inquisitors. When I see him with a Cadash or Adaar I am thinking "What the fuck is Dorian doing with him?" I almost want to head-canon that the mark has some brainwashing powers and that Dorian is too polite to say that he is not handsome. I am saying this because 9 out of the 10 Adaars or Cadashes I see Dorian paired with have fallen through the ugly tree, got beat by all of the ugly branches and look either like an Easter Island head or Shrek's relative while 9 out of the 10 Trevelyans or Lavellans I have seen him paired with are absolutely gorgeous and worthy of his admiration.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 5, 2019 23:22:47 GMT
Dorian should have been race-gated to only human or elven Inquisitors. When I see him with a Cadash or Adaar I am thinking "What the fuck is Dorian doing with him?" I almost want to head-canon that the mark has some brainwashing powers and that Dorian is too polite to say that he is not handsome. I am saying this because 9 out of the 10 Adaars or Cadashes I see Dorian paired with have fallen through the ugly tree, got beat by all of the ugly branches and look either like an Easter Island head or Shrek's relative while 9 out of the 10 Trevelyans or Lavellans I have seen him paired with are absolutely gorgeous and worthy of his admiration. Oh, yes, Dorian's so superficial, isn't? Perfect mind, perfect body...? Oh wait... the mind no matter... if that a qunari's or a dwarf's mind. Because they're ugly... Little and tall people aren't people? Can't be attractive? Not mentioned, according to the story Dorian finds Bull attractive. Tastes are different. Not mentioned there are many beautiful dwarves and qunari. YOU don't find these people attractive (good enough to Dorian), not Dorian.
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Post by Walter Black on Feb 5, 2019 23:23:29 GMT
Dorian should have been race-gated to only human or elven Inquisitors. When I see him with a Cadash or Adaar I am thinking "What the fuck is Dorian doing with him?" I almost want to head-canon that the mark has some brainwashing powers and that Dorian is too polite to say that he is not handsome. I am saying this because 9 out of the 10 Adaars or Cadashes I see Dorian paired with have fallen through the ugly tree, got beat by all of the ugly branches and look either like an Easter Island head or Shrek's relative while 9 out of the 10 Trevelyans or Lavellans I have seen him paired with are absolutely gorgeous and worthy of his admiration. Maybe because despite initial appearances, Dorian isn't really that shallow? That those particular Cadash and Adaar had personalities he admired and grew to love, and loved him in return? That he rejected the notion that just because they weren't born into some arbitrary definition of physical beauty, they didn't deserve to live their whole lives alone? Or because maybe the devs like the supporting players who actually like playing PCs that resemble themselves (in this case, rough and short or big and hefty) and still get to be the hero?
Seriously, why do you even care how someone else plays their game, or what they find appealing? "Sorry, since you and/or your character don't match my personal standards of beauty, you don't deserve to even be able to pretend to find love."
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Post by Jarovbees on Feb 6, 2019 17:25:46 GMT
I'm feeling the urge to go finish that Adaar/Dorian run from a while back. Thanks for the inspiration!
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Post by boxofscreaming on Feb 6, 2019 17:30:00 GMT
Dorian should have been race-gated to only human or elven Inquisitors. When I see him with a Cadash or Adaar I am thinking "What the fuck is Dorian doing with him?" I almost want to head-canon that the mark has some brainwashing powers and that Dorian is too polite to say that he is not handsome. I am saying this because 9 out of the 10 Adaars or Cadashes I see Dorian paired with have fallen through the ugly tree, got beat by all of the ugly branches and look either like an Easter Island head or Shrek's relative while 9 out of the 10 Trevelyans or Lavellans I have seen him paired with are absolutely gorgeous and worthy of his admiration. Nah, Elves are the least attractive race in Inquisition - they're much too emaciated (Sera doesn't count since she's a human with pointy ears).
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Post by Catilina on Feb 6, 2019 18:10:53 GMT
I'm feeling the urge to go finish that Adaar/Dorian run from a while back. Thanks for the inspiration! Adaar & Dorian is pretty good.
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Post by pavellaning on Feb 6, 2019 18:15:41 GMT
Dorian should have been race-gated to only human or elven Inquisitors. When I see him with a Cadash or Adaar I am thinking "What the fuck is Dorian doing with him?" I almost want to head-canon that the mark has some brainwashing powers and that Dorian is too polite to say that he is not handsome. I am saying this because 9 out of the 10 Adaars or Cadashes I see Dorian paired with have fallen through the ugly tree, got beat by all of the ugly branches and look either like an Easter Island head or Shrek's relative while 9 out of the 10 Trevelyans or Lavellans I have seen him paired with are absolutely gorgeous and worthy of his admiration. Maybe because despite initial appearances, Dorian isn't really that shallow? That those particular Cadash and Adaar had personalities he admired and grew to love, and loved him in return? That he rejected the notion that just because they weren't born into some arbitrary definition of physical beauty, they didn't deserve to live their whole lives alone? Or because maybe the devs like the supporting players who actually like playing PCs that resemble themselves (in this case, rough and short or big and hefty) and still get to be the hero?
Seriously, why do you even care how someone else plays their game, or what they find appealing? "Sorry, since you and/or your character don't match my personal standards of beauty, you don't deserve to even be able to pretend to find love." But not with Dorian... I mean he calls the Inquisitor handsome. Calling ugly people handsome is cruel and unnecessary. I usually head canon that Dorian is drunk when romantically interacting with an ugly Inquisitor. I mean, I know that Dorian has daddy issues and is lonely but there is no reason to settle for someone monstrous and disproportionate in appearance out of loneliness. I wish that there was a an algorithm within the game for ugly player characters to be rejected by their love interests. I never said that all male Adaars nor Cadashes are ugly, but those I have seen with Dorian make Corypheus in his ghoul form look like a handsome man. I've seen ugly as homemade sin Lavellans and Trevelyans with Dorian as well. Did you not see that I said '9 out of 10' but I do believe in attractiveness gating romances with physically attractive love interests to prevent such travesties. I do care when they post images of their monstrous player characters with the gorgeous Dorian Pavus, so yes I do care yet I am supportive when they post Dorian with physically beautiful player characters. It's not my fault that some people's characters are monstrous physically. Well, good for them for approximating Darkspawn in the character creation but leave Dorian out of your blighted fantasies folks.
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Post by pavellaning on Feb 6, 2019 18:18:06 GMT
I'm feeling the urge to go finish that Adaar/Dorian run from a while back. Thanks for the inspiration! Well, if you have made him attractive then good for you. I made an extremely attractive Adaar once but his save got corrupted. My problem is with the character design for male Qunari in Inquisition as opposed to DA2. They looked awesome in that game and now you have to work really hard at character creation to not get Shrek or a Shriek from the Deep Roads. Also why are you so touchy? I have very strong preferences on what is attractive and what is not. I for one greatly prefer the elven and human physiques because that is the type that I go for in real-life. The only way to get an attractive male Qunari in DAI is to approximate the look that they had in DA2. Mine looked like the Arishok and I would have totally romanced the Arishok but it is not the players fault but the developers for throwing the Qunari under the bus appearance wise in this game.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 6, 2019 18:24:36 GMT
Maybe because despite initial appearances, Dorian isn't really that shallow? That those particular Cadash and Adaar had personalities he admired and grew to love, and loved him in return? That he rejected the notion that just because they weren't born into some arbitrary definition of physical beauty, they didn't deserve to live their whole lives alone? Or because maybe the devs like the supporting players who actually like playing PCs that resemble themselves (in this case, rough and short or big and hefty) and still get to be the hero?
Seriously, why do you even care how someone else plays their game, or what they find appealing? "Sorry, since you and/or your character don't match my personal standards of beauty, you don't deserve to even be able to pretend to find love." But not with Dorian... I mean he calls the Inquisitor handsome. Calling ugly people handsome is cruel and unnecessary. I usually head canon that Dorian is drunk when romantically interacting with an ugly Inquisitor. I mean, I know that Dorian has daddy issues and is lonely but there is no reason to settle for someone monstrous and disproportionate in appearance out of loneliness. I wish that there was a an algorithm within the game for ugly player characters to be rejected by their love interests. I never said that all male Adaars nor Cadashes are ugly, but those I have seen with Dorian make Corypheus in his ghoul form look like a handsome man. I've seen ugly as homemade sin Lavellans and Trevelyans with Dorian as well. Did you not see that I said '9 out of 10' but I do believe in attractiveness gating romances with physically attractive love interests to prevent such travesties. I do care when they post images of their monstrous player characters with the gorgeous Dorian Pavus, so yes I do care yet I am supportive when they post Dorian with physically beautiful player characters. It's not my fault that some people's characters are monstrous physically. Well, good for them for approximating Darkspawn in the character creation but leave Dorian out of your blighted fantasies folks. Again: Dorian finds The Iron Bull attractive. And while Bull isn't really my type, he has his charm, undoubtedly. So: calling him or people who doesn't fit the classic beauty standard 'ugly', is just rude. Especially if you say that about other people's character. This is just your taste. The taste isn't universal, it's individual. According to me, for example, the male elves the less attractive in the Inquisition... and while Fenris in DA2 also not really my type, his romance is great, and yes, My Hawke(s) said, he's handsome.
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Post by pavellaning on Feb 6, 2019 18:26:54 GMT
Dorian should have been race-gated to only human or elven Inquisitors. When I see him with a Cadash or Adaar I am thinking "What the fuck is Dorian doing with him?" I almost want to head-canon that the mark has some brainwashing powers and that Dorian is too polite to say that he is not handsome. I am saying this because 9 out of the 10 Adaars or Cadashes I see Dorian paired with have fallen through the ugly tree, got beat by all of the ugly branches and look either like an Easter Island head or Shrek's relative while 9 out of the 10 Trevelyans or Lavellans I have seen him paired with are absolutely gorgeous and worthy of his admiration. Nah, Elves are the least attractive race in Inquisition - they're much too emaciated (Sera doesn't count since she's a human with pointy ears). Don't get me wrong there are plenty of physically monstrous elves. Mine used to look like Marilyn Manson before I got the hang of character creation. I saw someone's playthrough where they had a monstrously ugly elf romancing poor Dorian. Never once did I say all Dwarves or Qunari were unappealing. I thought that Renn from the Descent was very appealing and that Varric is handsome. Also, female dwarves are adorable. But for some reason beyond my comprehension Dorian of all people gets paired off with the ugliest of their races. Maybe instead of race-gating an attractiveness parameter like certain slider limits for romances to be cut off would be a better alternative to prevent fug-mances?
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Post by pavellaning on Feb 6, 2019 18:46:51 GMT
But not with Dorian... I mean he calls the Inquisitor handsome. Calling ugly people handsome is cruel and unnecessary. I usually head canon that Dorian is drunk when romantically interacting with an ugly Inquisitor. I mean, I know that Dorian has daddy issues and is lonely but there is no reason to settle for someone monstrous and disproportionate in appearance out of loneliness. I wish that there was a an algorithm within the game for ugly player characters to be rejected by their love interests. I never said that all male Adaars nor Cadashes are ugly, but those I have seen with Dorian make Corypheus in his ghoul form look like a handsome man. I've seen ugly as homemade sin Lavellans and Trevelyans with Dorian as well. Did you not see that I said '9 out of 10' but I do believe in attractiveness gating romances with physically attractive love interests to prevent such travesties.
I do care when they post images of their monstrous player characters with the gorgeous Dorian Pavus, so yes I do care yet I am supportive when they post Dorian with physically beautiful player characters. It's not my fault that some people's characters are monstrous physically. Well, good for them for approximating Darkspawn in the character creation but leave Dorian out of your blighted fantasies folks. Again: Dorian finds The Iron Bull attractive. And while Bull isn't really my type, he has his charm, undoubtedly. So: calling him or people who doesn't fit the classic beauty standard, is just rude. Especially if you say that about other people's character. This is just your taste. The taste isn't universal, it's individual. According to me, for example, the male elves the less attractive in the Inquisition... and while Fenris in DA2 also not really my type, his romance is great, and yes. My Hawke(s) said, he's handsome. Yes, was too harsh and generalistic. I have a very specific set of traits that I find to be appealing. If I can make an Adaar who looks like this guy again I'd romance him with Dorian.
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