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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 18:26:18 GMT
I have been reading about this recently and can't help my self but wonder if the VA strike is holding up or responsible for canceling ME:A DLC plans. Just speculating of course, and I have no evidence to support my speculation, but it is safe to assume that something like this would most certainly effect a game like ME:A. Do we know if any of ME:A's voice actors are part of this strike or if EA has made some backroom deals with them to keep them from partaking in said strike? What does BSN think?
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jul 10, 2017 18:37:33 GMT
Doubt it, they still have their VA for the original game don't they? The strike has been ongoing for years. Plus they could easily just look for other VAs that aren't striking, you don't need people that are hyped up to be top tier to get good voice acting in a game.
I support the striking VAs, but they're just giving other people an opportunity to take their place when it ends.
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Post by Fogg on Jul 10, 2017 18:49:14 GMT
No. EA is a big company that is very able to make a projection on costs and profit of DLC. They can see how many people are playing the game right now, this week and the past month. And the answer clearly is that it's way too little to justify putting money in DLC.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 10, 2017 18:51:05 GMT
No, I can't see this being an issue for DLC. In the original pre-strike agreement, I'm all but certain DLC would have been included in their contract. Also worth noting, they have already recorded additional dialogue after the release of the game and MEA still appears on their "non-struck" list.
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Post by jaegerbane on Jul 10, 2017 18:52:26 GMT
No. EA is a big company that is very able to make a projection on costs and profit of DLC. They can see how many people are playing the game right now, this week and the past month. And the answer clearly is that it's way too little to justify putting money in DLC. sigh While I'd agree that EA have that ability thanks to the way Origin, PSN and XB work, describing it as 'clear' when we've never even seen the data is being silly.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 18:55:38 GMT
No. EA is a big company that is very able to make a projection on costs and profit of DLC. They can see how many people are playing the game right now, this week and the past month. And the answer clearly is that it's way too little to justify putting money in DLC. Any hard numbers I can look at to back that up?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 18:57:25 GMT
No, I can't see this being an issue for DLC. In the original pre-strike agreement, I'm all but certain DLC would have been included in their contract. Also worth noting, they have already recorded additional dialogue after the release of the game. For voice actors not used in the original game, there would be no previous contract, however; and, depending on how SAG-AFTRA looks at it, signing new VAs to do just the DLC may not fall under the provisions they made for games on the "unstruck" list. Also, if EA's plan was not to create a quarian DLC; but to move quickly towards producing a sequel game (and so did not make a provision for it in the Interactive Contract for ME:A1), that 2nd game is clearly not on the "unstruck" list. So, if say, they want to now abandon the thought of a sequel game because the first didn't quite live up to their expectations, they could not just repurpose that into a DLC without, I'm sure, SAG-AFTRA at least trying to block it. It also does not preclude the idea that they might want to sign a particular newn voice and just because the game is on the unstruck list doesn't mean that a staunch strike supporter would not be willing to sign on until after the strike is over... (i.e. hold out for a potentially much better deal). This is from the FAQ section of the SAG-AFTRA website on the strike in response to the question "What work is struck": It seems plenty ambiguous to me.
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Post by LogicGunn on Jul 10, 2017 21:45:34 GMT
I think DLC is covered in the original contracts IIRC. I'm assuming some of those were done before the strike occurred.
Also, I wonder if some of the MEA VA's aren't members of the SAG-AFTRA?
I'm not trying to be mean at all, but I felt like there were fewer seriously well known VA's in Andromeda, and I wondered when the list of VA's came out if the strike was a reason? I'm not saying they're not talented or good enough or anything like that.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 10, 2017 21:49:10 GMT
I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure the majority of voice actors that EA would use would all be part of the union. As far as "backroom deals" I don't think that would happen for if a union member crosses a picket line it can cause a lot of problems for them, unless the company tries to protect them generally they are removed from the union.
As far as impacting Andromeda directly it is an unknown unless you see the contract for there could be a clause indicated "additional content" and the union has stated that they will abide by any contract prior to February 2015 and if they are making DLC I would think BioWare/EA would want to make sure they have the actors locked in before making any new content.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 10, 2017 21:55:58 GMT
Doubt it, they still have their VA for the original game don't they? The strike has been ongoing for years. Plus they could easily just look for other VAs that aren't striking, you don't need people that are hyped up to be top tier to get good voice acting in a game. I support the striking VAs, but they're just giving other people an opportunity to take their place when it ends. The problem I am having is with the union itself, I am pretty certain that companies like EA won't give residuals because it is too much of an unknown factor for them. At the same time the union is unwilling to negotiate at all with the publishers right now and I think that is also giving the publishers are reason not to negotiate either. I am wondering if the union is starting to become desperate though with their statement a month or two ago about unknown publishers signing an agreement with them. The thing for me is based on an article I read none of the nine publishers they are negotiating with are ones that signed with them so in the long run that statement was all PR bluster with no gain since it won't divide the publishers.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 10, 2017 22:07:20 GMT
Doubt it, they still have their VA for the original game don't they? The strike has been ongoing for years. Plus they could easily just look for other VAs that aren't striking, you don't need people that are hyped up to be top tier to get good voice acting in a game. I support the striking VAs, but they're just giving other people an opportunity to take their place when it ends.You're exactly right. It's not like the old days. Employers can circumvent strikes a lot easier these days and the end result is usually just bad publicity for the striking side. I love unions because it does overcome horrible, management issues. Now, without unions, managers like to team up in "cliques" and it's an unfair advantage especially since HR follows management's lead. Today's HR isn't the middle ground anymore. They're there to keep companies out of courtrooms and enforce the "bottom line." I will go on to say that it's because of this, unions have made such a comeback in the past decade here in the US. I never saw a union banner in front of buildings until the past few years and it's getting common all over again. When I went home to visit relatives in New York... union banners and union signs everywhere. I'm not a fan of unions because a strong HR that holds the middle ground is the best solution, in my humble opinion. Also, with unions, getting rid of a problematic person becomes almost a legal issue. However, bad HR can't figure out who to hire or retain and that in itself becomes an issue of competence. That reflects on the whole company as well. Just saying...
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Post by abaris on Jul 10, 2017 22:33:46 GMT
I have been reading about this recently and can't help my self but wonder if the VA strike is holding up or responsible for canceling ME:A DLC plans. Just speculating of course, and I have no evidence to support my speculation, but it is safe to assume that something like this would most certainly effect a game like ME:A. Do we know if any of ME:A's voice actors are part of this strike or if EA has made some backroom deals with them to keep them from partaking in said strike? What does BSN think? You can be sure that if they had DLCs planned, the contracts would have covered DLC productions. So the strike didn't cover them. It's a pretty save bet that when the VAs signed up for voicing Andromeda, they had to sign a clause about ensuing expansions. Wether they are produced or not is written on a different page, but I'm sure the contracts would have covered all eventualities. It would be highly unprofessional to renegotiate if expansions were even a remote possibility.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 10, 2017 22:36:50 GMT
Doubtful, I'm certain voice actors signed a contract to return for whatever new updates and DLC's are made relating to ME:A.
This is what BioWare did with ME3, after with ME2 they had no contract with VA's to do voice lines for DLC's and couldn't come due to schedule conflicts.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 10, 2017 23:07:31 GMT
No. EA is a big company that is very able to make a projection on costs and profit of DLC. They can see how many people are playing the game right now, this week and the past month. And the answer clearly is that it's way too little to justify putting money in DLC. sigh While I'd agree that EA have that ability thanks to the way Origin, PSN and XB work, describing it as 'clear' when we've never even seen the data is being silly. Indeed thbe only data we've got access too is how many hours we've each put into it.
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Post by kino on Jul 11, 2017 0:42:20 GMT
The original VA's contract would probably include all work on ME:A, including DLC. Now it could impact any actors they've attempted to hire after the strike started to work on DLC, but I suspect they covered that contingency as well. From what I read the SAG-AFTRA strike wasn't a sudden surprise.
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 11, 2017 1:49:24 GMT
No. EA is a big company that is very able to make a projection on costs and profit of DLC. They can see how many people are playing the game right now, this week and the past month. And the answer clearly is that it's way too little to justify putting money in DLC. You have a source to back that up yes? No? Didn't think so.
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Post by Serza on Jul 11, 2017 16:18:28 GMT
Sources are evil.
We should kill a lot of sources. With air strikes.
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Post by malgus on Jul 16, 2017 18:35:39 GMT
Was there ever any voice actors that were on the strike that played a role in mass effect andromeda? just asking
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Post by malgus on Jul 16, 2017 23:40:08 GMT
No. EA is a big company that is very able to make a projection on costs and profit of DLC. They can see how many people are playing the game right now, this week and the past month. And the answer clearly is that it's way too little to justify putting money in DLC. You have a source to back that up yes? No? Didn't think so.
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Post by abaris on Jul 17, 2017 0:02:44 GMT
Was there ever any voice actors that were on the strike that played a role in mass effect andromeda? just asking I guess it's something similar to the screenwriters strike a decade ago. A union thing and if you don't participate, you would have a hard time being employed in the future. But as I said, the strike doesn't cover active contracts. And you can be sure that there was a clause in their contracts covering all eventualities of expanding the game.
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