Wait a minute, Bioware is STILL patching animations?

To naysayers and doom Makers yup.

The patches that we're getting are a direct result of customer feedback... feedback that wouldn't have existed without the game actually being released so that customers could get their grabby hands on it. Who knows how many of these issues would have been addressed, or even noticed, if it weren't for the people saying "hey, this is kind of janky" or "hey we need to be able to customize our appearance in the game itself" or "hey the inventory's too small".

Customer feedback is an important tool and allows the team to know what their priorities for fixes should be. 

I just wish y'all weren't so fucking hyperbolic and prone to throwing tantrums because the game isn't 100% grade A flawlessly perfect.

There's no way in the world they should have needed players to tell them that most of this stuff was messed up.  Anyone doing Q&A with any modicum of common sense could see it.  They wanted to get the game out during the last fiscal year, and they put it out regardless of its quality at the time.  They figured they'd just patch it later and it would be fine.  But I wonder how many players are like the OP and have just put the game down and haven't even come back to check it out post patches.


I'm sure Bioware/EA can see the last time people played in Origin.  If the numbers aren't looking good, it may be a reason why they're in no rush to put out more content. 

I think that was a big reason for great Video Game crash. Games were just unplayable.

Maybe they are working on the asari appearance? *hopeful*

I just finished a playthrough last night having completed one last friday and this time a lot of smaller things were changed. Dialogue choices were different in the final battle, some things were cut (that definitely needed to be) and a few other things were changed. All the changes were great IMHO. It's nice to see that they are still adjusting things and getting rid of things that really never worked or changing them so they work better.

Specific changes I noted:

Ryder no longer screams , 'hit them all on the way. No stopping!' for the final battle. AMEN.

When dealing with the scourge as you are coming up against the kett they switched back to the flashback with the dad's voice rather than ryder saying 'the scourge and the kett' as if trying to  sort out what the hell was actually happening. Wonderful change.

Krogan aren't kroganing the hell out of shit anymore. That line was absent.

Mind of voeld I think has more specific commentary now in final battle. 

All the tweaks were good ones IMHO. Nice to see they are making that part of the story better.

F*** Bethesda. F*** Obisidian. F*** 2K. F*** Konami. F*** WB. F*** Gearbox. F*** Ubisoft.

Why? I stop pre-ordering anything they made years ago. All of their titles are pretty much f***ed up at launch. What did I learn to do? Buy the complete package when they stop patching it and only once I know there are community fixes (like mods) in place. BioWare is getting that reputation of not delivering on time, but they never abandoned titles like the above POS publishers. When has BioWare ever done that? Never. 

I'm confused... is it a bad thing that BW is continually improving the state of ME:A?

BioWare can't do anything correct, obviously.

Wow, are you guys (who quoted me) actually saying that you are fine with being the day-1 customers (those who actually pay the highest price for a game in the first place) being beta testers?

I get that games are more complex than in the 90s or whatever but you seem to basically argue that that makes it alright to sell them at full price and advertise them as finished products when they clearly are not. And please, we are not talking about a bunch of obscure bugs that only happen once in a while for every 10.000th player in the case of ME:A as it appeared in March. I'd be the first to let that one slide.

Yes, games are more complex and bigger but so is the industry. Publishers also make way more money with AAA games these days then way back when and the teams have gotten bigger as well, so why shouldn't we have the same expectations of QA?
And even if you are correct and it is simply not feasible to assume they can do everything in house, there are so many options. Make a closed or semi open beta test for example, I am sure they'd have found plenty of people to test the game for free and issue bug reports. Make it some form of early access or whatnot and be honest on where you are with the game.

But no, EA/BW's marketing savants had to go out in November/December, saying that "if ME:A needs more time, we'll give the game more time, rather than rushing it out in March." Well, clearly something doesn't add up there. I tell you what really changed: The internet made it possible for publisher to sell their games according to the fiscal year rather then according to the state of the actual product because people can just download patches anyway later. That wasn't possible until recently. I think that is the real big difference.

And no, I am not diminishing BW's effort to patch the game, on the contrary, it is fantastic that the devs put in the effort to fix whatever they can. :thmbsup:

My beef is strictly with the publisher/the management who either knew about the issues and decided to not give a crap and push out the game as it was anyway because they wanted the quick buck now rather than a sustainable brand reputation or who didn't invest in proper QA that should have easily been able to tell them that there were some serious issues which would cause public backlash if the game was released.

You see, I don't even mind the bugs that much but maybe, just maybe, if Andromeda had been delayed and come out in the state of 1.09 or maybe even with one or two more in-house patches, the perception of the Mass Effect brand (and thus also the now somewhat uncertain future of the franchise) might just have been a quite different story.

But with people who don't seem to mind being used in this fashion and even defend it on behalf of the publishers, I guess it's no surprise that that's what we get. But then please, don't anybody ever make a fuss about the releases of the likes of a Batman Arkham Knight, a No Man's Sky or a Mass Effect Andromeda again 'cause you heard it here fellows, we like to beta test games that we bought for 60-70 bucks.

Actually, in my case, you are. I bought the game on pre-order and played it everyday for 2-3 hours until the weekend when I spent a good 36 hours on it between Friday and Sunday. Nothing, and I mean nothing, was game breaking in that time. Not even after that when I finished the game after 110 hrs. I ran into one bug. That's it. Which is why I was wondering if me and many on the forum were playing the same game.