Multiplayer needs a crafting system

I will support Andromeda being made closer to ME3MP in terms of gearing solutions via fine-tuning of the pool, modifications, weapon redesign, the drop rates, the MF assignments etc. I do have things I want as well

But breaking down the cards & crafting while preserving the current loot pool is not my favorite idea and I have tried to explain why I think so. FWIW, crafting triggers me more than the thought that a full manifest is unattainable.

And, yes, a completed manifest is the way in this system to play what character you want with what gun you want at peak efficiency. Working towards a set up you specifically want in a focused way is not. ME3MP had the same system. The difference lies in the scale and the low variability of the loot pool (it is boring), which is what needs to be addressed imo.

Jul 17, 2017 18:52:15 GMT someN7orother said:

Jul 17, 2017 17:23:52 GMT @carefull said:

I will support Andromeda being made closer to ME3MP in terms of gearing solutions via fine-tuning of the pool, modifications, weapon redesign, the drop rates, the MF assignments etc. I do have things I want as well

But breaking down the cards & crafting while preserving the current loot pool is not my favorite idea and I have tried to explain why I think so. FWIW, crafting triggers me more than the thought that a full manifest is unattainable.

And, yes, a completed manifest is the way in this system to play what character you want with what gun you want at peak efficiency. Working towards a set up you specifically want in a focused way is not. ME3MP had the same system. The difference lies in the scale and the low variability of the loot pool (it is boring), which is what needs to be addressed imo.

Who said anything about "peak efficiency"? Efficiency analysis has no bearing on this discussion because MEAMP is not a competitive shooter and, again, you don't need math to fine-tune your build to make it viable in any difficulty.

I said it's possible to keep getting unwanted upgrades for shit you'll likely never use without unlocking the first level of a character or gun that you actually want. How does that make any sense? ME3MP did NOT substantially have the same system because a level I character had the same amount of skill points that a level V did, and the odds of getting a given card were much better due to the card bloat not being anywhere near the levels of MEAMP 1.09. It's not so much about efficiency as about the fact that a level I character plays differently from a level X, but a level X doesn't play much differently from a level XX.

The addition of a crafting system as suggested by OP would not affect you in the slightest, except that it would allow others to acquire and play with the stuff they want, and apparently other people making progress towards their own goals triggers you, to use your own words.

Should the crafting system as the one suggested above be introduced, I'd be doing the sane thing. Breaking the cards down and feeding one chosen weapon, whichever one gives the most pluses till it's maxed out. I certainly am not going to place myself at a disadvantage compared to everyone else.

One system is clearly faster than the other, so once you introduce both, one becomes redundant.  I am explaining the difference between the two systems and how one is a radical departure from another. Balancing both to coexist is essentially impossible, because unless each item is not progressing on RNG, there is no way to make multiple low-level possessions as valuable as one maxed out possession.

In my view ME3MP represented a good example of a fun RNG system, where the ride is fun, and things you get out of the boxes are all great toys, while in Andromeda MP the main problem is that the gold bloat/the ride is boring; most toys are not that great, and Christmas does not come often enough.

However, changing the system entirely will lose that unique flavor that ME3MP imo had (as well as making it extremely susceptible to hard corrections whenever FOTM is rebalanced), and Andromeda tried to replicate, but erred in its execution. I'd rather they corrected the executions than the system.

EDIT: The problem is, the longer they wait to change anything in any way, the more they are going to punish the folks that are grinding the most atm, so the less they will be able to course-correct.