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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 20:06:55 GMT
Oooh what about a warp shield or like a throw shield??? Oh my god throw shield... would send enemies sky high  or a stasis shield or something... like a 25% chance to cause stasis for 3 seconds when you hit um a smaller enemy with the shield... as well as knocking them back so they get frozen in the air in a funny position of course |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 20:08:28 GMT
Having flamer would be fun... Like snap freeze and flamer... it would be like opposites but comparable powers  And erm would snap freeze detonate flamer for explosions??? (not sure) Sadist.
Never been called that before 
Also... youd be a sadist to use it in a group game...
But in a solo... maybe the opposite
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Sept 18, 2016 20:09:23 GMT
Keep talking this way and you'll make a crapload of elitist enemies. They will make fun of you and hurt your e-boobs. But cryo explosions are fun... and isnt that kinda the point of the combat??? to make explosions??? (on a power based character at least)... and with incinerate you can already make explosions with overload youd just have more It would be super powerful for sure but were speaking like theoretically here like... it doesnt exist... so erm... yeah... its just a bit of fun and that WOULD be fun??? *will be quiet so doesnt make elitist enemies*  His (and the EdiBots) Snap Freeze primes everything trough shields/barriers/trough walls and can be detonated by nearly anything. It's a little too easy, too simple, too powerful. And while EdiBot can't detonate her own Snap Freeze, the Paladin can. And the Cryo explosions are bugged and do 2x damage (or so I think) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 20:13:19 GMT
But cryo explosions are fun... and isnt that kinda the point of the combat??? to make explosions??? (on a power based character at least)... and with incinerate you can already make explosions with overload youd just have more It would be super powerful for sure but were speaking like theoretically here like... it doesnt exist... so erm... yeah... its just a bit of fun and that WOULD be fun??? *will be quiet so doesnt make elitist enemies* His (and the EdiBots) Snap Freeze primes everything trough shields/barriers/trough walls and can be detonated by nearly anything. It's a little too easy, too simple, too powerful. And while EdiBot can't detonate her own Snap Freeze, the Paladin can. And the Cryo explosions are bugged and do 2x damage (or so I think)
Ohhhhhh now I kinda understand why people dont like it 
I had no idea about the wall thing... actually... I was kinda surprised that things were frozen when I used it before and I was like huh now did I reach them??? now it makes sense
But 2x damage = better surely???
Like... in a game like mass effect 3 multiplayer which is kinda hard isnt doing more damage beneficial for like everyone???
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Post by stephenw32768 on Sept 18, 2016 20:16:56 GMT
His (and the EdiBots) Snap Freeze primes everything trough shields/barriers/trough walls and can be detonated by nearly anything. It's a little too easy, too simple, too powerful. And while EdiBot can't detonate her own Snap Freeze, the Paladin can. And the Cryo explosions are bugged and do 2x damage (or so I think)
Like... in a game like mass effect 3 multiplayer which is kinda hard isnt doing more damage beneficial for like everyone??? You're making the cardinal error of thinking about it as a team game. To an elite player, it is a contest to see how much he can outscore all the other players by. By doing lots of damage and killing things, Snap Freeze deprives the elite player of points that he needed, and he ends up having to waste missiles (that he wanted to use for A-bomb team kills) to nuke wave 11 to make up the difference. |
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Sept 18, 2016 20:19:59 GMT
His (and the EdiBots) Snap Freeze primes everything trough shields/barriers/trough walls and can be detonated by nearly anything. It's a little too easy, too simple, too powerful. And while EdiBot can't detonate her own Snap Freeze, the Paladin can. And the Cryo explosions are bugged and do 2x damage (or so I think)
Ohhhhhh now I kinda understand why people dont like it
I had no idea about the wall thing... actually... I was kinda surprised that things were frozen when I used it before and I was like huh now did I reach them??? now it makes sense
But 2x damage = better surely???
Like... in a game like mass effect 3 multiplayer which is kinda hard isnt doing more damage beneficial for like everyone???
Look, a Platinum game can be done in less than 7 minutes by using 36 rockets right into spawns. Is it fun? The first couple of times - maybe. Then it just get's old. Big damage is great when it's balanced with negatives. |
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Post by mordokai on Sept 18, 2016 20:21:50 GMT
^ Earth DLC was the most awesome DLC of them all. All characters were mostly unique, powerful and fun. And while I was disappointed on how the Shadow turned out, I can still say that she can be fun. I don't know about that... while I agree with you that most of the characters(I really don't like Fury) are fun, I'd hardly call them unique. Destroyer is a reflavored vanilla Hsol. Demolisher is a QME/QMI wannabe without the combo potential of the first and with no cloak of the second. Fury feels like a bastard child of the huntress and valkyrie. Paladin is a mix of salengie and AIU, with much bigger combo potential and much more cheese applied to him. Shadow and Slayer are the only really unique ones and even with them, their slashes are kinda negated because they suck from optimization PoW. Yes, they are all fun and powerful, but I'd be hard pressed to call them unique. |
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Post by SalMasRac on Sept 18, 2016 20:23:42 GMT
He shouldn't have existed. What we needed was a Salarian sentinel with Tech armor, Incinerate, and Throw. Yes, I'm salty. In my recent adventures trying to make an onhost SalSent, I've noticed that there are 2 different versions of Throw. There is a version that I don't think any MP kit has, which is a "Double Throw" split Evolution at Rank 6. It makes 2 Throw projectiles that seek out different targets. If that would allow Radius Evo Incinerate to get two Fire Explosions that would be pretty cool, and also be the only MP Kit with that version of Throw. It would essentially be the Biotic counterpart to Overload, in that sense. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 20:24:40 GMT
He shouldn't have existed. What we needed was a Salarian sentinel with Tech armor, Incinerate, and Throw. Yes, I'm salty. In my recent adventures trying to make an onhost SalSent, I've noticed that there are 2 different versions of Throw. There is a version that I don't think any MP kit has, which is a "Double Throw" split Evolution at Rank 6. It makes 2 Throw projectiles that seek out different targets. If that would allow Radius Evo Incinerate to get two Fire Explosions that would be pretty cool, and also be the only MP Kit with that version of Throw. It would essentially be the Biotic counterpart to Overload, in that sense. That throw is in single player. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 20:24:55 GMT
Like... in a game like mass effect 3 multiplayer which is kinda hard isnt doing more damage beneficial for like everyone??? You're making the cardinal error of thinking about it as a team game. To an elite player, it is a contest to see how much he can outscore all the other players by. By doing lots of damage and killing things, Snap Freeze deprives the elite player of points that he needed, and he ends up having to waste missiles (that he wanted to use for A-bomb team kills) to nuke wave 11 to make up the difference.
Eh... I just have fun and do silly things guess I cant understand playing computer games for any other reason
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Post by Kenny Bania on Sept 18, 2016 20:24:56 GMT
He shouldn't have existed. What we needed was a Salarian sentinel with Tech armor, Incinerate, and Throw. Yes, I'm salty. In my recent adventures trying to make an onhost SalSent, I've noticed that there are 2 different versions of Throw. There is a version that I don't think any MP kit has, which is a "Double Throw" split Evolution at Rank 6. It makes 2 Throw projectiles that seek out different targets. If that would allow Radius Evo Incinerate to get two Fire Explosions that would be pretty cool, and also be the only MP Kit with that version of Throw. It would essentially be the Biotic counterpart to Overload, in that sense. I fucks with that. |
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Post by Deerber on Sept 18, 2016 20:25:50 GMT
Agree. He shouldn't have snap cheese, because the power shouldn't exist in the first place. I remember that he days when I was a noob and he was one of the first kit I could play on gold and more than survive. Spam snap cheese all day and thought my teammates liked me for doing well. Eh, we've all been there, I remember that too. I'm glad they're over tho XD Yeah well, it's not *that* bad, but it's still bad. I mean pyros aren't on Geth-fugging-Primes cheat levels, but they're still pretty obnoxious. Again. If we could play a game with the bugs fixed (no double rockets, no Hunter GPS stagger while frozen/in singularity/in stasis/while staggered/while pulled and flying in the air, no Pyro flame extending 2x if you dodge backwards, no Prime shots threading every needle trough all gaps and corners imaginable (and unimaginable) and no turrets going trough walls and no MOTHERFUCKING Prime stagger drones - I think the Geth would be fine and even quite pleasant to fight against. A man can dream  Aye. But I think a bunch of them, regarding Primes especially, are... Working as intended >_> Having flamer would be fun... Like snap freeze and flamer... it would be like opposites but comparable powers And erm would snap freeze detonate flamer for explosions??? (not sure) Yeah, but it'd detonate on yourself. Having flamer would be fun... Like snap freeze and flamer... it would be like opposites but comparable powers And erm would snap freeze detonate flamer for explosions??? (not sure)  Lmao! As soon as I read the words "flamer and snap freeze" I was holding my breath to see your answer, and you didn't disappoint! ^ Earth DLC was the most awesome DLC of them all. All characters were mostly unique, powerful and fun. And while I was disappointed on how the Shadow turned out, I can still say that she can be fun. Yup. And if we could experience things without bugs/glitches, I bet she'd be even funnier Keep talking this way and you'll make a crapload of elitist enemies. They will make fun of you and hurt your e-boobs. But cryo explosions are fun... and isnt that kinda the point of the combat??? to make explosions??? (on a power based character at least)... and with incinerate you can already make explosions with overload youd just have more It would be super powerful for sure but were speaking like theoretically here like... it doesnt exist... so erm... yeah... its just a bit of fun and that WOULD be fun??? *will be quiet so doesnt make elitist enemies* The point of the combat is to kill the enemies, no the ears of your teammates  His (and the EdiBots) Snap Freeze primes everything trough shields/barriers/trough walls and can be detonated by nearly anything. It's a little too easy, too simple, too powerful. And while EdiBot can't detonate her own Snap Freeze, the Paladin can. And the Cryo explosions are bugged and do 2x damage (or so I think)
Ohhhhhh now I kinda understand why people dont like it
I had no idea about the wall thing... actually... I was kinda surprised that things were frozen when I used it before and I was like huh now did I reach them??? now it makes sense
But 2x damage = better surely???
Like... in a game like mass effect 3 multiplayer which is kinda hard isnt doing more damage beneficial for like everyone???
Mmmm... I think I understand the problem here!
Like... in a game like mass effect 3 multiplayer which is kinda hard isnt doing more damage beneficial for like everyone??? You're making the cardinal error of thinking about it as a team game. To an elite player, it is a contest to see how much he can outscore all the other players by. By doing lots of damage and killing things, Snap Freeze deprives the elite player of points that he needed, and he ends up having to waste missiles (that he wanted to use for A-bomb team kills) to nuke wave 11 to make up the difference. It's not necessarily like that at all. One doesn't need to be FTL to dislike overpowered stuff. Especially the kind that makes those silly glass sounding explosions every half a second a normal thing... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 20:27:30 GMT
Ohhhhhh now I kinda understand why people dont like it
I had no idea about the wall thing... actually... I was kinda surprised that things were frozen when I used it before and I was like huh now did I reach them??? now it makes sense
But 2x damage = better surely???
Like... in a game like mass effect 3 multiplayer which is kinda hard isnt doing more damage beneficial for like everyone???
Look, a Platinum game can be done in less than 7 minutes by using 36 rockets right into spawns. Is it fun? The first couple of times - maybe. Then it just get's old. Big damage is great when it's balanced with negatives.
Well... no I guess that wouldnt be fun but thats kinda taking things to the extreme and kinda cheating I guess but snap freeze is just a power (it might be good but like... it cant kill enemies in 1 hit... but I can kill enemies faster with a widow (when my infiltrators arent like level 2 that is)) but like... yeah... its just playing the game.. not cheating at it???
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Post by Deerber on Sept 18, 2016 20:28:22 GMT
^ Earth DLC was the most awesome DLC of them all. All characters were mostly unique, powerful and fun. And while I was disappointed on how the Shadow turned out, I can still say that she can be fun. Fury feels like a bastard child of the huntress and valkyrie. EXCUSE ME?!? If anything, the Fury's the grandma of both of those. She's been there way before any of those biatches was even a thing! Don't touch mah Fury! |
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Post by mordokai on Sept 18, 2016 20:31:15 GMT
Fury feels like a bastard child of the huntress and valkyrie. EXCUSE ME?!? If anything, the Fury's the grandma of both of those. She's been there way before any of those biatches was even a thing! Don't touch mah Fury! Mah man, I wouldnt touch her with eleven feet steel pole... just to be on the safe side |
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Post by ashevajak on Sept 18, 2016 20:34:23 GMT
In my recent adventures trying to make an onhost SalSent, I've noticed that there are 2 different versions of Throw. There is a version that I don't think any MP kit has, which is a "Double Throw" split Evolution at Rank 6. It makes 2 Throw projectiles that seek out different targets. If that would allow Radius Evo Incinerate to get two Fire Explosions that would be pretty cool, and also be the only MP Kit with that version of Throw. It would essentially be the Biotic counterpart to Overload, in that sense. That throw is in single player. SP Adept was so amazingly dirty. Like, almost "Infiltrator with Marksman" levels of power. Area Reave > Double Throw > Warp > Cluster nades = everything dead. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 20:35:45 GMT
But cryo explosions are fun... and isnt that kinda the point of the combat??? to make explosions??? (on a power based character at least)... and with incinerate you can already make explosions with overload youd just have more It would be super powerful for sure but were speaking like theoretically here like... it doesnt exist... so erm... yeah... its just a bit of fun and that WOULD be fun??? *will be quiet so doesnt make elitist enemies* The point of the combat is to kill the enemies, no the ears of your teammates
Ohhhhhh now I kinda understand why people dont like it
I had no idea about the wall thing... actually... I was kinda surprised that things were frozen when I used it before and I was like huh now did I reach them??? now it makes sense
But 2x damage = better surely???
Like... in a game like mass effect 3 multiplayer which is kinda hard isnt doing more damage beneficial for like everyone???
Mmmm... I think I understand the problem here!
I like the sound of glass shattering... its rewarding... like... satisfying... given a chance I always choose a snap freeze and chain overload combination if were doing like... erm... themed games??? for example like all batarian or all krogan or whatever... I go for snap freeze and overload because its fun
Also its a hard game! Well for me it is anyway... but I do suck at computer games... like... I die constantly in every game ever even on the easiest difficulty but yeah... its kinda a hard game... I can play silver mostly fine and I occasionally kinda... latch on to a gold game with some bsners because they make it easy but it is actually a hard game... I have to concentrate quite a lot on what im doing and trying to stop myself from doing silly things... and I have to remember all kinds of things ive been told like 'banshees cant kill you on a ramp' and 'armor piercing ammunition doesnt work with the adas anti synthetic rifle'... all of those things to think about while im trying to kill things and trying to stay alive
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Sept 18, 2016 20:37:01 GMT
^ Earth DLC was the most awesome DLC of them all. All characters were mostly unique, powerful and fun. And while I was disappointed on how the Shadow turned out, I can still say that she can be fun. I don't know about that... while I agree with you that most of the characters(I really don't like Fury) are fun, I'd hardly call them unique. Destroyer is a reflavored vanilla Hsol. Demolisher is a QME/QMI wannabe without the combo potential of the first and with no cloak of the second. Fury feels like a bastard child of the huntress and valkyrie. Paladin is a mix of salengie and AIU, with much bigger combo potential and much more cheese applied to him. Shadow and Slayer are the only really unique ones and even with them, their slashes are kinda negated because they suck from optimization PoW. Yes, they are all fun and powerful, but I'd be hard pressed to call them unique. When they came out they were unique. So Fury is the original and Valkyrie/Huntress are the bastards Destroyer had Multi Frags and Unique missile launcher Demo girl was the first with Homing nades Paladin was the first with snap freeze. |
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Fury feels like a bastard child of the huntress and valkyrie. EXCUSE ME?!? If anything, the Fury's the grandma of both of those. She's been there way before any of those biatches was even a thing! Don't touch mah Fury! Popcorns please. :-) |
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Sept 18, 2016 20:39:37 GMT
Look, a Platinum game can be done in less than 7 minutes by using 36 rockets right into spawns. Is it fun? The first couple of times - maybe. Then it just get's old. Big damage is great when it's balanced with negatives.
Well... no I guess that wouldnt be fun but thats kinda taking things to the extreme and kinda cheating I guess but snap freeze is just a power (it might be good but like... it cant kill enemies in 1 hit... but I can kill enemies faster with a widow (when my infiltrators arent like level 2 that is)) but like... yeah... its just playing the game.. not cheating at it???
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Post by Dovahkiin N7 on Sept 18, 2016 20:40:50 GMT
EXCUSE ME?!? If anything, the Fury's the grandma of both of those. She's been there way before any of those biatches was even a thing! Don't touch mah Fury! Popcorns please. :-) I am on Binary Helix's side on this. Fury may outscore these 2 on small maps, but the variety these two blue ladies bring! Unmatched!!! I mean Huntress is MOST effective with the Claymore. Deebo.. How could you? Or the melee blue ladies. Stupid humans are no match. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 20:44:24 GMT
Well... no I guess that wouldnt be fun but thats kinda taking things to the extreme and kinda cheating I guess but snap freeze is just a power (it might be good but like... it cant kill enemies in 1 hit... but I can kill enemies faster with a widow (when my infiltrators arent like level 2 that is)) but like... yeah... its just playing the game.. not cheating at it???
Incendiary glitch is also - "just playing the game" where you can take out an Atlas in like 2 seconds from full shields to dead. Doesn't mean it's fair or fun.
Thats something to do with incendiary ammo and the reegar right???
Because I get that I only have the reegar III but dude it doesnt make that much of a difference... by the time an atlas is down to its armor youve probably run out of ammo...
Im not kinda defending glitching here... im someone who refuses to reload cancel (even though ive been shown how to) because I dont think its fair... but I honestly dont think snap freeze is so great to cause this kind of hate... same with the reegar... I really dont like it... it sucks... I score higher with the crusader
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Post by docsteely on Sept 18, 2016 20:46:26 GMT
EXCUSE ME?!? If anything, the Fury's the grandma of both of those. She's been there way before any of those biatches was even a thing! Don't touch mah Fury! Popcorns please. :-) Can I have some popcorn? Thx. |
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Post by docsteely on Sept 18, 2016 20:48:51 GMT
Incendiary glitch is also - "just playing the game" where you can take out an Atlas in like 2 seconds from full shields to dead. Doesn't mean it's fair or fun.
Thats something to do with incendiary ammo and the reegar right???
Because I get that I only have the reegar III but dude it doesnt make that much of a difference... by the time an atlas is down to its armor youve probably run out of ammo...
Im not kinda defending glitching here... im someone who refuses to reload cancel (even though ive been shown how to) because I dont think its fair... but I honestly dont think snap freeze is so great to cause this kind of hate... same with the reegar... I really dont like it... it sucks... I score higher with the crusader
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Sept 18, 2016 20:50:22 GMT
Incendiary glitch is also - "just playing the game" where you can take out an Atlas in like 2 seconds from full shields to dead. Doesn't mean it's fair or fun.
Thats something to do with incendiary ammo and the reegar right???
Because I get that I only have the reegar III but dude it doesnt make that much of a difference... by the time an atlas is down to its armor youve probably run out of ammo...
Im not kinda defending glitching here... im someone who refuses to reload cancel (even though ive been shown how to) because I dont think its fair... but I honestly dont think snap freeze is so great to cause this kind of hate... same with the reegar... I really dont like it... it sucks... I score higher with the crusader
It's not only the Reegar. Almost any fast firing weapon can be abused. But yes, Reegar is the biggest on the cheese block. |
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or a stasis shield or something... like a 25% chance to cause stasis for 3 seconds when you hit um a smaller enemy with the shield... as well as knocking them back so they get frozen in the air in a funny position of course 
