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Post by Zerfidius on Jul 17, 2017 16:33:17 GMT
Dropped into the my Gold paradox lobby and proceeded to play very very well. Loved seeing that.
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Post by rtrnofdmax on Jul 17, 2017 16:48:02 GMT
I think Gold is easy enough now that people should probably allow most pugs into the group. Even before 1.09, I recall a low level/rating infiltrator joined a gold match with us three more solid players and he kept up in the scoring quite well in the early rounds. He fell off in the objective waves, probably due to lack of experience, but it was a pleasant surprise.
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Post by gethadept on Jul 17, 2017 16:50:34 GMT
I think Gold is easy enough now that people should probably allow most pugs into the group. Even before 1.09, I recall a low level/rating infiltrator joined a gold match with us three more solid players and he kept up in the scoring quite well in the early rounds. He fell off in the objective waves, probably due to lack of experience, but it was a pleasant surprise. Yeah. Gold is officially two men game now. I only care about one other good player... which often fail to meet my expectation. :srs:
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Post by inert on Jul 17, 2017 16:51:18 GMT
Yeah, gold's easy enough to Level 1.
I just unlocked the Salarian Operator, and took him with a Scorpion X as a Level 1/1 and topscored on Gold. So it's easy even without any of the Veteran bonuses or Siphon/Bulwark, etc. Just weapon damage and some stunning powers and you're set.
Still - low Apex + low level doing well would be nice to see, even if an alt.
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Post by poultrymancer on Jul 17, 2017 17:54:59 GMT
This is why I refuse to kick on gold based on loadout/level/APEX; enough noobs have pleasantly surprised me to broadly give them all benefit of the doubt. And while I don't particularly like soloing or clutching multiple waves, (on gold) as long as 1-2 teammates are up ~60% of the match I can cruise through most games. Platinum is a different story.
Also, I'd like to see the playerbase expand, not contract. The more people can get comfortable playing gold, the longer life this MP will have. Last week when one of the dailies was gold waves, I deliberately put myself in noob-heavy lobbies over and over again (I left any with multiple APEX +5k players) for exactly that reason.
If they're obnoxious, I'll leave after a match, or kick if playing with friends, but not before.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 18:56:20 GMT
The only time I ever kick in the lobby is when one player won't ready up.
Waiting for others to ready up is not how I want to spend my time. It's totes cool when people change their kit and/or loadout to better suit the lobby specs, but it's bullshit to make 3 other people wait while you check your voicemail, take a potty break, or fetch snacks.
In one lobby with 3 readied up and waiting for the 4th, I actually saw that player's kit rank change. Apparently, s/he thought that making the rest of us wait for him/her to finish the shopping spree was a good use of our time.
Also, I've seen several low-apex, low rank/level players perform really well with what they brought into a match.
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Post by gethadept on Jul 17, 2017 19:17:36 GMT
The only time I ever kick in the lobby is when one player won't ready up. Waiting for others to ready up is not how I want to spend my time. It's totes cool when people change their kit and/or loadout to better suit the lobby specs, but it's bullshit to make 3 other people wait while you check your voicemail, take a potty break, or fetch snacks. In one lobby with 3 readied up and waiting for the 4th, I actually saw that player's kit rank change. Apparently, s/he thought that making the rest of us wait for him/her to finish the shopping spree was a good use of our time. Also, I've seen several low-apex, low rank/level players perform really well with what they brought into a match. Only time I kick someone is if someone is already receiving 2 votes and I can clearly see the reason behind votes... :amirite:
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Post by Zerfidius on Jul 17, 2017 19:50:44 GMT
Only time I kick someone is if someone is already receiving 2 votes and I can clearly see the reason behind votes... :amirite: Yeah, we all (including Apex4) had just kicked an Apex~200 PUG with an open mic in that same lobby. It made the fact we did not kick the newb even more amusing. And since I was the third vote, that meant the newb was ahead of the curve in the lobby as well. I would have just muted the loud pug but like you said: 2 votes gets a third.
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Post by areski on Jul 17, 2017 20:36:08 GMT
Noobs probably do better than any of the APEX 25K+ I've played with.
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Post by modusmoriendi on Jul 19, 2017 1:37:30 GMT
Now that I've improved my playing enough not to be totally helpless if alone, I'd much rather have a low level PUG who tries his/her best, than a 20k+ camper who doesn't contribute shit.
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Post by N7Mith on Jul 19, 2017 10:06:10 GMT
I'll kick if I feel someone is hurting our chances of success. On gold that's not really an issue anymore.
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Post by misguidedworm7 on Jul 19, 2017 11:38:29 GMT
I don't trust any pugs, I have had apex 20k players who should go back to bronze, and apex 50s that can perform well enough to take on platinum with.
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Post by poultrymancer on Jul 19, 2017 16:54:50 GMT
I'll kick if I feel someone is hurting our chances of success. On gold that's not really an issue anymore.Unless Tikki has a Supply Pack Transmitter.
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Post by N7Mith on Jul 19, 2017 17:11:09 GMT
I'll kick if I feel someone is hurting our chances of success. On gold that's not really an issue anymore.Unless Tikki has a Supply Pack Transmitter. Then I'll equip one too and it becomes a trollrace.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 20, 2017 13:00:54 GMT
Last night on Platinum I saw a guy enter a lobby as Apex 5 Level 1 Human Soldier with Avenger I and Katana I. He instantly readied up.
We kicked him.
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Post by paunchycyclops on Jul 20, 2017 14:00:53 GMT
Last night on Platinum I saw a guy enter a lobby as Apex 5 Level 1 Human Soldier with Avenger I and Katana I. He instantly readied up. We kicked him. Yeah, this thread is filled with people who got super lucky with pugs. And at least a couple of straight up liars.
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Post by Gya on Jul 20, 2017 14:05:17 GMT
Apex rating is not guarantee of quality though. I imagine when I drop into a PuG lobby they assume my 15k Apex means I at least have a vague idea of how not to die repeatedly. Hah. Joke's on them.
That said, bringing an avenger or katana into platinum unironically should result in an auto-ban.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 20, 2017 14:26:19 GMT
inb4 someone solos Plat with a Katana
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Post by rale828 on Jul 21, 2017 10:56:03 GMT
In my region there is high lever Apex rating player 25k in the top 30 global player in ps4 who really isn't a good player or maybe he's too young a player to understand how to play this game. He usually last or third. I remember he got outscored by a 2k apex player using a below 20 human sentinel while he was using a level 20 krogan with siphon II and bulwark weapon III. Can't remember the exact weapon. And that krogan he used also died several times in a wave. He would just camp someplace and shoot When he dies he would revive himself without waiting for one of us to help hiim so by the 5th wave he may have exhausted his revives.
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Post by inert on Jul 21, 2017 13:17:34 GMT
When he dies he would revive himself without waiting for one of us to help hiim so by the 5th wave he may have exhausted his revives. That's a pro strat, fella. I outscore 20k+ apex players with various kits while grinding weapon challenges all the time. Likewise, I have been outscored by lower level apex players with various kits as well. Just like the points in ME3MP, there is no score that shows skill. You just have to see people play to get an idea (although brand new players will likely not be able to contribute on Plat).
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